Knee protection

Edited Date/Time 11/30/2021 12:05pm
First off, don’t go all Ryno on me with knee protection. I’d like to be able to wear something to keep my knees from getting damaged. I’ve read tons of arguments about knee braces doing more harm then good and then you hear people say they swear by them. Years ago I didn’t wear any knee protection, washed the front end in a corner and hit my knee cap on the top of the foot peg. So after that I’ve always wanted to wear something. I’ve been through two sets of the Thor Force XP knee guard and haven’t had any real issues other then a broke a plastic buckle on the first set and then after about an hour or so they really start to hurt my knee caps. I feel like I’m in between sizes with these. Fast forward to know and I just got a brand new set of Alpinestars Bionic 7 knee braces. I was super excited to try them out. First go round I ordered a size S according to their measurements. They were too tight. Effortless exchange from RMATVMC for the size M. While these fit my knee great they are too big at the thigh. Ugh. Thought I’d hop on the bike and see and these are way too wide & bulky. I really wanted these to work. Anyways what knee braces/guards do you guys wear & recommend? Again I’m not here to argue for them or against them just looking for what’s been comfortable and protective.


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I just jumped in and started wearing braces this past month after only using knee guards my whole life. Got the POD K4s and they're awesome. 2 practices in I stopped noticing I even had them on.

From everything I've read the PODS are among the least bulky/most narrow at the hinges. I don't notice any difference gripping the bike with them vs my Leatt knee guards. Again, took a couple practices and I had to readjust once... After that, forgot I was even wearing them.

It sounds to me like your measurements might be a bit different than most, so it may come down to trying a couple more brands before you find what works best for YOU. There's a lot of good knee braces out there.
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I wear mobius, zero issues. Great customer support. The Asterisk carbon cells look really really nice and I’ve been thinking about switching to those. Premium price but those will for sure be the lightest and least bulky of the off the shelf braces.
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Fox Titan Pro knee guards. Tried knee braces but not for me. I like the Fox.

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11/1/2021 12:40pm
SoCalMX70 wrote:
I just jumped in and started wearing braces this past month after only using knee guards my whole life. Got the POD K4s and they're awesome...
I just jumped in and started wearing braces this past month after only using knee guards my whole life. Got the POD K4s and they're awesome. 2 practices in I stopped noticing I even had them on.

From everything I've read the PODS are among the least bulky/most narrow at the hinges. I don't notice any difference gripping the bike with them vs my Leatt knee guards. Again, took a couple practices and I had to readjust once... After that, forgot I was even wearing them.

It sounds to me like your measurements might be a bit different than most, so it may come down to trying a couple more brands before you find what works best for YOU. There's a lot of good knee braces out there.
That was going to be my next brace to try. Thanks!
11/1/2021 12:42pm
I wear mobius, zero issues. Great customer support. The Asterisk carbon cells look really really nice and I’ve been thinking about switching to those. Premium price...
I wear mobius, zero issues. Great customer support. The Asterisk carbon cells look really really nice and I’ve been thinking about switching to those. Premium price but those will for sure be the lightest and least bulky of the off the shelf braces.
Mobius X8? Reviews sound very good on those
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Asterisk cell carbon are really compact
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11/1/2021 1:38pm
Been wearing pods for 8+ years. Had cti’s and asterisk. I like the pods the best but then again I shattered my tib plateau and my knee is not the normal shape a knee should be
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I wear mobius, zero issues. Great customer support. The Asterisk carbon cells look really really nice and I’ve been thinking about switching to those. Premium price...
I wear mobius, zero issues. Great customer support. The Asterisk carbon cells look really really nice and I’ve been thinking about switching to those. Premium price but those will for sure be the lightest and least bulky of the off the shelf braces.
Mobius X8? Reviews sound very good on those
X2 on the Mobius. Been running them since 2016. They are solid. If you’re not a knee brace guy they may take a few rides to get used to. That will be the case with any brace though. I think at the time I was coming off an ancient set of Asterisk Cells and thought the mobius were night and day better.
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This has been beaten like a dead horse. Try the tp199s (regular model). They’re much more comfortable than knee braces and provide great protection. I feel much more confident and in control wearing them vs. knee braces. The price is reasonable as well.
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So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved them standing on my bike. Then I sat down and they got me. I really wanted to keep ‘em but couldn’t deal with the pinching so I’ve been running the astars for a few years. Keep thinking about trying mobius again but unless they changed the design I’m sure they pinch my legs.
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11/1/2021 6:50pm Edited Date/Time 11/1/2021 9:03pm
cwel11 wrote:
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved...
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved them standing on my bike. Then I sat down and they got me. I really wanted to keep ‘em but couldn’t deal with the pinching so I’ve been running the astars for a few years. Keep thinking about trying mobius again but unless they changed the design I’m sure they pinch my legs.
Intesresting - never experienced that on the X8s. Not sure what to say there other than maybe the newest versions don't do this?

