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hubbardmx50
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8/21/2021 9:26am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2021 9:28am
You guys are awesome. I don’t even know who to reply to first. I always see you guys posting in the moto section but don’t know much about y’all. So it’s cool to get some background on your stories and what you guys currently do. Everyone who replied seems successful in their own right. Blue collar, white collar, it doesn’t matter. The world needs all kinds of people. Thanks again for the advice everybody It seriously means so much. And trust me, with everything going on in the world, I have it really good. I have running water and a roof over my head. I try not to get too far into the victim mentality, but sometimes you just want to have a pity party for yourself. So instead of doing that I came here. Fall classes start next week, and while im scared and intimidated of these upper division courses, im going balls to the wall. Id rather die than not get this thing done.
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sumdood
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8/21/2021 9:32am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2021 9:33am
That’s the attitude I’m talking about ! Pin it to win it fucker you got this !! 💪
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kongols
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8/21/2021 9:51am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2021 9:52am
You guys are awesome. I don’t even know who to reply to first. I always see you guys posting in the moto section but don’t know...
You guys are awesome. I don’t even know who to reply to first. I always see you guys posting in the moto section but don’t know much about y’all. So it’s cool to get some background on your stories and what you guys currently do. Everyone who replied seems successful in their own right. Blue collar, white collar, it doesn’t matter. The world needs all kinds of people. Thanks again for the advice everybody It seriously means so much. And trust me, with everything going on in the world, I have it really good. I have running water and a roof over my head. I try not to get too far into the victim mentality, but sometimes you just want to have a pity party for yourself. So instead of doing that I came here. Fall classes start next week, and while im scared and intimidated of these upper division courses, im going balls to the wall. Id rather die than not get this thing done.
Right on!!! Later in life when you`ll encounter some real shit in life, you`ll laugh about younger yourself and think- man, those days were easy.
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hubbardmx50
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8/21/2021 10:24am
You guys are awesome. I don’t even know who to reply to first. I always see you guys posting in the moto section but don’t know...
You guys are awesome. I don’t even know who to reply to first. I always see you guys posting in the moto section but don’t know much about y’all. So it’s cool to get some background on your stories and what you guys currently do. Everyone who replied seems successful in their own right. Blue collar, white collar, it doesn’t matter. The world needs all kinds of people. Thanks again for the advice everybody It seriously means so much. And trust me, with everything going on in the world, I have it really good. I have running water and a roof over my head. I try not to get too far into the victim mentality, but sometimes you just want to have a pity party for yourself. So instead of doing that I came here. Fall classes start next week, and while im scared and intimidated of these upper division courses, im going balls to the wall. Id rather die than not get this thing done.
kongols wrote:
Right on!!! Later in life when you`ll encounter some real shit in life, you`ll laugh about younger yourself and think- man, those days were easy.
Yeah I know, it’s going to get worse. I’m trying to enjoy everything as much as I can. I shouldn’t complain but sometimes I still do.

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8/21/2021 10:38am
Shit man, I’m 48 and still don’t know what I wanna be if/when I grow up. The good part is I’ve learned enough through the years to get paid pretty well for what I do. Bad part, I don’t necessarily enjoy it. Props to those who make a good living doing what they love. I just don’t think I could love doing anything if I had to do it everyday.
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hubbardmx50
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8/21/2021 10:52am Edited Date/Time 8/21/2021 11:15am
reded301 wrote:
Shit man, I’m 48 and still don’t know what I wanna be if/when I grow up. The good part is I’ve learned enough through the years...
Shit man, I’m 48 and still don’t know what I wanna be if/when I grow up. The good part is I’ve learned enough through the years to get paid pretty well for what I do. Bad part, I don’t necessarily enjoy it. Props to those who make a good living doing what they love. I just don’t think I could love doing anything if I had to do it everyday.
Looks like we’re in the same boat. I don’t think you need to absolutely love what you do for a living. You just need to find something that doesn’t make you totally miserable. And just hope that by the time it burns you out completely it’ll be time to retire anyways.

Riding and following moto is what I love, but I’d rather keep that on the side for fun. Everyone I know who works in the industry has quit riding and almost resents the sport.
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8/21/2021 11:08am
Except some fortunate unicorns, every job is a grind, or it becomes a grind. Treat it for what it is- a job. That needs to be done. Attitude is everything.
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8/21/2021 11:04pm
What's up guys. Maybe some on here know but most probably don't. I'm a full time college student and have been for about 4 years now...
What's up guys. Maybe some on here know but most probably don't. I'm a full time college student and have been for about 4 years now. I've been working really hard on my degree (not saying what it is to avoid going off on a tangent, but maybe I will later) and I'm about 9 classes away from graduating. For most families that would be super exciting news. So why am I hating life and my family currently?

The online stuff has been great for some, but I have really been struggling with it to the point where I just about lost my Fu$%ing mind last week when I found out we weren't going back in person for spring. Got to love communist California.

Anyways it got me thinking. If I'm working this hard on just the degree itself, am I going to hate my life when I actually get to my career? Should I seriously consider doing something else? The thing that motivates me is having nice bikes, a house etc. in the future, not the money itself. And if I'm working even harder than I am right now, will I even want to ride? And If I don't want to ride, why do I need to have a stressful lucrative career when I could just go back to my old job working the call center at my local dealership?

It's funny because those lower level jobs are what motivated me to get an education. Back to square one?

So enough with the victim mentality millennial college kid rant LOL. I guess my question to those of you guys who are in your careers would be, how do you do it? Do you still want to go to the track after working 50-60 hrs or are you just too physically and mentally exhausted, wishing you had an easier career for less pay?
I'm not sure what type of work you are looking for, but I work in construction. It beats you up, but I would not trade it for anything else. I get to work outside, go from job to job. I can't be stuck in an office. I get to build stuff and feel good about hard work.

