2022 CRF250R

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10/26/2021 6:32am
This is pretty spot on. I like what he said about the mid-range to top on the Honda and the stability of the chassis through turns.

For me, the combination of the tendency of the Yamaha to dive in the middle/edit of the corner, plus the grunt of the motor, made it not very fun to ride. When you nail a turn on the Yamaha, you are just "rewarded" with the engine spooling up and having to shift very quickly. I get that I can just short-shift it, but, in a lot of circumstances, it's not worth it as you are close to the entrance on the next turn or a jump.

On the Honda, it stays super balanced and turns great, so you can roll on the throttle early (and it doesn't have a monster bottom end that will mess up your turn), so I am always always in that nice mid-range exiting the turn, and then it really comes on and the motor really pulls from mid to top.

He is spot on that you give up some comfort on the Honda versus the Yamaha. I do like the action of the Showa stuff, but it is just harsher, and honestly going softer on compression for me just sacrificed performance without giving me any more comfort. I am going to send my suspension to Enzo at about 15 hours for a revalve and some coatings.
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10/26/2021 1:33pm
I thought that last guy was going to choose the Honda for sure. That was a cool little video Keefer did. Both are amazing bikes all around and you couldn't make a bad decision either way. That girl in the video who chose the Honda is badass!
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10/29/2021 6:39am
Hi,

Is anyone having an issue with the forks twisting easily in a crash? Even when properly torqued and using solid cones for the clamps. The bars are not twisting, the forks are. I don't want to up the torque and flex the tubes...............

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10/29/2021 6:47am
Hi, Is anyone having an issue with the forks twisting easily in a crash? Even when properly torqued and using solid cones for the clamps. The...
Hi,

Is anyone having an issue with the forks twisting easily in a crash? Even when properly torqued and using solid cones for the clamps. The bars are not twisting, the forks are. I don't want to up the torque and flex the tubes...............
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel.

From the factory my triple clamp were way too lose, never had an issue again when I torque them properly.
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10/29/2021 7:44am
Hi, Is anyone having an issue with the forks twisting easily in a crash? Even when properly torqued and using solid cones for the clamps. The...
Hi,

Is anyone having an issue with the forks twisting easily in a crash? Even when properly torqued and using solid cones for the clamps. The bars are not twisting, the forks are. I don't want to up the torque and flex the tubes...............
fredmotokx wrote:
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel. From the factory my triple clamp were way...
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel.

From the factory my triple clamp were way too lose, never had an issue again when I torque them properly.
Thanks. A couple of us are having the issue here. Both torqued to spec using two different calibrated torque wrenches.
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Hi, Is anyone having an issue with the forks twisting easily in a crash? Even when properly torqued and using solid cones for the clamps. The...
Hi,

Is anyone having an issue with the forks twisting easily in a crash? Even when properly torqued and using solid cones for the clamps. The bars are not twisting, the forks are. I don't want to up the torque and flex the tubes...............
fredmotokx wrote:
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel. From the factory my triple clamp were way...
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel.

From the factory my triple clamp were way too lose, never had an issue again when I torque them properly.
Thanks. A couple of us are having the issue here. Both torqued to spec using two different calibrated torque wrenches.
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the whole Luxon triple clamp instead of just the bar mounts.

Supposedly the triple clamps were changed for the new model. Does anyone know what changed?
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10/29/2021 3:21pm
fredmotokx wrote:
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel. From the factory my triple clamp were way...
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel.

From the factory my triple clamp were way too lose, never had an issue again when I torque them properly.
Thanks. A couple of us are having the issue here. Both torqued to spec using two different calibrated torque wrenches.
wrc777 wrote:
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the...
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the whole Luxon triple clamp instead of just the bar mounts.

Supposedly the triple clamps were changed for the new model. Does anyone know what changed?
Wonder if they are softer to deal with chassis rigidity.
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Wonder if they are softer to deal with chassis rigidity.
I compared a picture and they are different to fit the new number plate. Other than that and the missing mount hole for the steering damper there isn’t much difference. I would think the 450 would have the same issue.
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Where do I get one, hoping someone makes some nice frame side guards, nice and slim
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Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250)

I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock and 5.0N/mm for shock, but question is, are they needed for a 185lbs rider?

(answer is, go out and ride, but will not ride for a month now unfortunately so not an option, but could have new springs installed in that time if my 185lbs will need it)

If anyone around 185 (or close) have any experience I would greatly appriciate the feedback.
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11/3/2021 10:56am
8500rpm wrote:
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250) I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock...
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250)

I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock and 5.0N/mm for shock, but question is, are they needed for a 185lbs rider?

(answer is, go out and ride, but will not ride for a month now unfortunately so not an option, but could have new springs installed in that time if my 185lbs will need it)

If anyone around 185 (or close) have any experience I would greatly appriciate the feedback.
It all depends on your skill level.

My buddy just got a 2022 and he's 180 pounds and found the stock springs to be pretty damn close to where he needs to be. He used the keefer settings and actually backed off the compression 2 clicks on the fork to soften it a bit. He's a decent b rider.
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8500rpm wrote:
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250) I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock...
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250)

I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock and 5.0N/mm for shock, but question is, are they needed for a 185lbs rider?