I know this about Mobius X8s:
(1) They BARELY fit under my Fox Legion LT off-road pants, but better in Fox 360s
(2) I feel the X8s are great for crash protection
(3) X8s are hot, no 2 ways about it
(4) X8s stay place for me very well - no other brace has
(4) I like the X8s enough to alternate them with my Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones (also amazing)

I tried both the Pod K8 Carbons and K4s. I could never adjust out the knee "pinch" I was getting (fatter COVID-19 pendemic legs). Great design, just didn't fit my legs.

Final 2-cent comment:
The Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones are so much slimmer and more compact than the others that I think they are my current faves. Could wear alpine skiing, too.
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cwel11 wrote:
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved...
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved them standing on my bike. Then I sat down and they got me. I really wanted to keep ‘em but couldn’t deal with the pinching so I’ve been running the astars for a few years. Keep thinking about trying mobius again but unless they changed the design I’m sure they pinch my legs.
Can't say I've experienced that. The adjustable tether thing behind the theigh is really nice in my opinion. If I feel it's hugging my leg a bit too tight I can adjust it without taking my pants down and get it right where I need it. Maybe try some thicker knee sleeves/socks? The only issue I've had with the Mobius is with a brace getting stuck open a few times. But that was probably because I didn't put them on correctly and they were not tight enough on my leg.
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Interesting. Thanks for the responses. Maybe I’ll give them another shot in the future
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I am probably one of the few, but I am a CTI guy. I blew out my right knee yrs ago while wearing Asterisk braces. They had too much side to side give/movement for me. I had CTI customs made but never liked the fit. The CTI OTS (off the shelf) fits me well and I like how they are. I have tried on the others but none seemed to be comfortable for me to ride in while offering the stability/safety that I look for.
It's mostly about fit and preference to what you are looking for. Sucky part is most of us don't have the connections to be able to try them all without purchasing them. Without riding with them on, you really don't know.
Good luck!!!
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STREETS wrote:
I am probably one of the few, but I am a CTI guy. I blew out my right knee yrs ago while wearing Asterisk braces. They...
I am probably one of the few, but I am a CTI guy. I blew out my right knee yrs ago while wearing Asterisk braces. They had too much side to side give/movement for me. I had CTI customs made but never liked the fit. The CTI OTS (off the shelf) fits me well and I like how they are. I have tried on the others but none seemed to be comfortable for me to ride in while offering the stability/safety that I look for.
It's mostly about fit and preference to what you are looking for. Sucky part is most of us don't have the connections to be able to try them all without purchasing them. Without riding with them on, you really don't know.
Good luck!!!
The CTI OTS look really good. How is the durability on them? You really like them better than the custom fitted ones?
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cwel11 wrote:
Interesting. Thanks for the responses. Maybe I’ll give them another shot in the future
I wonder if Mobius will be coming out with a new brace any time soon. Something lighter and a little less bulky but same quality would be nice. And like I said if they could redo the patella gaurd so it doesn’t catch pants that would be a plus. Maybe ML512 would know
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Only buy what fits you the best and remember they all do what they are designed for. What fits and feels for your knees is what you want not what everybody else wears. Oh and customer service is good as well.
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EVS tp199 are great. They are very comfortable and I don't even notice them when I ride. They are the only knee guard I will ever buy
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Cannot recommend AStar Bionic from durability pov
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cwel11 wrote:
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved...
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved them standing on my bike. Then I sat down and they got me. I really wanted to keep ‘em but couldn’t deal with the pinching so I’ve been running the astars for a few years. Keep thinking about trying mobius again but unless they changed the design I’m sure they pinch my legs.
Rider 5280 wrote:
Intesresting - never experienced that on the X8s. Not sure what to say there other than maybe the newest versions don't do this? I know this...
Intesresting - never experienced that on the X8s. Not sure what to say there other than maybe the newest versions don't do this?

