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That's my understanding, could be wrong though !
There is claiming in AMA Amateur
There is not in AMA Pro
Micky Boone was also known for attempting to claim, but never successfully
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I am fine with the claiming rule, especially in amateur competition. I think it keeps some costs down as people will be less willing to build works bikes if they can be claimed.
As for pro, I am on the fence. I'd like to see it in order to level the playing field some, same as amateur. At the same time, claiming in pro racing could hinder R&D.
Tripe's RC250 Found
YEAH, OK....
Don't suspension guys just adjust the clickers?
F. Claiming
1. All sanctioned motocross and youth meets are claiming
meets. The claiming price shall be 30% over
manufacturers suggested retail price using the Black Book
AMA Official Motorcycle Value guide, Kelly Blue Book or
NADA appraisal guide and include the complete
motorcycle or minicycle. Vintage and ATV class equipment
will be excluded from the claiming rule.
2. Any rider (claimant) may enter a claim for a motorcycle (or
minicycle) ridden in an event in which the claimant has
competed. A claim must be entered with the referee after
the meet has been completed, but no later than 30-
minutes afterward. The referee then notifies the owner of
the claimed motorcycle and may take possession of it.
3. Cash, certified check or bank draft must accompany a
claim. The owner of the claimed machine must
immediately deliver it intact, along with a clear title or bill of
sale.
4. If more than one claim is received for the same
motorcycle, the meet referee will hold a drawing to
determine the successful claimant.
5. If a rider whose motorcycle is claimed refuses to comply,
he must forfeit his trophy, is disqualified from the meet and
will be suspended for one year.
6. A rider may not enter a claim on his own equipment.
I can see how it would work in a 'stock' class if guys were over boring etc and doing some serious mod work (ie. cheating)...great deterrent.
didn't one of m alessi early hondas get claimed or was it the other way round.?
It's not about catching cheaters, it's about keep costs down and leveling the field.
If Multi-millionaire can afford to buy johnny the best of everything and build him a Heisser Tin-can, that's not fair to the rest. So the claim rule leaves that fear of losing a bike you spent mega dollars on in the back of your mind so you spend less.
There's been rumors that some PC riders don't race some bikes at AMA events, for fear of claiming.
True? I don't know
But possible
and that is it's point and use
Adam Chatfield claimed Mike Alessi's Supermini from his final mini sized class LL's race....some say it was revenge/payback from Ponca the week before more than anything
One thing to remember about the rule is that you claim the bike for 30% above suggested resale value. So that means that unless you have done that amount of modification to it you will end up ahead. Lets take a 2009 CRF450 for example. KBB lists the value as $6225. So for somebody to claim the bike they would have to put up $8092. This allows someone to do about $1870 of performance modifications before they risk losing money by getting their bike claimed.
And to answer your question about what if you don't want to sell the bike, that is simple... Don't sell it. See flarider's post section 5.
This rule is not meant to deter against cheating. There are separate rules for that. For example if you think a competitor is running an overbored bike you may inform the referee that you would like that inspected. You then pay a fee that covers the cost of a teardown and that competitors' bike is inspected.
I remember reading a claiming rule (not sure if it pertained to motocross or other racing) that said if you claimed a competitors vehicle you would then have to use it in the next event... Does this apply to motocross or am I mixing stuff up and also if it does apply, can the original owner then reclaim his bike?
Pit Row
It is not looked at very well from racers parents.
See rule 4.
My guess is that you would refer to rule #5.
5. If a rider whose motorcycle is claimed refuses to comply, he must forfeit his trophy, is disqualified from the meet and will be suspended for one year.
Ultimately, if you choose to race an AMA race, you better be ready to follow the rules. It's up to yourself to be ready to comply....
If you haven't already read it, check out Part 2 (You'll like Part 1 too) of Terry Good's story on the 1976 125cc Nationals. Probably the best story about Mickey Boone trying to claim Hannah's H2o bike. Pretty dramatic and a fun read.
http://www.mxworksbike.com/1976_125_Nationals_part_2a.htm
Enjoy!
Todd
You receive the claim money, so you go home, pay off the bike and send the title
But you MUST surrender the bike that day or risk losing the trophy, title and license for one year.
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