Why can't we buy pro rider jersey's like ball sports?

wheelieLA
Profile picture for user wheelieLA
Posts
9
Joined
7/20/2021
Location
New York, NY, USA
wheelieLA
Edited Date/Time 10/6/2021 5:17pm
Does anyone know why the gear companies don't make replica jersey's every season? I imagine it has something to do with the amount of sponsors any given rider may have, and the gear companies not wanting to pay a sales royalty to 10 sponsors on every jersey sold, but does anyone here have any insight on this?
7
4
|
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
8220
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
Johnny Ringo 10/4/2021 7:23pm
10/4/2021 7:23pm
You nailed it. No other answer than that. $$$
KirkChandler
Profile picture for user KirkChandler
Posts
1678
Joined
7/31/2015
Location
Oceanside, CA, USA
KirkChandler 10/4/2021 7:23pm
10/4/2021 7:23pm
That’s it.
agn5008
Profile picture for user agn5008
Posts
1988
Joined
3/8/2021
Location
PA, PA, USA
Fantasy
59th
agn5008 10/4/2021 7:23pm
10/4/2021 7:23pm
They wouldn’t sell enough to justify doing it. Every now and then you can find them though. Somehow I ended up with a Tedesco replica jersey years ago. I don’t even remember how I got it. Too many concussions 🤷‍♂️
2
4
wheelieLA
Profile picture for user wheelieLA
Posts
9
Joined
7/20/2021
Location
New York, NY, USA
wheelieLA 10/4/2021 8:48pm
10/4/2021 8:48pm
So if they can't make money selling jersey's with every sponsor's logo on it, why don't we see more signature product made by individual sponsors?



1

The Shop

See All »
mxb2
Profile picture for user mxb2
Posts
22437
Joined
6/15/2010
Location
Bowie, MD, USA
mxb2 10/4/2021 8:56pm
10/4/2021 8:56pm
wheelieLA wrote:
Does anyone know why the gear companies don't make replica jersey's every season? I imagine it has something to do with the amount of sponsors any...
Does anyone know why the gear companies don't make replica jersey's every season? I imagine it has something to do with the amount of sponsors any given rider may have, and the gear companies not wanting to pay a sales royalty to 10 sponsors on every jersey sold, but does anyone here have any insight on this?
R2r. Or st judes. You can but legit stuff. They used to make replicas,. Ebay had some. You can make your own, a few logos might be hard to get though. Some top riders will not sign replicas though.
1
1
scott_nz 10/4/2021 9:09pm
10/4/2021 9:09pm
Thor did do them for a while , would think with direct sales now through the internet. you could do A run every year
1
Motofinne
Profile picture for user Motofinne
Posts
11490
Joined
1/4/2014
Location
FI
Motofinne 10/4/2021 10:24pm
10/4/2021 10:24pm Edited Date/Time 10/4/2021 10:31pm
I think JT answered this on a PulpMX show once. According to him, the price of the jersey would be astronomical because of royalties to the sponsors on the jersey. Basically, they would be way too expensive so nobody would buy them.

What a great way to shoot yourself in the foot. I know what i would choose as a business owner. People buying jerseys with my company's logo on it vs nobody buying these kind of jerseys.
11
chasetwo79
Profile picture for user chasetwo79
Posts
1595
Joined
12/1/2019
Location
Truckee, CA, CA, USA
chasetwo79 10/4/2021 10:46pm
10/4/2021 10:46pm
Motofinne wrote:
I think JT answered this on a PulpMX show once. According to him, the price of the jersey would be astronomical because of royalties to the...
I think JT answered this on a PulpMX show once. According to him, the price of the jersey would be astronomical because of royalties to the sponsors on the jersey. Basically, they would be way too expensive so nobody would buy them.

What a great way to shoot yourself in the foot. I know what i would choose as a business owner. People buying jerseys with my company's logo on it vs nobody buying these kind of jerseys.
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they can figure it out, surely someone could work it out at the scale we’re at. It’s probably not worth it with the small scale of fans that we have but who knows…
2
4
bigk218
Profile picture for user bigk218
Posts
1456
Joined
1/2/2018
Location
Summerville, SC, USA
bigk218 10/4/2021 11:02pm
10/4/2021 11:02pm
I’d really like a Blake Baggett, fly racing, Rocky Mountain KTM t shirt!
5
1
Sully
Profile picture for user Sully
Posts
9396
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
Sully 10/4/2021 11:34pm
10/4/2021 11:34pm
Motofinne wrote:
I think JT answered this on a PulpMX show once. According to him, the price of the jersey would be astronomical because of royalties to the...
I think JT answered this on a PulpMX show once. According to him, the price of the jersey would be astronomical because of royalties to the sponsors on the jersey. Basically, they would be way too expensive so nobody would buy them.