I know this about Mobius X8s:
(1) They BARELY fit under my Fox Legion LT off-road pants, but better in Fox 360s
(2) I feel the X8s are great for crash protection
(3) X8s are hot, no 2 ways about it
(4) X8s stay place for me very well - no other brace has
(4) I like the X8s enough to alternate them with my Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones (also amazing)

I tried both the Pod K8 Carbons and K4s. I could never adjust out the knee "pinch" I was getting (fatter COVID-19 pendemic legs). Great design, just didn't fit my legs.

Final 2-cent comment:
The Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones are so much slimmer and more compact than the others that I think they are my current faves. Could wear alpine skiing, too.
How does the Carbon Cell feel on the bike compared to the mobius? Easier to move legs/feet around? Easier to lift legs up in turns? I used to have a hard time riding on the balls of my feet but lately I’ve been getting better at it. I just feel that a slimmer/lighter brace would make riding even more fun. Just hard to spend $800 when my current braces are only a year old. Anyone looking for a clean set of Mobius braces size medium? LolWink
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I have Mobius, Pod K700, and CUstom CTi. I like the Mobius the best.
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Be sure to give the Leatt Dual Axis knee guards a try. I've tried braces and just didn't work for me. After looking around for just the right amount of protection and solid feel/comfort , these have been the best for me.

White is o sale right now at $79.99.
https://leatt.com/us/shop/moto/protection/knee-guards/knee-&-shin-guard…

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11/23/2021 10:16pm Edited Date/Time 11/23/2021 10:20pm
cwel11 wrote:
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved...
So just curiosity, you guys running mobius. How in the hell do they not pinch the back of your leg? I put em on and loved them standing on my bike. Then I sat down and they got me. I really wanted to keep ‘em but couldn’t deal with the pinching so I’ve been running the astars for a few years. Keep thinking about trying mobius again but unless they changed the design I’m sure they pinch my legs.
Rider 5280 wrote:
Intesresting - never experienced that on the X8s. Not sure what to say there other than maybe the newest versions don't do this? I know this...
Intesresting - never experienced that on the X8s. Not sure what to say there other than maybe the newest versions don't do this?

I know this about Mobius X8s:
(1) They BARELY fit under my Fox Legion LT off-road pants, but better in Fox 360s
(2) I feel the X8s are great for crash protection
(3) X8s are hot, no 2 ways about it
(4) X8s stay place for me very well - no other brace has
(4) I like the X8s enough to alternate them with my Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones (also amazing)

I tried both the Pod K8 Carbons and K4s. I could never adjust out the knee "pinch" I was getting (fatter COVID-19 pendemic legs). Great design, just didn't fit my legs.

Final 2-cent comment:
The Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones are so much slimmer and more compact than the others that I think they are my current faves. Could wear alpine skiing, too.
How does the Carbon Cell feel on the bike compared to the mobius? Easier to move legs/feet around? Easier to lift legs up in turns? I...
How does the Carbon Cell feel on the bike compared to the mobius? Easier to move legs/feet around? Easier to lift legs up in turns? I used to have a hard time riding on the balls of my feet but lately I’ve been getting better at it. I just feel that a slimmer/lighter brace would make riding even more fun. Just hard to spend $800 when my current braces are only a year old. Anyone looking for a clean set of Mobius braces size medium? LolWink
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different reasons, but I will say the "tank" build of the Mobius design gives me a better sense of impact protection for sure. So mentally, I'd say I equate "bulk" with safety currently. Right or wrong.

In fact, I've been wearing my Mobius braces more lately because I can more easily get them to stay put as well. My Asterisks ALWAYS ride down over the course of a ride. I'd say I've got some work to do there that I just haven't found time for. It seems a grippy outer sock surface might do the trick. TBD.

The above said, when I put the Asterisks on, I always have the "wow, these fit like a glove" feeling and they are so slim yet strong. Straight up, they are impressive that way. Additionally, I think I do feel "freer" on the bike now that you mention it. Just more loose and able to flow. Less heat generation, too. That aspect seems to help with the freer vibe.

Kind of a wishy-washy answer, as I think I am still trying to figure out which ones I personally prefer.

Does that ^^^ help? Your Mobius braces are legit, that's for sure.
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11/24/2021 10:08am
Rider 5280 wrote:
Intesresting - never experienced that on the X8s. Not sure what to say there other than maybe the newest versions don't do this? I know this...
Intesresting - never experienced that on the X8s. Not sure what to say there other than maybe the newest versions don't do this?

