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Edited Date/Time 5/8/2022 3:49pm
ok ok I know we have these “Deep Field” threads all the time..
However it rarely works out that we have a lot of different winners over the 17 rounds.

How many different winners do we have in ‘22

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Stewyeww 12/26/2021 12:14am
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How often is there more than 3 at the pointy end?
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blockhead17 12/26/2021 12:51am
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I got;
Barcia
Kenny
Coop
Eli
Possibly Marv and Dylan
Don’t think it will happen but wouldn’t be suprised if Sexton got one.
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FIREfish148 12/26/2021 1:33am
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Honestly I just want to see Dean Wilson get a w this year.
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Dee38n 12/26/2021 2:08am
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1st off...this field is stacked, stacked, stacked, has anyone mentioned just how stacked it is?
And what happens to stacked things?
They fall down...bummer
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blockhead17 wrote:
ok ok I know we have these “Deep Field” threads all the time.. However it rarely works out that we have a lot of different winners...
ok ok I know we have these “Deep Field” threads all the time..
However it rarely works out that we have a lot of different winners over the 17 rounds.
Edited: 05/08/2022

There's only been 1 season with more than 5 winners since the modern era started.

Most Winners in a Season (8)

1985: Johnny O'Mara, Broc Glover, Ron Lechien, Mark Barnett, Bob Hannah, Jeff Ward, Rick Johnson, David Bailey.

Seasons with 6+ Winners

7 in 1997: Greg Albertyn, Doug Henry, Jeff Emig, Damon Huffman, Jeremy McGrath, Ezra Lusk, Kevin Windham.

6 in 1979: Jim Weinert, Mike Bell, Bob Hannah, Steve Wise, Mark Barnett, Kent Howerton.

6 in 1980: Mike Bell, Kent Howerton, Chuck Sun, Rex Staten, Broc Glover, Mark Barnett.

6 in 1982: Donnie Hansen, Mark Barnett, Bob Hannah, Darrel Schultz, Mike Bell, Broc Glover.

6 in 1983: David Bailey, Bob Hannah, Mark Barnett, Mike Bell, Ron Lechien, Broc Glover.

6 in 1984: Johnny O'Mara, Jeff Ward, Rick Johnson, David Bailey, Bob Hannah, Ron Lechien.

6 in 1990: Damon Bradshaw, Jeff Stanton, Larry Ward, Jeff Ward, Jeff Matiasevich, Jean-Michel Bayle.

6 in 1991: Jeff Stanton, Jean-Michel Bayle, Damon Bradshaw, Mike LaRocco, Jeff Ward, Doug Dubach.

6 in 1998: Sebastien Tortelli, Ezra Lusk, Jeremy McGrath, Larry Ward, Kevin Windham, John Dowd.

Least Amount of Winners in a Season

1996: Jeremy McGrath, Jeff Emig

2001: Jeremy McGrath, Ricky Carmichael


MODERN ERA (450 CLASS/2006 TO PRESENT)

Most Winners in a Season (6)

2015: Ken Roczen, Eli Tomac, Trey Canard, Ryan Dungey, Chad Reed, Cole Seely.

Seasons with 5 Winners

2008: Chad Reed, James Stewart, Kevin Windham, Davi Millsaps, Josh Hill.

2010: James Stewart, Ryan Dungey, Ryan Villopoto, Davi Millsaps, Kevin Windham.

2011: Ryan Villopoto, James Stewart, Trey Canard, Chad Reed, Ryan Dungey.

2012: Ryan Villopoto, Ryan Dungey, Chad Reed, James Stewart, Andrew Short.

2013: Davi Millsaps, Justin Barcia, Ryan Villopoto, Ryan Dungey, James Stewart.

2014: Ken Roczen, Ryan Villopoto, Chad Reed, James Stewart, Ryan Dungey.

2017: Ken Roczen, Ryan Dungey, Eli Tomac, Marvin Musquin, Jason Anderson.

2019: Justin Barcia, Blake Baggett, Cooper Webb, Eli Tomac, Marvin Musquin.

2020: Justin Barcia, Ken Roczen, Eli Tomac, Cooper Webb, Zach Osborne

2021: Justin Barcia, Eli Tomac, Cooper Webb, Ken Roczen, Marvin Musquin

2022: Ken Roczen, Jason Anderson, Chase Sexton, Eli Tomac, Marvin Musquin

Least Amount of Winners in a Season

2006: James Stewart, Ricky Carmichael, Chad Reed.