What a great way to shoot yourself in the foot. I know what i would choose as a business owner. People buying jerseys with my company's logo on it vs nobody buying these kind of jerseys.
chasetwo79 wrote:
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they...
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they can figure it out, surely someone could work it out at the scale we’re at. It’s probably not worth it with the small scale of fans that we have but who knows…
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If you buy a Ferrandis jersey, Thor eats the cost of paying Dylan's personal sponsors (and AP's, and Webb's, etc), and I just don't see them doing that.
3
jaun
Profile picture for user jaun
Posts
788
Joined
4/27/2021
Location
MX
jaun 10/5/2021 12:08am
10/5/2021 12:08am
I remember around 03 Thor did some, I had a sweet set of YOT gear! I know there was some PC gear to.
3
mx313
Profile picture for user mx313
Posts
1532
Joined
10/5/2021
Location
Brisbane City, QLD, AU
mx313 10/5/2021 12:27am
10/5/2021 12:27am
Motofinne wrote:
I think JT answered this on a PulpMX show once. According to him, the price of the jersey would be astronomical because of royalties to the...
I think JT answered this on a PulpMX show once. According to him, the price of the jersey would be astronomical because of royalties to the sponsors on the jersey. Basically, they would be way too expensive so nobody would buy them.

What a great way to shoot yourself in the foot. I know what i would choose as a business owner. People buying jerseys with my company's logo on it vs nobody buying these kind of jerseys.
chasetwo79 wrote:
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they...
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they can figure it out, surely someone could work it out at the scale we’re at. It’s probably not worth it with the small scale of fans that we have but who knows…
Sully wrote:
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If...
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If you buy a Ferrandis jersey, Thor eats the cost of paying Dylan's personal sponsors (and AP's, and Webb's, etc), and I just don't see them doing that.
This doesn't make much sense to me.
Dylan's sponsors are paying him to have there logos on his jersey. Why would u then have to pay them back for free advertising. Unless the advertised company claims Thor is making a profit off there logo.
All they need to do is have a contract clause stating company logos may be used in merchandise.
You can normally buy team shirts and replica graphics with all the logos.
7
2
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
8220
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
Johnny Ringo 10/5/2021 4:27am
10/5/2021 4:27am
chasetwo79 wrote:
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they...
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they can figure it out, surely someone could work it out at the scale we’re at. It’s probably not worth it with the small scale of fans that we have but who knows…
Sully wrote:
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If...
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If you buy a Ferrandis jersey, Thor eats the cost of paying Dylan's personal sponsors (and AP's, and Webb's, etc), and I just don't see them doing that.
mx313 wrote:
This doesn't make much sense to me. Dylan's sponsors are paying him to have there logos on his jersey. Why would u then have to pay...
This doesn't make much sense to me.
Dylan's sponsors are paying him to have there logos on his jersey. Why would u then have to pay them back for free advertising. Unless the advertised company claims Thor is making a profit off there logo.
All they need to do is have a contract clause stating company logos may be used in merchandise.
You can normally buy team shirts and replica graphics with all the logos.
Thor making money off a logo that isn’t theirs is the problem
4
1
Thisusernameisavailable 10/5/2021 4:44am
10/5/2021 4:44am
Around 2002-2005 Fox did RC & Bubba replica jerseys. And Im sure Thor did a Reed one as well.

Race numbers on the back and Names of course. It makes sense for the gear companies to do them and if other sponsors have big demands on some royalties just leave that particular logo off of it.