I know this about Mobius X8s:
(1) They BARELY fit under my Fox Legion LT off-road pants, but better in Fox 360s
(2) I feel the X8s are great for crash protection
(3) X8s are hot, no 2 ways about it
(4) X8s stay place for me very well - no other brace has
(4) I like the X8s enough to alternate them with my Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones (also amazing)

I tried both the Pod K8 Carbons and K4s. I could never adjust out the knee "pinch" I was getting (fatter COVID-19 pendemic legs). Great design, just didn't fit my legs.

Final 2-cent comment:
The Asterisk Carbon Cell Ones are so much slimmer and more compact than the others that I think they are my current faves. Could wear alpine skiing, too.
How does the Carbon Cell feel on the bike compared to the mobius? Easier to move legs/feet around? Easier to lift legs up in turns? I...
How does the Carbon Cell feel on the bike compared to the mobius? Easier to move legs/feet around? Easier to lift legs up in turns? I used to have a hard time riding on the balls of my feet but lately I’ve been getting better at it. I just feel that a slimmer/lighter brace would make riding even more fun. Just hard to spend $800 when my current braces are only a year old. Anyone looking for a clean set of Mobius braces size medium? LolWink
Rider 5280 wrote:
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different...
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different reasons, but I will say the "tank" build of the Mobius design gives me a better sense of impact protection for sure. So mentally, I'd say I equate "bulk" with safety currently. Right or wrong.

In fact, I've been wearing my Mobius braces more lately because I can more easily get them to stay put as well. My Asterisks ALWAYS ride down over the course of a ride. I'd say I've got some work to do there that I just haven't found time for. It seems a grippy outer sock surface might do the trick. TBD.

The above said, when I put the Asterisks on, I always have the "wow, these fit like a glove" feeling and they are so slim yet strong. Straight up, they are impressive that way. Additionally, I think I do feel "freer" on the bike now that you mention it. Just more loose and able to flow. Less heat generation, too. That aspect seems to help with the freer vibe.

Kind of a wishy-washy answer, as I think I am still trying to figure out which ones I personally prefer.

Does that ^^^ help? Your Mobius braces are legit, that's for sure.
Yes that was some good info thank you. Sounds like the Asterisks are good but maybe not night and day better than the Mobius. And you’re right the mobius do a great job of not sliding down the leg like the other braces I’ve tried. Guess I’ll just stick to the mobius for now.
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How does the Carbon Cell feel on the bike compared to the mobius? Easier to move legs/feet around? Easier to lift legs up in turns? I...
How does the Carbon Cell feel on the bike compared to the mobius? Easier to move legs/feet around? Easier to lift legs up in turns? I used to have a hard time riding on the balls of my feet but lately I’ve been getting better at it. I just feel that a slimmer/lighter brace would make riding even more fun. Just hard to spend $800 when my current braces are only a year old. Anyone looking for a clean set of Mobius braces size medium? LolWink
Rider 5280 wrote:
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different...
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different reasons, but I will say the "tank" build of the Mobius design gives me a better sense of impact protection for sure. So mentally, I'd say I equate "bulk" with safety currently. Right or wrong.

In fact, I've been wearing my Mobius braces more lately because I can more easily get them to stay put as well. My Asterisks ALWAYS ride down over the course of a ride. I'd say I've got some work to do there that I just haven't found time for. It seems a grippy outer sock surface might do the trick. TBD.

The above said, when I put the Asterisks on, I always have the "wow, these fit like a glove" feeling and they are so slim yet strong. Straight up, they are impressive that way. Additionally, I think I do feel "freer" on the bike now that you mention it. Just more loose and able to flow. Less heat generation, too. That aspect seems to help with the freer vibe.

Kind of a wishy-washy answer, as I think I am still trying to figure out which ones I personally prefer.

Does that ^^^ help? Your Mobius braces are legit, that's for sure.
Yes that was some good info thank you. Sounds like the Asterisks are good but maybe not night and day better than the Mobius. And you’re...
Yes that was some good info thank you. Sounds like the Asterisks are good but maybe not night and day better than the Mobius. And you’re right the mobius do a great job of not sliding down the leg like the other braces I’ve tried. Guess I’ll just stick to the mobius for now.
Per this conversation, I rode with my Asterisk Carbon Ones today at an MX track. it's been a while since I rode in the Asterisks, but you got me thinking.

