Stadiums, Feld and the Vax

Edited Date/Time 10/3/2021 11:12am
Surprised I haven’t seen anything about this yet after watching Ping’s IG video. Certain stadiums are requiring the vax and sounds like Feld is telling everyone they either need to be vaxxed or they can’t race/spectate at those stadiums. Really interested to see how this goes. Our sport for the most part has been pretty free and clear of this issue…until now.
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Hope the OEM’s, team owners, and Riders stand up to this bullshit.
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Sooooo many people in the paddock got covid... Do they still need to be vaccinated?
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10/1/2021 12:11am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2021 6:35am
Freedom of choice
Yes, to either attend at / compete in, or Not, an event if the original poster's information is correct.
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Real simple for me. I won’t be supporting any company that forces their employees/participants to take a medical procedure against their will. Waiting to see how this plays out before renewing by Peacock sub or buying tickets for Anaheim.
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10/1/2021 3:12am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2021 3:12am
chuckie108 wrote:
Real simple for me. I won’t be supporting any company that forces their employees/participants to take a medical procedure against their will. Waiting to see how...
Real simple for me. I won’t be supporting any company that forces their employees/participants to take a medical procedure against their will. Waiting to see how this plays out before renewing by Peacock sub or buying tickets for Anaheim.
So you do not support our military?
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Eat a dick feld and the stadiums
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Learn the law.
Jacobson v. Massachusetts

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/197us11


Facts of the case
A Massachusetts law allowed cities to require residents to be vaccinated against smallpox. Cambridge adopted such an ordinance, with some exceptions. Jacobson refused to comply with the requirement and was fined five dollars.

Question
Did the mandatory vaccination law violate Jacobson's Fourteenth Amendment right to liberty?

Conclusion
The Court held that the law was a legitimate exercise of the state's police power to protect the public health and safety of its citizens. Local boards of health determined when mandatory vaccinations were needed, thus making the requirement neither unreasonable nor arbitrarily imposed.

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Eat a dick feld and the stadiums
Brightest bulb in the room.
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dedi684 wrote:
Eat a dick feld and the stadiums
KONG wrote:
Brightest bulb in the room.
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Yup ive spent 40 years supporting the sport ill choose to support whoever the fuck i want
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Hope the OEM’s, team owners, and Riders stand up to this bullshit.
how many riders are un vaxed I wonder, i would assume more are not than are? would be great if they all come together and boycott every stadium with this BS rule
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May be an alternative soon?


Merck announced Friday that an experimental pill it developed to treat covid-19 reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly half in a clinical trial.

An independent board of experts monitoring the trial recommended the study be stopped early because of the positive results, a significant and telling step in a pharmaceutical study.

Merck and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics said in a news release they would apply for emergency use authorization for the drug, molnupiravir, in the United States as soon as possible. It would be the first antiviral pill for covid-19.

A simple, easy-to-prescribe pill that prevents mild and moderate cases of covid-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, from turning into dire episodes has been one of the missing pieces of the medical armamentarium to fight the virus.

Merck has already begun producing molnupiravir. The small brown capsules must be taken twice a day for five days. The company predicts it will make 10 million courses of treatment by the end of the year. The U.S. government made an advance purchase of 1.7 million doses of the drug at a cost of $1.2 billion.
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a little more...


Laboratory and animal experiments suggest the pill may be effective against known variants, including delta. Unlike vaccines or antibodies that target specific proteins on the surface of the virus, molnupiravir works by introducing nonsense mutations and garbling the coronavirus’s genetic code. That means it may be more resistant to mutation, and may even work on other coronaviruses or RNA viruses.

“As a virologist, that’s one of the things I find particularly exciting,” Hazuda said. “Now, we’ve demonstrated the potential to have a drug that could work across multiple coronaviruses. I don’t think this is the last pandemic in our lifetime, and having something readily available that is active would be amazing.”
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If you actually listen to Ping’s video, according to ‘a factory rider’s agent’ and Mitch Payton, all the factory riders will either have to be vaccinated or the teams will find someone else who is, because they are going racing. I think the riders hands are tied here.
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flarider wrote:
May be an alternative soon? Merck announced Friday that an experimental pill it developed to treat covid-19 reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly...
May be an alternative soon?


Merck announced Friday that an experimental pill it developed to treat covid-19 reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly half in a clinical trial.

An independent board of experts monitoring the trial recommended the study be stopped early because of the positive results, a significant and telling step in a pharmaceutical study.

Merck and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics said in a news release they would apply for emergency use authorization for the drug, molnupiravir, in the United States as soon as possible. It would be the first antiviral pill for covid-19.

A simple, easy-to-prescribe pill that prevents mild and moderate cases of covid-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, from turning into dire episodes has been one of the missing pieces of the medical armamentarium to fight the virus.