To display that this is a 'Replica' and not an original, they should imprint the riders signature somewhere on it. Anyone remember the Danes 'Dave Thorpe kit?
McG194
Profile picture for user McG194
Posts
4120
Joined
9/7/2017
Location
Palm Coast, FL, USA
McG194 10/5/2021 5:40am
10/5/2021 5:40am
chasetwo79 wrote:
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they...
That makes zero sense. You buy soccer jerseys all the time with sponsors on them. Same with the new NBA rules that allow it. If they can figure it out, surely someone could work it out at the scale we’re at. It’s probably not worth it with the small scale of fans that we have but who knows…
Sully wrote:
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If...
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If you buy a Ferrandis jersey, Thor eats the cost of paying Dylan's personal sponsors (and AP's, and Webb's, etc), and I just don't see them doing that.
mx313 wrote:
This doesn't make much sense to me. Dylan's sponsors are paying him to have there logos on his jersey. Why would u then have to pay...
This doesn't make much sense to me.
Dylan's sponsors are paying him to have there logos on his jersey. Why would u then have to pay them back for free advertising. Unless the advertised company claims Thor is making a profit off there logo.
All they need to do is have a contract clause stating company logos may be used in merchandise.
You can normally buy team shirts and replica graphics with all the logos.
The problem is the companies with logos on the shirt have to protect their trademark. Once they don't protect it they lose the right to protect it and anyone can use the logo without paying them.
4
tingo
Profile picture for user tingo
Posts
1194
Joined
8/16/2016
Location
Orlando, FL, USA
tingo 10/5/2021 5:58am
10/5/2021 5:58am
Sully wrote:
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If...
If you buy a LeBron jersey, or a Messi jersey, their multi-billion dollar teams can eat the cost of sponsor royalties, not the shirt's manufacturer. If you buy a Ferrandis jersey, Thor eats the cost of paying Dylan's personal sponsors (and AP's, and Webb's, etc), and I just don't see them doing that.
mx313 wrote:
This doesn't make much sense to me. Dylan's sponsors are paying him to have there logos on his jersey. Why would u then have to pay...
This doesn't make much sense to me.
Dylan's sponsors are paying him to have there logos on his jersey. Why would u then have to pay them back for free advertising. Unless the advertised company claims Thor is making a profit off there logo.
All they need to do is have a contract clause stating company logos may be used in merchandise.
You can normally buy team shirts and replica graphics with all the logos.
McG194 wrote:
The problem is the companies with logos on the shirt have to protect their trademark. Once they don't protect it they lose the right to protect...
The problem is the companies with logos on the shirt have to protect their trademark. Once they don't protect it they lose the right to protect it and anyone can use the logo without paying them.
But that could be covered via a simple clause in the contract. Officially licensing your trademarks and logos for replica jerseys has nothing to do with Joe Blow deciding to download your logo off the interwebs and printing his own.

Call me a bad businessman, but if I were "insert sponsor here" I'd feel like I robbed the sumbitches blind to have people buying replica jersey's that included our company logo. As others have pointed out, it's free advertising and is effectively more bang for your buck than what you'd get by just having your sponsored athlete wear the gear.
4
1
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 10/5/2021 6:07am
10/5/2021 6:07am
I have fox gear that has Honda symbols and logos on them, i wonder how fox and Honda worked this out then?
1
ML512
Profile picture for user ML512
Posts
16967
Joined
12/28/2008
Location
Wildomar, CA, USA
Fantasy
1264th
ML512 10/5/2021 6:21am
10/5/2021 6:21am
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
I have fox gear that has Honda symbols and logos on them, i wonder how fox and Honda worked this out then? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513244/s1200_i_vsBx4x7_X2.jpg[/img]
I have fox gear that has Honda symbols and logos on them, i wonder how fox and Honda worked this out then?
Fox pays Honda a set royalty for every set of that gear they sell and Honda had to approve of the overall design.
1

Pit Row

See All »
Dirty Points 10/5/2021 6:22am
10/5/2021 6:22am Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 9:40am
MX be like:
"We can't have replica kits like ball sports because of sponsors"

Ball sports be like:

"Adidas special edition Wednesday colors. $399. Cash, credit, cashapp, BTC, ethereum, Frito-lay loyalty reward points, team branded currency, or direct deduct from your paycheck. Open a Quality Inn/Pepsi reverse mortgage at the team store for 3% off, double Virgin airline miles, and more discount opportunities from team partners."
7
2
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
8220
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
Johnny Ringo 10/5/2021 6:48am
10/5/2021 6:48am Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 6:49am
Dirty Points wrote:
[b]MX be like:[/b] [I]"We can't have replica kits like ball sports because of sponsors" [/I] [B]Ball sports be like:[/b] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513251/s1200_2018_19_Tigres_UANL_10_GIGNAC_Away_Soccer_Jersey.jpg[/img] [I]"Adidas special edition Wednesday colors. $399...
MX be like:
"We can't have replica kits like ball sports because of sponsors"

Ball sports be like:

"Adidas special edition Wednesday colors. $399. Cash, credit, cashapp, BTC, ethereum, Frito-lay loyalty reward points, team branded currency, or direct deduct from your paycheck. Open a Quality Inn/Pepsi reverse mortgage at the team store for 3% off, double Virgin airline miles, and more discount opportunities from team partners."
$400 lol
4
Hollywood009 10/5/2021 6:57am
10/5/2021 6:57am
Riders change their kits every week, you can buy the same kits through FOX TLD O'neal, only difference is they dont have the numbers or the sponsors printed on them, which most places can add for you if you want them. Riders also change their sponsors all the time. Another option would be to buy a race worn jersey, they do get auctioned off all the time.
Dirty Points 10/5/2021 7:42am
10/5/2021 7:42am Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 7:46am
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
I have fox gear that has Honda symbols and logos on them, i wonder how fox and Honda worked this out then? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513244/s1200_i_vsBx4x7_X2.jpg[/img]
I have fox gear that has Honda symbols and logos on them, i wonder how fox and Honda worked this out then?
C'mon, man.
Honda gear?

3
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
8220
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
Johnny Ringo 10/5/2021 7:46am
10/5/2021 7:46am
When the hell would you wear a Ken Roczen jersey? To the mall? While riding? Pick up kit at the races?
1
5
Dirty Points 10/5/2021 8:07am
10/5/2021 8:07am
Johnny Ringo wrote:
When the hell would you wear a Ken Roczen jersey? To the mall? While riding? Pick up kit at the races?
Personally, I would want to wear my Roczen jersey while balling in my R8.
1
Jeremy Macduff 10/5/2021 10:27am
10/5/2021 10:27am Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 10:29am
Not enough money to be made for such a product otherwise a company like Fanatics would be all over it.
Tonynz
Profile picture for user Tonynz
Posts
847
Joined
9/21/2014
Location
NZ
Tonynz 10/5/2021 1:13pm
10/5/2021 1:13pm
scott_nz wrote:
Thor did do them for a while , would think with direct sales now through the internet. you could do A run every year
Here is a Thor, McGrath jersey from about 20 years ago.
Not sure if the were available to the public, got it from the Thor distributor here in NZ.
6
JBecker 72
Profile picture for user JBecker 72
Posts
1810
Joined
3/25/2014
Location
Eastern Panhandle, WV, USA
JBecker 72 10/5/2021 1:34pm
10/5/2021 1:34pm Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 2:30pm
Johnny Ringo wrote:
When the hell would you wear a Ken Roczen jersey? To the mall? While riding? Pick up kit at the races?
I’d frame it and put it up in the man cave.
3
Blue Groove 10/5/2021 1:48pm
10/5/2021 1:48pm
Dirty Points wrote:
[b]MX be like:[/b] [I]"We can't have replica kits like ball sports because of sponsors" [/I] [B]Ball sports be like:[/b] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/05/513251/s1200_2018_19_Tigres_UANL_10_GIGNAC_Away_Soccer_Jersey.jpg[/img] [I]"Adidas special edition Wednesday colors. $399...
MX be like:
"We can't have replica kits like ball sports because of sponsors"

Ball sports be like:

"Adidas special edition Wednesday colors. $399. Cash, credit, cashapp, BTC, ethereum, Frito-lay loyalty reward points, team branded currency, or direct deduct from your paycheck. Open a Quality Inn/Pepsi reverse mortgage at the team store for 3% off, double Virgin airline miles, and more discount opportunities from team partners."
I would like some more info on the Quality Inn/Pepsi reverse mortgage please?! Woohoo
Kennyfreemoney 10/5/2021 2:06pm
10/5/2021 2:06pm
not sure bout anyone else, but I would want a replica jersey, but with MY name and number on it. personally, I see the kits these guys wear and love them, but I don't think they look as good without the sponsor logos on them
Johnny Ringo
Profile picture for user Johnny Ringo
Posts
8220
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
Johnny Ringo 10/5/2021 2:15pm
10/5/2021 2:15pm
Kennyfreemoney wrote:
not sure bout anyone else, but I would want a replica jersey, but with MY name and number on it. personally, I see the kits these...
not sure bout anyone else, but I would want a replica jersey, but with MY name and number on it. personally, I see the kits these guys wear and love them, but I don't think they look as good without the sponsor logos on them
Back in the day FX made iron-on kits you could do this yourself

Post a reply to: Why can't we buy pro rider jersey's like ball sports?