Here's my ride report when deliberately comparing the 2:

(1) I went to town on making the Asterisk braces NOT slip. I did this by tightening the strap below the knee 1st and then the strap above the knee 2nd MUCH MUCH harder than I normally would just to see what would happen. The result was less slippage than I've ever experienced with this brace. Success! They did move some (my guess is 1-2 centimeters, max), but NOTHING like before. And it turns out the strap tightness didn't actually bother me like I thought it would. But if I tighten the upper and lower straps that tight, the whole braces just feels too tight.

(2) I absolutely do not feel as "impact protected" in these braces. The knee cups/guards are thin and just do not inspire confidence for me. Never have. Given the track I'm riding a lot lately has a lot of hard clay/"cement-ness" to it, I think this is actually weighing on my subconscious ... yeah, I'm a headcase.

(3) I would say I can move around in the Asterisks ~ 25% better. What the heck does 25% even mean? I look at it as able to move more freely, impart more body English on the bike at times as well just be more fluid in general. I noticed it most in corners today when I would let the engine lug and drive through (when I could be more relaxed), I felt more able to "dangle" and "dab" my foot more precisely. A downside is that I feel I don't "plow" through stuff as hard as I do with the Mobius braces - because the Mobius braces make me feel like a tank.

(4) I feel like the padding in the Mobius braces is just more protective and hygienic (doesn't absorb sweat).

(5) While the Asterisks are a lot thinner/less bulky, I still struggled to get my Fox Legion LT pants over them as well. Why the @#$! am I wearing Legions on an MX course? I REALLY REALLY like pockets. A pocket for my cell phone (to alter YZ450F ignition maps anywhere I choose to stop) and a pocket for my goggle wipe (which it turns out I use a lot). The pants also have vents ... and I open those babies up wide open most times. For another post another time, another time. Check 'em out here if you're curious:
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/riding-gear/fox-racing-legion-lt-pan…

Summary:
I am still up in the air about which knee braces I prefer. For me, I think it's close to a toss up - with Mobius potentially getting the nod in the end. TBD.
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Rider 5280 wrote:
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different...
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different reasons, but I will say the "tank" build of the Mobius design gives me a better sense of impact protection for sure. So mentally, I'd say I equate "bulk" with safety currently. Right or wrong.

In fact, I've been wearing my Mobius braces more lately because I can more easily get them to stay put as well. My Asterisks ALWAYS ride down over the course of a ride. I'd say I've got some work to do there that I just haven't found time for. It seems a grippy outer sock surface might do the trick. TBD.

The above said, when I put the Asterisks on, I always have the "wow, these fit like a glove" feeling and they are so slim yet strong. Straight up, they are impressive that way. Additionally, I think I do feel "freer" on the bike now that you mention it. Just more loose and able to flow. Less heat generation, too. That aspect seems to help with the freer vibe.

Kind of a wishy-washy answer, as I think I am still trying to figure out which ones I personally prefer.

Does that ^^^ help? Your Mobius braces are legit, that's for sure.
Yes that was some good info thank you. Sounds like the Asterisks are good but maybe not night and day better than the Mobius. And you’re...
Yes that was some good info thank you. Sounds like the Asterisks are good but maybe not night and day better than the Mobius. And you’re right the mobius do a great job of not sliding down the leg like the other braces I’ve tried. Guess I’ll just stick to the mobius for now.
Rider 5280 wrote:
Per this conversation, I rode with my Asterisk Carbon Ones today at an MX track. it's been a while since I rode in the Asterisks, but...
Per this conversation, I rode with my Asterisk Carbon Ones today at an MX track. it's been a while since I rode in the Asterisks, but you got me thinking.

Here's my ride report when deliberately comparing the 2:

(1) I went to town on making the Asterisk braces NOT slip. I did this by tightening the strap below the knee 1st and then the strap above the knee 2nd MUCH MUCH harder than I normally would just to see what would happen. The result was less slippage than I've ever experienced with this brace. Success! They did move some (my guess is 1-2 centimeters, max), but NOTHING like before. And it turns out the strap tightness didn't actually bother me like I thought it would. But if I tighten the upper and lower straps that tight, the whole braces just feels too tight.

(2) I absolutely do not feel as "impact protected" in these braces. The knee cups/guards are thin and just do not inspire confidence for me. Never have. Given the track I'm riding a lot lately has a lot of hard clay/"cement-ness" to it, I think this is actually weighing on my subconscious ... yeah, I'm a headcase.

