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Johnny Ringo 1/1/2022 10:09am
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
This. Dungey was every bit as fast as RV, then he switched to KTM and the bike was no where near it needed to be to...
This. Dungey was every bit as fast as RV, then he switched to KTM and the bike was no where near it needed to be to beat RV.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
He had one win in 2011 SX. When it came to head to head racing, RV had Dunge’s number. The record books back this up.
UpTiTe wrote:
I think it was partially bikes. I would’ve loved to see a 2015 Dungey in 2013-14.
I think a 2015 Dunge, 2014 RV, 2007 Stew, 2012 Chad for 17 rounds would have been epic
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motomike137 wrote:
These folks that think Dungey was a tortoise are delusional. Same with Webb. RV crashed trying to ride fast enough to beat Dungey.
Some people don’t realize that when you’re that smooth you look slower than you actually are
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Suicidal_Tendencies 1/1/2022 11:46am
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UpTiTe wrote:
I know they were worried about RV going into St Luis. O’mara told him that day that he better be willing to hang it out there...
I know they were worried about RV going into St Luis. O’mara told him that day that he better be willing to hang it out there to prove a point that night.


I think they were similar in speed until RVs chassis changes and Dungey getting on the first gen KTM.
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
This. Dungey was every bit as fast as RV, then he switched to KTM and the bike was no where near it needed to be to...
This. Dungey was every bit as fast as RV, then he switched to KTM and the bike was no where near it needed to be to beat RV.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
He had one win in 2011 SX. When it came to head to head racing, RV had Dunge’s number. The record books back this up.
In supercross, probably. Bunt in 2010 Dungey was leading the series when RV crashed out. Outdoors, Dungey was phenomenal in the 2010 outdoors series, and backed it up on 2011 showing that he had the speed to win. Any objective take on 2011 would say that if not for the gas mishap in Texas, Dungey likely would have won the title. Even RV admitted that.


Then Dungey switched to the KTM, which at that point, was well behind the Kawi. I think 2015 and 2016 was every bit as fast as anyone.

But back to Adam...can't wait to see how he does in 2022.
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Dutch348 1/1/2022 6:52pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
What series did Dungey win were the faster guy was out?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Every series that RV missed, IMO
UpTiTe wrote:
He had the points lead, and the most wins when RV crashed out trying to beat him in 2010, so throw that one out. He was...
He had the points lead, and the most wins when RV crashed out trying to beat him in 2010, so throw that one out.

He was the fastest in the 2011 outdoors when won the most races and motos, but a fuel pump and electrical issues, gifted that one to RV. So I guess it went both ways.

You know RV won the 450 sx title four years in a row against Dungey right? Maybe pump the brakes a bit bro lol
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UpTiTe 1/1/2022 7:03pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Every series that RV missed, IMO
UpTiTe wrote:
He had the points lead, and the most wins when RV crashed out trying to beat him in 2010, so throw that one out. He was...
He had the points lead, and the most wins when RV crashed out trying to beat him in 2010, so throw that one out.

He was the fastest in the 2011 outdoors when won the most races and motos, but a fuel pump and electrical issues, gifted that one to RV. So I guess it went both ways.