Merck has already begun producing molnupiravir. The small brown capsules must be taken twice a day for five days. The company predicts it will make 10 million courses of treatment by the end of the year. The U.S. government made an advance purchase of 1.7 million doses of the drug at a cost of $1.2 billion.
I’m not taking something that I don’t know what’s in it or, or has not been tested properly.

#sarcasm
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Learn the law.
flarider wrote:
Jacobson v. Massachusetts https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/197us11 Facts of the case A Massachusetts law allowed cities to require residents to be vaccinated against smallpox. Cambridge adopted such an ordinance...
Jacobson v. Massachusetts

https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/197us11


Facts of the case
A Massachusetts law allowed cities to require residents to be vaccinated against smallpox. Cambridge adopted such an ordinance, with some exceptions. Jacobson refused to comply with the requirement and was fined five dollars.

Question
Did the mandatory vaccination law violate Jacobson's Fourteenth Amendment right to liberty?

Conclusion
The Court held that the law was a legitimate exercise of the state's police power to protect the public health and safety of its citizens. Local boards of health determined when mandatory vaccinations were needed, thus making the requirement neither unreasonable nor arbitrarily imposed.

You really want to do this again?

#1 This is completely different circumstances. The Covid “vaccines” do not prevent infection or transmission so there is no “for the public good” argument..

#2 He wasn’t forcibly inoculated, he was required to pay a 5$ fine.

#3 This was the same Supreme Court who upheld forced sterilization for the “weak minded” aka poor minorities.

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10/1/2021 4:28am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2021 5:26am
flarider wrote:
May be an alternative soon? Merck announced Friday that an experimental pill it developed to treat covid-19 reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly...
May be an alternative soon?


Merck announced Friday that an experimental pill it developed to treat covid-19 reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly half in a clinical trial.

An independent board of experts monitoring the trial recommended the study be stopped early because of the positive results, a significant and telling step in a pharmaceutical study.

Merck and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics said in a news release they would apply for emergency use authorization for the drug, molnupiravir, in the United States as soon as possible. It would be the first antiviral pill for covid-19.

A simple, easy-to-prescribe pill that prevents mild and moderate cases of covid-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, from turning into dire episodes has been one of the missing pieces of the medical armamentarium to fight the virus.

Merck has already begun producing molnupiravir. The small brown capsules must be taken twice a day for five days. The company predicts it will make 10 million courses of treatment by the end of the year. The U.S. government made an advance purchase of 1.7 million doses of the drug at a cost of $1.2 billion.
This is the reason why Merck won’t back Ivermectin being used as a treatment. They developed it, it’s now off patent and behind the scenes they were developing their own new drug. Just goes to show you how shady big pharma is in the first place. Fair assumption to make that the government’s will change their stance on treatment vs vaccination once big pharma releases a few new treatments that will be on patent for many years and their profit margins can skyrocket. Anyone who thinks otherwise must not have a simple understanding of how pharma and the healthcare industry works. Similar to the military industrial complex.
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10/1/2021 4:28am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2021 4:29am
No one is force innoculating.

Don't get it

Don't care.

But don't fly, don't subway, don't hotel, don't eat out and stay out of stores.

Other than that, you're free to do as you please, just as those businesses have the right to refuse to serve the unvaxxed
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I’m not taking something that I don’t know what’s in it or, or has not been tested properly.

#sarcasm
List every ingredient then..I’ll be waiting awhile since they aren’t all disclosed.
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Like you'd know what they were
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flarider wrote:
No one is force innoculating. Don't get it Don't care. But don't fly, don't subway, don't hotel, don't eat out and stay out of stores. Other...
No one is force innoculating.

Don't get it

Don't care.

But don't fly, don't subway, don't hotel, don't eat out and stay out of stores.

Other than that, you're free to do as you please, just as those businesses have the right to refuse to serve the unvaxxed
How does that make any sense if it doesn’t prevent transmission or infection? Seriously explain..or do you just think you are on the winning team and get pleasure in seeing other people treated like second class citizens? I guess we know who’s team you would have been on in 1930’s Germany..
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So stupid
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Like you'd know what they were
I know you do since you are an expert In polyethylene glycol.
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flarider wrote:
No one is force innoculating. Don't get it Don't care. But don't fly, don't subway, don't hotel, don't eat out and stay out of stores. Other...
No one is force innoculating.

Don't get it

Don't care.

But don't fly, don't subway, don't hotel, don't eat out and stay out of stores.

Other than that, you're free to do as you please, just as those businesses have the right to refuse to serve the unvaxxed
It’s insane that this is just so normal and okay with some of you.
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10/1/2021 5:07am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2021 7:02am
I was in hospital last year with a burst and gangrenous appendix. I was operated on and given a suite of drugs to feed me and clean up the toxic crap that my body had created inside me.