2007: James Stewart, Ricky Carmichael, Chad Reed.
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crusty_xx 12/26/2021 3:51am
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I've got 5
Eli Webb Kenny should win most again
Dylan 1-2
Plus either AC Sexton or Barcia.
But then again there are like 5 more guys that wouldn't surprise me if they got one. Hopefully AP or Mookie can pull one off
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Mugeneco 12/26/2021 4:09am
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so that makes 1985 most stacked field ever ?
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I think this is AC's year to break out, most of the big players are on new bikes so this will be his best shot! Him and Kenny if one of them don't win the championship this season I don't think they ever will.
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jaun wrote:
I think this is AC's year to break out, most of the big players are on new bikes so this will be his best shot! Him...
I think this is AC's year to break out, most of the big players are on new bikes so this will be his best shot! Him and Kenny if one of them don't win the championship this season I don't think they ever will.
I've got high hopes for AC as well, but I think he has quite a few more chances.
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dontdrinkandpost 12/26/2021 6:17am
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FIREfish148 wrote:
Honestly I just want to see Dean Wilson get a w this year.
Everyone wants to see dean win, but he won’t.
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-MAVERICK- 12/26/2021 7:23am
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Mugeneco wrote:
so that makes 1985 most stacked field ever ?
I just know there's a combined 32 titles lining up at A1. 35 if you include Musquin's and Roczen's world titles.
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Alex814 12/26/2021 8:03am
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I'll have to go with 6 this year. Webb, Tomac, Roczen for multiple wins and then 3 others will grab a win between Barcia, Ferrandis, AC, Sexton, Musquin, Anderson.
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Mugeneco wrote:
so that makes 1985 most stacked field ever ?
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I just know there's a combined 32 titles lining up at A1. 35 if you include Musquin's and Roczen's world titles.
Winning titles is how people get 450 rides. It's been the same system for over 30 years. In fact in 85 they were also winning 500cc titles.
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RonSkj 12/26/2021 9:08am
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Right on time, every year.... "The deepest field ever"
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Alex814 wrote:
I'll have to go with 6 this year. Webb, Tomac, Roczen for multiple wins and then 3 others will grab a win between Barcia, Ferrandis, AC...
I'll have to go with 6 this year. Webb, Tomac, Roczen for multiple wins and then 3 others will grab a win between Barcia, Ferrandis, AC, Sexton, Musquin, Anderson.
I agree with this list but throw Mookie in there too. Could happen.

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RonSkj wrote:
Right on time, every year.... "The deepest field ever"
You've been around for a while; so, who are your "educated guesses" for likely winners?

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blockhead17 wrote:
ok ok I know we have these “Deep Field” threads all the time.. However it rarely works out that we have a lot of different winners...
ok ok I know we have these “Deep Field” threads all the time..
However it rarely works out that we have a lot of different winners over the 17 rounds.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Edited: 05/08/2022 There's only been 1 season with more than 5 winners since the modern era started. [u][b]Most Winners in a Season (8)[/b][/u] [b]1985:[/b] Johnny O'Mara...
Edited: 05/08/2022

There's only been 1 season with more than 5 winners since the modern era started.

Most Winners in a Season (8)

1985: Johnny O'Mara, Broc Glover, Ron Lechien, Mark Barnett, Bob Hannah, Jeff Ward, Rick Johnson, David Bailey.

Seasons with 6+ Winners

7 in 1997: Greg Albertyn, Doug Henry, Jeff Emig, Damon Huffman, Jeremy McGrath, Ezra Lusk, Kevin Windham.

6 in 1979: Jim Weinert, Mike Bell, Bob Hannah, Steve Wise, Mark Barnett, Kent Howerton.

6 in 1980: Mike Bell, Kent Howerton, Chuck Sun, Rex Staten, Broc Glover, Mark Barnett.

6 in 1982: Donnie Hansen, Mark Barnett, Bob Hannah, Darrel Schultz, Mike Bell, Broc Glover.

6 in 1983: David Bailey, Bob Hannah, Mark Barnett, Mike Bell, Ron Lechien, Broc Glover.

6 in 1984: Johnny O'Mara, Jeff Ward, Rick Johnson, David Bailey, Bob Hannah, Ron Lechien.

6 in 1990: Damon Bradshaw, Jeff Stanton, Larry Ward, Jeff Ward, Jeff Matiasevich, Jean-Michel Bayle.

6 in 1991: Jeff Stanton, Jean-Michel Bayle, Damon Bradshaw, Mike LaRocco, Jeff Ward, Doug Dubach.

6 in 1998: Sebastien Tortelli, Ezra Lusk, Jeremy McGrath, Larry Ward, Kevin Windham, John Dowd.

Least Amount of Winners in a Season

1996: Jeremy McGrath, Jeff Emig

2001: Jeremy McGrath, Ricky Carmichael


MODERN ERA (450 CLASS/2006 TO PRESENT)

Most Winners in a Season (6)

2015: Ken Roczen, Eli Tomac, Trey Canard, Ryan Dungey, Chad Reed, Cole Seely.

Seasons with 5 Winners

2008: Chad Reed, James Stewart, Kevin Windham, Davi Millsaps, Josh Hill.