Dutch348 wrote:
You know RV won the 450 sx title four years in a row against Dungey right? Maybe pump the brakes a bit bro lol
Maybe read all my post. I said RV was faster at that time, but he had everyone else’s number
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toomanykaws 1/1/2022 7:07pm
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8tensolutions wrote:
That's the same as saying that about Reed when Stew wadded up. It's the same so I got it right bro. The fastest guy doesn't always...
That's the same as saying that about Reed when Stew wadded up. It's the same so I got it right bro. The fastest guy doesn't always win.
DonM wrote:
But the best guy does…
motomike137 wrote:
These folks that think Dungey was a tortoise are delusional. Same with Webb. RV crashed trying to ride fast enough to beat Dungey.
Thought RV crashed at St Louis cause the stadium was down to plywood. Other riders who were in the same race confirmed how thin the dirt was in many spots. Regardless. Series would been exciting down to the finals
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UpTiTe 1/1/2022 7:29pm
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DonM wrote:
But the best guy does…
motomike137 wrote:
These folks that think Dungey was a tortoise are delusional. Same with Webb. RV crashed trying to ride fast enough to beat Dungey.
toomanykaws wrote:
Thought RV crashed at St Louis cause the stadium was down to plywood. Other riders who were in the same race confirmed how thin the dirt...
Thought RV crashed at St Louis cause the stadium was down to plywood. Other riders who were in the same race confirmed how thin the dirt was in many spots. Regardless. Series would been exciting down to the finals
He crashed because he hit the rut to the approach wrong. He was pushing it to stay in front.
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toomanykaws 1/1/2022 8:21pm
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motomike137 wrote:
These folks that think Dungey was a tortoise are delusional. Same with Webb. RV crashed trying to ride fast enough to beat Dungey.
toomanykaws wrote:
Thought RV crashed at St Louis cause the stadium was down to plywood. Other riders who were in the same race confirmed how thin the dirt...
Thought RV crashed at St Louis cause the stadium was down to plywood. Other riders who were in the same race confirmed how thin the dirt was in many spots. Regardless. Series would been exciting down to the finals
UpTiTe wrote:
He crashed because he hit the rut to the approach wrong. He was pushing it to stay in front.
RV said he spun on the wood and didn’t get the drive to make the jump cleanly.
madmaxperformance 1/1/2022 10:14pm
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toomanykaws wrote:
Thought RV crashed at St Louis cause the stadium was down to plywood. Other riders who were in the same race confirmed how thin the dirt...
Thought RV crashed at St Louis cause the stadium was down to plywood. Other riders who were in the same race confirmed how thin the dirt was in many spots. Regardless. Series would been exciting down to the finals
UpTiTe wrote:
He crashed because he hit the rut to the approach wrong. He was pushing it to stay in front.
toomanykaws wrote:
RV said he spun on the wood and didn’t get the drive to make the jump cleanly.
Trying too hard to stay ahead of Dungey. Thanks for making our point. 😉👍
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Boggins 1/1/2022 10:18pm
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Hope AC is healthy.
Very doubtful JA can keep the pace for an entire 20 min moto....
Dude has yet to pass someone w/o taking paint off the other riders bike.
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KennyT 1/2/2022 12:03am
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It would not surprise me to see AC win 6-7 rounds and take the title. As far as talent goes he could have a breakout year and dominate. I’m hoping the crashing will stop one of these days, once it does he will be hard to beat
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motomike137 1/2/2022 5:52am
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Also Dunge only won 6 moto’s to RV’s 9 in 2011. (He did edge him with 4 OA’s to RV’s 3.) Everyone forgets RV’s bike issue...
Also Dunge only won 6 moto’s to RV’s 9 in 2011. (He did edge him with 4 OA’s to RV’s 3.)