(3) I would say I can move around in the Asterisks ~ 25% better. What the heck does 25% even mean? I look at it as able to move more freely, impart more body English on the bike at times as well just be more fluid in general. I noticed it most in corners today when I would let the engine lug and drive through (when I could be more relaxed), I felt more able to "dangle" and "dab" my foot more precisely. A downside is that I feel I don't "plow" through stuff as hard as I do with the Mobius braces - because the Mobius braces make me feel like a tank.

(4) I feel like the padding in the Mobius braces is just more protective and hygienic (doesn't absorb sweat).

(5) While the Asterisks are a lot thinner/less bulky, I still struggled to get my Fox Legion LT pants over them as well. Why the @#$! am I wearing Legions on an MX course? I REALLY REALLY like pockets. A pocket for my cell phone (to alter YZ450F ignition maps anywhere I choose to stop) and a pocket for my goggle wipe (which it turns out I use a lot). The pants also have vents ... and I open those babies up wide open most times. For another post another time, another time. Check 'em out here if you're curious:
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/riding-gear/fox-racing-legion-lt-pan…

Summary:
I am still up in the air about which knee braces I prefer. For me, I think it's close to a toss up - with Mobius potentially getting the nod in the end. TBD.
Glad you got to get out and moto yesterday. I’ve been down for a month due to eye surgery. I am counting down the minutes. That was a good on bike review. I agree that the mobius really are confidence inspiring as far as protection goes. They may not 100% save you from a rotational twist, but they almost act like a super knee pad with how much coverage they give you. Maybe I’m just so used to riding with them after six years that I didn’t think about feeling less protected with a less bulky brace. I haven’t tried the carbon cells on, but my only gripe is that the patella cup looks really cheap for an $800 brace. It would be cool if they copied CTI’s knee cup or something.
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11/29/2021 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 11/29/2021 9:14pm
Rider 5280 wrote:
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different...
Once riding I can't say I perceive THAT much of a difference between the Mobius X8s and the Asterisk Carbon Ones. I like each for different reasons, but I will say the "tank" build of the Mobius design gives me a better sense of impact protection for sure. So mentally, I'd say I equate "bulk" with safety currently. Right or wrong.

In fact, I've been wearing my Mobius braces more lately because I can more easily get them to stay put as well. My Asterisks ALWAYS ride down over the course of a ride. I'd say I've got some work to do there that I just haven't found time for. It seems a grippy outer sock surface might do the trick. TBD.

The above said, when I put the Asterisks on, I always have the "wow, these fit like a glove" feeling and they are so slim yet strong. Straight up, they are impressive that way. Additionally, I think I do feel "freer" on the bike now that you mention it. Just more loose and able to flow. Less heat generation, too. That aspect seems to help with the freer vibe.

Kind of a wishy-washy answer, as I think I am still trying to figure out which ones I personally prefer.

Does that ^^^ help? Your Mobius braces are legit, that's for sure.
Yes that was some good info thank you. Sounds like the Asterisks are good but maybe not night and day better than the Mobius. And you’re...
Yes that was some good info thank you. Sounds like the Asterisks are good but maybe not night and day better than the Mobius. And you’re right the mobius do a great job of not sliding down the leg like the other braces I’ve tried. Guess I’ll just stick to the mobius for now.
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Per this conversation, I rode with my Asterisk Carbon Ones today at an MX track. it's been a while since I rode in the Asterisks, but...
Per this conversation, I rode with my Asterisk Carbon Ones today at an MX track. it's been a while since I rode in the Asterisks, but you got me thinking.

Here's my ride report when deliberately comparing the 2:

(1) I went to town on making the Asterisk braces NOT slip. I did this by tightening the strap below the knee 1st and then the strap above the knee 2nd MUCH MUCH harder than I normally would just to see what would happen. The result was less slippage than I've ever experienced with this brace. Success! They did move some (my guess is 1-2 centimeters, max), but NOTHING like before. And it turns out the strap tightness didn't actually bother me like I thought it would. But if I tighten the upper and lower straps that tight, the whole braces just feels too tight.

(2) I absolutely do not feel as "impact protected" in these braces. The knee cups/guards are thin and just do not inspire confidence for me. Never have. Given the track I'm riding a lot lately has a lot of hard clay/"cement-ness" to it, I think this is actually weighing on my subconscious ... yeah, I'm a headcase.