(answer is, go out and ride, but will not ride for a month now unfortunately so not an option, but could have new springs installed in that time if my 185lbs will need it)

If anyone around 185 (or close) have any experience I would greatly appriciate the feedback.
It all depends on your skill level. My buddy just got a 2022 and he's 180 pounds and found the stock springs to be pretty damn...
It all depends on your skill level.

My buddy just got a 2022 and he's 180 pounds and found the stock springs to be pretty damn close to where he needs to be. He used the keefer settings and actually backed off the compression 2 clicks on the fork to soften it a bit. He's a decent b rider.
Thanks Fourfourone!

Yeah, forgot to mention that, skill level but your feedback sounds very good! Thank you!
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11/4/2021 6:27am
8500rpm wrote:
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250) I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock...
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250)

I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock and 5.0N/mm for shock, but question is, are they needed for a 185lbs rider?

(answer is, go out and ride, but will not ride for a month now unfortunately so not an option, but could have new springs installed in that time if my 185lbs will need it)

If anyone around 185 (or close) have any experience I would greatly appriciate the feedback.
I'm 165 without gear, I like the stock spring rates, but I tend to like stiffer suspension in general. At 185, even if you are slow, I could not imagine wanted to go softer. At the point, the forks will probably ride pretty low in the stroke and make the slight harshness people experience worse.
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Put me down for one 😍
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Does the frame/triple clamp of the 2022 250F have the mounting holes for the steering dampener?
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8500rpm wrote:
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250) I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock...
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250)

I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock and 5.0N/mm for shock, but question is, are they needed for a 185lbs rider?

(answer is, go out and ride, but will not ride for a month now unfortunately so not an option, but could have new springs installed in that time if my 185lbs will need it)

If anyone around 185 (or close) have any experience I would greatly appriciate the feedback.
I'm 165 without gear, I like the stock spring rates, but I tend to like stiffer suspension in general. At 185, even if you are slow...
I'm 165 without gear, I like the stock spring rates, but I tend to like stiffer suspension in general. At 185, even if you are slow, I could not imagine wanted to go softer. At the point, the forks will probably ride pretty low in the stroke and make the slight harshness people experience worse.
No, wouldn't go softer of course, at 185, I was wondering maybe I should install one step stiffer(!) than standard.

Then again, Sag sets right at 105 at the moment, but as I'm not a suspension tuner expert, is it possible to achieve correct sag and still the springs be to soft when actually riding?

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mtl wrote:
Does the frame/triple clamp of the 2022 250F have the mounting holes for the steering dampener?
Nothing on the frame. I am not sure what it looked like on the clamps but I think it is gone there too.
11/4/2021 3:13pm Edited Date/Time 11/5/2021 2:48am
mtl wrote:
Does the frame/triple clamp of the 2022 250F have the mounting holes for the steering dampener?
No, mounting hole are completely gone on both the frame and triple clamp

@COAL-TRAIN : Is your skid plate available to purchase by peasant like me or only a factory team part? Available in matte finish or even dry carbon?
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11/4/2021 7:05pm
8500rpm wrote:
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250) I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock...
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250)

I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock and 5.0N/mm for shock, but question is, are they needed for a 185lbs rider?

(answer is, go out and ride, but will not ride for a month now unfortunately so not an option, but could have new springs installed in that time if my 185lbs will need it)

If anyone around 185 (or close) have any experience I would greatly appriciate the feedback.
I'm 165 without gear, I like the stock spring rates, but I tend to like stiffer suspension in general. At 185, even if you are slow...
I'm 165 without gear, I like the stock spring rates, but I tend to like stiffer suspension in general. At 185, even if you are slow, I could not imagine wanted to go softer. At the point, the forks will probably ride pretty low in the stroke and make the slight harshness people experience worse.
8500rpm wrote:
No, wouldn't go softer of course, at 185, I was wondering maybe I should install one step stiffer(!) than standard. Then again, Sag sets right at...
No, wouldn't go softer of course, at 185, I was wondering maybe I should install one step stiffer(!) than standard.

Then again, Sag sets right at 105 at the moment, but as I'm not a suspension tuner expert, is it possible to achieve correct sag and still the springs be to soft when actually riding?

Yes but your sag without rider will be too low
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Look at static sag info
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mtl wrote:
Does the frame/triple clamp of the 2022 250F have the mounting holes for the steering dampener?
No, mounting hole are completely gone on both the frame and triple clamp @COAL-TRAIN : Is your skid plate available to purchase by peasant like me...
No, mounting hole are completely gone on both the frame and triple clamp

@COAL-TRAIN : Is your skid plate available to purchase by peasant like me or only a factory team part? Available in matte finish or even dry carbon?
That sucks, any ideas on why the removed it?
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11/5/2021 4:37am
8500rpm wrote:
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250) I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock...
Do we have any 185lbs riders here? (that have been riding the new '22 CRF250)

I see the optional stiffer springs are 52N/mm for the shock and 5.0N/mm for shock, but question is, are they needed for a 185lbs rider?