Everyone forgets RV’s bike issue at Red Bud too.
I don't remember RV's bike issue at Red Bud? I remember a big crash where his muffler was half hanging off bike and he salvaged a decent moto out of it. I do remember RD's bike issue at Red Bud and Southwick and didn't his bike quit somewhere else from fuel boiling? But back to AC lol. I think Adam might just get a 450 title at some point when the current big three hang up their boots. For now he just can't seem to stay off the ground enough to ever make it happen.
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motomike137 1/2/2022 5:54am
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motomike137 wrote:
These folks that think Dungey was a tortoise are delusional. Same with Webb. RV crashed trying to ride fast enough to beat Dungey.
Spudnut wrote:
Some people don’t realize that when you’re that smooth you look slower than you actually are
JMB and DB Wink
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Adam leading a slow old fat vet rider around the turn track in the rain last week.
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ktm 125 1/2/2022 3:15pm
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dungey was very fast with suzuki. not as fast as rv but very very close
then he switched to ktm and he had a suspension failure even b4 start of the race, the bike was like a chopper with rear shock completely flat. ktm trying to adjust from pds to linkage/airforks etc at that time and also tried the 350 with alessi and ac222, in short experimenting
so i think dungey is better than most of us remember him but still a tiny bit slower than rv, like the time that rv had to win in mx so he manage to pass him i think 2 corners b4 finish... Also dungey for me took a blow when a rookie ken roczen join his team in 2014 and manage to win the mx championship over dungey in a fair battle with no dnfs in each side. ofcourse maybe roczen could have won rv too in 2014 mx but well never know
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Gordon Liddy 1/2/2022 3:17pm
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KennyT wrote:
It would not surprise me to see AC win 6-7 rounds and take the title. As far as talent goes he could have a breakout year...
It would not surprise me to see AC win 6-7 rounds and take the title. As far as talent goes he could have a breakout year and dominate. I’m hoping the crashing will stop one of these days, once it does he will be hard to beat
No way AC wins 6-7 rounds.
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ktm 125 wrote:
i dont get why people are hyped with jason anderson. i mean hes a great guy, no1 guy to hang out for a beer judging from...
i dont get why people are hyped with jason anderson. i mean hes a great guy, no1 guy to hang out for a beer judging from his vids but that doesnt make him title contender, hes always been half a step below top guys.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
He is a 450 Supercross Champion…
Means nothing. Hasn't been close to a title contender since then. Don't care about how someone raced 4 years ago in regards to predicting their future performance. 4 years in SX/MX is like a decade in most other sports
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tomlopez 1/2/2022 4:00pm
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8tensolutions wrote:
That's the same as saying that about Reed when Stew wadded up. It's the same so I got it right bro. The fastest guy doesn't always...
That's the same as saying that about Reed when Stew wadded up. It's the same so I got it right bro. The fastest guy doesn't always win.
DonM wrote:
But the best guy does…
motomike137 wrote:
These folks that think Dungey was a tortoise are delusional. Same with Webb. RV crashed trying to ride fast enough to beat Dungey.
I like Dungey and he was a great but that is not the way RV vs RD actually went and you know that. From 2011-2014, RV was the class of the field when healthy and everybody knew it. Dungey would be the one trying to keep up with him, but half the time he couldn't so he would back off. RD was very close to RV for all of those years and beats him in consistency for sure, but RV was faster than him 90% of the time. If we want to make the narrative that guys like RV crashed out "trying to ride as fast as RD", then we also should stop with the whole "Stew was the best SX rider ever", because by the logic applied to Villopoto vs Dungey, Stewart wasn't actually better than Carmichael, he simply crashed trying to ride his pace. (We all know this isn't true. Also, this is talking about SX not MX. Carmichael was definitely the better MX racer)
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1911 1/2/2022 4:33pm
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KennyT wrote:
It would not surprise me to see AC win 6-7 rounds and take the title. As far as talent goes he could have a breakout year...
It would not surprise me to see AC win 6-7 rounds and take the title. As far as talent goes he could have a breakout year and dominate. I’m hoping the crashing will stop one of these days, once it does he will be hard to beat
Gordon Liddy wrote:
No way AC wins 6-7 rounds.
I hope he can remain health for 6-7 rounds. I would like to see him get some wins.
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CPR 1/2/2022 5:26pm
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The RV vs Dunge arguments always make me laugh and can go back and forth forever because there’s no correct answer, only opinion.

2011 Outdoors always comes up. In 2011 Reed was faster than both before the chadapult, but he crashed spectacularly and his season went off the rails, so he wasn’t the best that year, but was he indeed the fastest? Dungey was looking good also and could have easily taken it out, but had his own issues and the great to watch RV won the title. That’s how racing goes.
However, does that mean RV was the fastest that year??? Maybe, but not necessarily. You can’t change history though, the fact is RV won the title, the rest is bench racing.

Throughout their careers on individual days RV was the best, on different days Dunge was the best. RV had more of those days. Both were amazing, both had phenomenal speed. To say Dungey was rarely the fastest is ridiculous and ignores actual facts like lap times and results. He just didn’t look as fast as RV due to his more precise style. It’s impossible for Dungey to have been competitive with RV without being exceptionally fast.

Cheers to them both and their amazing talent, now who’s going to be the fastest this year?! And who’s going to be the best? Will it be the same person???
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Johnny Ringo 1/22/2022 4:21pm
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Just wanted to bump this..Ando fastest both practices. He’s back.
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Johnny Ringo 1/22/2022 4:21pm
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If anyone is going to do that it’s going to be El Hombre…
Bump
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Johnny Ringo 1/22/2022 9:40pm
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If anyone is going to do that it’s going to be El Hombre…
Bump AGAIN!!
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RalphS 1/22/2022 10:07pm
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Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
...is going to show Tomac why leaving Kawasaki was a mistake!

Tongue

You sure know what you are saying
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Johnny Ringo 2/19/2022 8:08pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
If anyone is going to do that it’s going to be El Hombre…
Just felt like bumping this again. No reason..
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