I did not ask for the details on the chemical composition of what they prescribed. I did not ask for the doctors' credentials.

Reluctantly, I have chosen to be vaccinated, it makes no sense not to. Restrictions and passports and whatnot. It shits me. But there's no battle worth fighting here. Not when I have emergency surgery where my life is on the line and I just trust the docs.

And I trust the butcher and the baker and the guy who did the spokes on my bike. The guy that built the piston.

It shits me that the governments, businesses and the stadiums and the networks have taken the stance they have.

It shits me that my body tried to kill me.

Do or don't get vaxxed. I support you totally if you choose not to. Choose your battles.

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10/1/2021 5:19am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2021 6:57am
Gee I wonder how this thread is going to go
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Ok, unpopular opinion and I know the dislikes are going to fly but here goes. I used to be one of those people who was against getting the vax and being forced to get the vax. I still think that mandates are the wrong way to go about this, but it is what it is. Most employers are now either requiring it's employees to get the vax or are implementing some sort of healthcare penalty similar to tobacco users. Basically, they don't want to increase healthcare costs for people who safeguarded themselves against Covid-19. Companies and privately owned businesses have the right to make these requirements. Vaccine mandates are nothing new. Most public schools, colleges, and countries require certain vaccines in order to enter or attend. If you travel to South Africa, there are quite a few vaccines you have to get and show proof of before entering the country. I'm sure many of the MXGP guys have to get vaccinations in order to compete in all these different countries. Feld is a privately owned company that can create its own set of requirements. Whether you like it or not, they have the right to. No one is forcing these riders to race and no one is forcing fans to come to the races, but if you want to attend or compete you are going to have to follow the rules. At the end of the day, is it worth losing your job over? I would say no. Most of the "patriots" don't pay my bills. I'm not willing to put my finances at risk or go through the trouble of finding another job. I'm all for deciding what's best for your body, but I tend to trust experts in fields I'm not knowledgeable in. Make the decision for yourself, but you will have to be ok with the consequences. Just remember, all these motocross pros fighting the vaccine are not going to pay your bills or feed your families if you lose your job over it. For most of these pros who make millions every year, their lives aren't going to change if they decide to fight.
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felpro wrote:
I was in hospital last year with a burst and gangrenous appendix. I was operated on and given a suite of drugs to feed me and...
I was in hospital last year with a burst and gangrenous appendix. I was operated on and given a suite of drugs to feed me and clean up the toxic crap that my body had created inside me.

I did not ask for the details on the chemical composition of what they prescribed. I did not ask for the doctors' credentials.

Reluctantly, I have chosen to be vaccinated, it makes no sense not to. Restrictions and passports and whatnot. It shits me. But there's no battle worth fighting here. Not when I have emergency surgery where my life is on the line and I just trust the docs.

And I trust the butcher and the baker and the guy who did the spokes on my bike. The guy that built the piston.

It shits me that the governments, businesses and the stadiums and the networks have taken the stance they have.

It shits me that my body tried to kill me.

Do or don't get vaxxed. I support you totally if you choose not to. Choose your battles.

This is what people aren’t understanding..

Every aspect of the Covid narrative from the government and the media is a demonstrable lie, lie by omission or half truth..best case scenario is an accidental release of a taxpayer funded virus was used to consolidate power and $ to large corporations and usher in tighter government control and the coming “new Bretton Woods” in which your financial and medical ID are linked in a social credit system where your ability to travel and transact freely is restricted. That’s literally what the people that print the money are saying..

if you think just rolling over and submitting is the way to go you are sorely mistaken..it’s never going “back to normal” they’ve said as much themselves..give it a couple months, they will be clamping down harder than before..all you have to do is stop complying, they are powerless without your consent.
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flarider wrote:
May be an alternative soon? Merck announced Friday that an experimental pill it developed to treat covid-19 reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly...
May be an alternative soon?


Merck announced Friday that an experimental pill it developed to treat covid-19 reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by nearly half in a clinical trial.

An independent board of experts monitoring the trial recommended the study be stopped early because of the positive results, a significant and telling step in a pharmaceutical study.

Merck and partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics said in a news release they would apply for emergency use authorization for the drug, molnupiravir, in the United States as soon as possible. It would be the first antiviral pill for covid-19.

A simple, easy-to-prescribe pill that prevents mild and moderate cases of covid-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, from turning into dire episodes has been one of the missing pieces of the medical armamentarium to fight the virus.

Merck has already begun producing molnupiravir. The small brown capsules must be taken twice a day for five days. The company predicts it will make 10 million courses of treatment by the end of the year. The U.S. government made an advance purchase of 1.7 million doses of the drug at a cost of $1.2 billion.
Robgvx wrote:
I’m not taking something that I don’t know what’s in it or, or has not been tested properly.

#sarcasm
was getting ready to send your book back!! 🤣

#ThatWasFunny......
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