(3) I would say I can move around in the Asterisks ~ 25% better. What the heck does 25% even mean? I look at it as able to move more freely, impart more body English on the bike at times as well just be more fluid in general. I noticed it most in corners today when I would let the engine lug and drive through (when I could be more relaxed), I felt more able to "dangle" and "dab" my foot more precisely. A downside is that I feel I don't "plow" through stuff as hard as I do with the Mobius braces - because the Mobius braces make me feel like a tank.

(4) I feel like the padding in the Mobius braces is just more protective and hygienic (doesn't absorb sweat).

(5) While the Asterisks are a lot thinner/less bulky, I still struggled to get my Fox Legion LT pants over them as well. Why the @#$! am I wearing Legions on an MX course? I REALLY REALLY like pockets. A pocket for my cell phone (to alter YZ450F ignition maps anywhere I choose to stop) and a pocket for my goggle wipe (which it turns out I use a lot). The pants also have vents ... and I open those babies up wide open most times. For another post another time, another time. Check 'em out here if you're curious:
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/riding-gear/fox-racing-legion-lt-pan…

Summary:
I am still up in the air about which knee braces I prefer. For me, I think it's close to a toss up - with Mobius potentially getting the nod in the end. TBD.
Colorado has been unseasonably warm, so I rode 3 times in the past 4 days. I can't recall ever being able to swing that actually, so I had to seize the moment.

At any rate, I continued testing my Mobius X8 knee braces back-to-back with the Astetisk Carbon Ones and my legs are ALWAYS more comfortable in the Mobius braces. I get random pinch points on the Aterisks, especially the tighter I make them to stop the slippage (which largely does work).

So I think I've decided my daily drivers are Mobius X8 knee braces. Easy and repeatable fitting, beefier impact construction (it seems), and I think I am starting to appreciate the less rigid (than carbon fiber) design approach where "some give" overall may help better distribute crash loads.

I think my next experiment will be to add an Asterisk boot tether to the Mobius X8 knee braces to get that crucial feature. More to come.

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11/30/2021 12:05pm
Rider 5280 wrote:
Colorado has been unseasonably warm, so I rode 3 times in the past 4 days. I can't recall ever being able to swing that actually, so...
Colorado has been unseasonably warm, so I rode 3 times in the past 4 days. I can't recall ever being able to swing that actually, so I had to seize the moment.

At any rate, I continued testing my Mobius X8 knee braces back-to-back with the Astetisk Carbon Ones and my legs are ALWAYS more comfortable in the Mobius braces. I get random pinch points on the Aterisks, especially the tighter I make them to stop the slippage (which largely does work).

So I think I've decided my daily drivers are Mobius X8 knee braces. Easy and repeatable fitting, beefier impact construction (it seems), and I think I am starting to appreciate the less rigid (than carbon fiber) design approach where "some give" overall may help better distribute crash loads.

I think my next experiment will be to add an Asterisk boot tether to the Mobius X8 knee braces to get that crucial feature. More to come.

I’m interested in your experiment with the boot tether, if that does work it will be a killer combo with the mobius ! Keep us updated thx
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11/30/2021 2:46pm Edited Date/Time 12/4/2021 9:21pm
Rider 5280 wrote:
Colorado has been unseasonably warm, so I rode 3 times in the past 4 days. I can't recall ever being able to swing that actually, so...
Colorado has been unseasonably warm, so I rode 3 times in the past 4 days. I can't recall ever being able to swing that actually, so I had to seize the moment.

At any rate, I continued testing my Mobius X8 knee braces back-to-back with the Astetisk Carbon Ones and my legs are ALWAYS more comfortable in the Mobius braces. I get random pinch points on the Aterisks, especially the tighter I make them to stop the slippage (which largely does work).

So I think I've decided my daily drivers are Mobius X8 knee braces. Easy and repeatable fitting, beefier impact construction (it seems), and I think I am starting to appreciate the less rigid (than carbon fiber) design approach where "some give" overall may help better distribute crash loads.

I think my next experiment will be to add an Asterisk boot tether to the Mobius X8 knee braces to get that crucial feature. More to come.

I’m interested in your experiment with the boot tether, if that does work it will be a killer combo with the mobius ! Keep us updated...
I’m interested in your experiment with the boot tether, if that does work it will be a killer combo with the mobius ! Keep us updated thx
Will do. It likely the end of my riding season and it will be months before I reply, but it's on my list!

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