(answer is, go out and ride, but will not ride for a month now unfortunately so not an option, but could have new springs installed in that time if my 185lbs will need it)

If anyone around 185 (or close) have any experience I would greatly appriciate the feedback.
I'm 165 without gear, I like the stock spring rates, but I tend to like stiffer suspension in general. At 185, even if you are slow...
I'm 165 without gear, I like the stock spring rates, but I tend to like stiffer suspension in general. At 185, even if you are slow, I could not imagine wanted to go softer. At the point, the forks will probably ride pretty low in the stroke and make the slight harshness people experience worse.
8500rpm wrote:
No, wouldn't go softer of course, at 185, I was wondering maybe I should install one step stiffer(!) than standard. Then again, Sag sets right at...
No, wouldn't go softer of course, at 185, I was wondering maybe I should install one step stiffer(!) than standard.

Then again, Sag sets right at 105 at the moment, but as I'm not a suspension tuner expert, is it possible to achieve correct sag and still the springs be to soft when actually riding?

How fast are you? Do you like really stiff suspension? If you’re quite fast and like a stiff setup you might want to try it.
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11/5/2021 4:39am Edited Date/Time 11/5/2021 4:40am
Did my first oil change after break in (1.5 hours). Is that blue stuff and amount of metal specs in the oil look expected / normal...
Did my first oil change after break in (1.5 hours). Is that blue stuff and amount of metal specs in the oil look expected / normal? I’ve never inspected this before at break in, but I’m getting older and more diligent.




Changed the oil after I put another 4 hours on it riding deep sand and the oil and filter looked brand new, so Keefer and the dealer were right this was normal break in stuff.
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fredmotokx wrote:
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel. From the factory my triple clamp were way...
I also realised my fork twisted because my front fender was not align anymore with my front wheel.

From the factory my triple clamp were way too lose, never had an issue again when I torque them properly.
Thanks. A couple of us are having the issue here. Both torqued to spec using two different calibrated torque wrenches.
wrc777 wrote:
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the...
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the whole Luxon triple clamp instead of just the bar mounts.

Supposedly the triple clamps were changed for the new model. Does anyone know what changed?
Well I had a get off on a trail and the bike fell over and forks were misaligned again. It took one good whack against a tree to straighten them. I don’t know which is worse, that it took such a small fall to twist them or that is was so easy to straighten them.
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Thanks. A couple of us are having the issue here. Both torqued to spec using two different calibrated torque wrenches.
wrc777 wrote:
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the...
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the whole Luxon triple clamp instead of just the bar mounts.

Supposedly the triple clamps were changed for the new model. Does anyone know what changed?
wrc777 wrote:
Well I had a get off on a trail and the bike fell over and forks were misaligned again. It took one good whack against a...
Well I had a get off on a trail and the bike fell over and forks were misaligned again. It took one good whack against a tree to straighten them. I don’t know which is worse, that it took such a small fall to twist them or that is was so easy to straighten them.
My 2018 yz250f was much the same. I always thought it was the rubber bar mounts
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wrc777 wrote:
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the...
I hit hard enough to bend the lower bar mount and it twisted my triple clamps too. Now I kind of wish I had ordered the whole Luxon triple clamp instead of just the bar mounts.

Supposedly the triple clamps were changed for the new model. Does anyone know what changed?
wrc777 wrote:
Well I had a get off on a trail and the bike fell over and forks were misaligned again. It took one good whack against a...
Well I had a get off on a trail and the bike fell over and forks were misaligned again. It took one good whack against a tree to straighten them. I don’t know which is worse, that it took such a small fall to twist them or that is was so easy to straighten them.
Fresh wrote:
My 2018 yz250f was much the same. I always thought it was the rubber bar mounts
I have a one piece mount. It is not where the twisting is happening. I think it is mostly the fork lugs.
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wrc777 wrote:
Well I had a get off on a trail and the bike fell over and forks were misaligned again. It took one good whack against a...
Well I had a get off on a trail and the bike fell over and forks were misaligned again. It took one good whack against a tree to straighten them. I don’t know which is worse, that it took such a small fall to twist them or that is was so easy to straighten them.
Fresh wrote:
My 2018 yz250f was much the same. I always thought it was the rubber bar mounts
wrc777 wrote:
I have a one piece mount. It is not where the twisting is happening. I think it is mostly the fork lugs.
Yes but your one piece mount is probably fixed on rubber mounts inside the triple clamps.

I had the exact same problems on my sxf 2016 and zera aluminum mounts fixed the problem
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Fresh wrote:
My 2018 yz250f was much the same. I always thought it was the rubber bar mounts
wrc777 wrote:
I have a one piece mount. It is not where the twisting is happening. I think it is mostly the fork lugs.
Yes but your one piece mount is probably fixed on rubber mounts inside the triple clamps. I had the exact same problems on my sxf 2016...
Yes but your one piece mount is probably fixed on rubber mounts inside the triple clamps.

I had the exact same problems on my sxf 2016 and zera aluminum mounts fixed the problem
So the aluminum cones kept the upper and lower triple clamps from twisting relative to each other?

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