2010: James Stewart, Ryan Dungey, Ryan Villopoto, Davi Millsaps, Kevin Windham.

2011: Ryan Villopoto, James Stewart, Trey Canard, Chad Reed, Ryan Dungey.

2012: Ryan Villopoto, Ryan Dungey, Chad Reed, James Stewart, Andrew Short.

2013: Davi Millsaps, Justin Barcia, Ryan Villopoto, Ryan Dungey, James Stewart.

2014: Ken Roczen, Ryan Villopoto, Chad Reed, James Stewart, Ryan Dungey.

2017: Ken Roczen, Ryan Dungey, Eli Tomac, Marvin Musquin, Jason Anderson.

2019: Justin Barcia, Blake Baggett, Cooper Webb, Eli Tomac, Marvin Musquin.

2020: Justin Barcia, Ken Roczen, Eli Tomac, Cooper Webb, Zach Osborne

2021: Justin Barcia, Eli Tomac, Cooper Webb, Ken Roczen, Marvin Musquin

2022: Ken Roczen, Jason Anderson, Chase Sexton, Eli Tomac, Marvin Musquin

Least Amount of Winners in a Season

2006: James Stewart, Ricky Carmichael, Chad Reed.

2007: James Stewart, Ricky Carmichael, Chad Reed.
Props to Barcia for winning his first 450 SX in 2013 and his last (so far) in 2021. He holds the first-last record for active riders and being competitive for so long and is quite a feat.
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crusty_xx 12/26/2021 11:09am
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Alex814 wrote:
I'll have to go with 6 this year. Webb, Tomac, Roczen for multiple wins and then 3 others will grab a win between Barcia, Ferrandis, AC...
I'll have to go with 6 this year. Webb, Tomac, Roczen for multiple wins and then 3 others will grab a win between Barcia, Ferrandis, AC, Sexton, Musquin, Anderson.
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I agree with this list but throw Mookie in there too. Could happen.

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Can't wait to see him pass 3 guys in a single whoop section
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Moto520 12/26/2021 3:21pm
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Sexton
Ken
Webb
Musquin (remember….he’s “flying at the test tracks”
Tomac
Dylan
AC
Barcia

Hopefully someone else will surprise us as well.
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Mavetism 12/26/2021 3:32pm
12/26/2021 3:32pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2021 3:34pm
I personally think the most interesting riders to watch will be both Marvin and Dylan. We know Webb, Kenny and Tomac will be there, but Marvin was also there before his knee injury a couple years ago. Dylan finally had his proper pre season prep (wrist injury last year) and he obviously comes in with a lot of confidence after an unreal outdoor season. I think these two are the only two guys who can go against Webb, Kenny and Tomac over a whole season.

Obviously on paper it's mindblowing to bet against AC, Sexton, Anderson, Barcia and more to win at least one of these but I'll go with 5 winners this season. Man the level will be unreal and I hope the field is not depleted 2 months in.

Kenny
Webb
Tomac
Dylan
Marv
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Hi Side 12/26/2021 3:37pm
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I say four (4)...Roczen, Webb, Sexton and Ferrandis.
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TeamGreen 12/26/2021 6:54pm
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Hi Side wrote:
I say four (4)...Roczen, Webb, Sexton and Ferrandis.
Damn!
No Barcia?
No El Hombé?
No Eli?
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LouisianaMotocross 12/26/2021 7:04pm
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I said over 5. Seems crazy but I just counted over 5 guys and didn’t see a way a few of them didn’t win one.
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Grinning 9 guys thinking someone will go undefeated.
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RonSkj 12/26/2021 8:06pm
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RonSkj wrote:
Right on time, every year.... "The deepest field ever"
TeamGreen wrote:
You've been around for a while; so, who are your "educated guesses" for likely winners?

Dam it, stood up in the first turn. I can't even disagree as it looks like about a 3rd of the field is capable of winning. But just saying.
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Mavetism 12/27/2021 5:10am
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Grinning 9 guys thinking someone will go undefeated.
They truly believe in Aray.
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mxtech1 12/27/2021 7:51am
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We talk about this every preseason.

Expected to win:
Webb
Roczen
Barcia
Musquin
Tomac
Anderson

Wildcards:
AC
Sexton
Ferrandis

By the time the season is done, there will be 4-6 winners, which puts the ‘22 season right in line with historical averages. This does not seem to change through the decades.

What we should be discussing, is how much faster the 5th thru 22nd place riders are these days. There is significantly more competition and talent in the field from first to last, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to produce a ton of different race winners.
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garagedog 12/27/2021 7:55am
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Deepest hype ever!
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Moto520 12/27/2021 8:03am
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Here's the thing with supercross......someone could get on a roll and win most of the races. There is often 1 guy that just has a leg up on the competition and emerges as the next guy. Could be Dylan. Could be Sexton. Could be Tomac.
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