Finish your degree is my advice. But whatever you do, work hard. My advice is to treat your work like it's your own company: you want it to succeed and so take pride in what you do. Don't just be there for a paycheck.
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8/22/2021 1:52am
I changed degrees three times but never once regretted finishing it. What you do after is another choice again, but finish it, because the likelihood you ever go back if you don’t is fuck all… even if it somehow doesn’t affect your career (which it likely will) you will 100% regret it later.

Life is long, and short. This is one of the times it is long.
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8/22/2021 3:46am
Hi Hubbard,

Just wanted to give you a shout-out. My kids are your age and struggling with similar thoughts.

The fact you are prepared to put it out there tells me you are prepared to tackle some of the more difficult stages of life and not run. Keep up the fight.

I can only give advice from my experience, but will quote my dad who is in his late 70's. "you can only make decisions with the information that you have at the time, sometimes we get it wrong". Listen to people who you respect, don't be afraid to ask questions of people who are in careers or positions that you would potentially like to be in. In my experience most people are happy to tell of their pathway and what worked and what didn't.

As most of the guys have said, finish your degree, you will never appreciate the doors that will open if you don't finish it. I have tried to tell my kids, 'learn how to learn. If you can master that skill, it won't really matter what your qualifications are, you can use your first degree as a stepping stone to your next career move. As an employer, I notice this about people who have worked for me.

I have 3 Bachelors degree's, I finished my last one part-time with a young family 15 years ago, I don't really use any of them anymore. One thing is for sure, I wouldn't be in the position I am now without any of the skills and experiences they afforded me at the time. One of the previous comments said that he doesn't know what he wants to do when he grows up at 48. I use that all the time even though I am a little older than that.

One of the most important things to do during all the craziness that we have going on in the world now is to look after yourself. Find something that puts a smile on your face and make it happen. It took me a long time to learn that.

I think you will be fine. Before you know it you will be looking back on this part of your life with fondness.









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8/22/2021 5:42am
Nursing will suck the soul right from your body much as described how law sucks the soul from others. If you wanna be treated as an apprentice you’re entire career go into nursing.
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8/22/2021 7:15am
I work in IT as an equipment tech for the city. I am one of the people who gets the call to make it go when it breaks. I like it because every day is different and I get to use my critical thinking skills all the time. Some days I’m troubleshooting connectivity issues on access control systems and others I am programming a paging system or fixing Poe cameras or even setting up shortwave microwave antennas. Just never know and I like it that way.

I don’t have my degree and the road I traveled to arrive here included getting a journeyman’s electrical license a bunch of certificates and having over 15 years experience in various electrical/mechanical positions.
My advise is not to limit yourself to one niche. Be flexible and do your best to learn a bit about everything. You may stumble onto something you truly enjoy by exploring a little. Also think about finding a job that pays decent and provides you a pension. One day you will want to retire and I don’t think you want to retire on a social security wage.

Finish your degree! It will get your foot in the door. Then your skills will keep you there.


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8/22/2021 7:33am
Also… this is likely not gonna be the last time you might need to study to progress in life.

Definitely better being a step along the Lilly pads so to speak.
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8/22/2021 7:41am Edited Date/Time 8/22/2021 7:52am
I was that guy that never really had a plan, graduated high school and went to work bouncing around as a helper for all kinds of construction trades. I polished and sanded surfboards, built patio covers, worked as a plumbers helper for a while on and off, installed solar for a few years (not electric, swimming pool and domestic hot water heating) then was working for a pool builder and as the pools were being finished I started my own service business. While I was building the route I worked nights as a janitor / night time pool maintenance guy at Laguna hills high school. I’d get up at 6:00am, work until about one or so, and go to work from 230 to 11 at night at the high school. Then when I was completely physically maxed out I quit the high school job and did the route full-time. At one point in time I took over a retail swimming pool supply store from a guy who was retiring, and the route started taking off from there, when Price club Costco and the hardware stores started selling pool chemicals and supplies the mom and pop pool shop was no longer profitable so we got rid of the shop and then I was full time on my own. 40 years later my biggest problem is keeping up with the work we have (knock on wood) and finding decent guys to hire. I know I one hundred percent dumb lucked my way into being able to own a home in San Clemente. My dad always told me whatever you do be the best at it no matter what it is, and don’t be afraid to work, “90% of life is showing up” Mine isn’t really a path I would recommend, but I never really found that job I “loved”, But once I started making it on my own and not taking orders or having a “boss” I was motivated to put in the hours and build it into something to where I can make a comfortable living, I was able to buy a home. toys, and go on vacations etc. We’re far from rich and we work our ass off but we’re pretty far from poor too.
Whew Long post sorry. So obviously you’re going to get your degree and then from there I really hope you find something you enjoy doing, if you like the work it’s not really “work” Just keep getting up and charging every day and getting the most out of every day you can, you’re gonna kill it dude. I’ve hired and fired lots of guys over the years and can tell you have a go for attitude. You’re gonna kill it no matter what you do because you’re not afraid to dive in and work. It’s just your life. Charge !! Wink
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8/22/2021 9:54am
Wow. My dad has a degree and tons of certifications, but over the years always seemed to have been against me getting a degree. He's from...
Wow. My dad has a degree and tons of certifications, but over the years always seemed to have been against me getting a degree. He's from the school of thought that hard work and "real skills" are all you need, and that a degree in this day and age is more or less useless. That's funny that your brother in law feels the exact opposite. I always thought that a degree in anything related to STEM or Business couldn't hurt. Which is another reason I chose IT. I'm a pragmatic over-thinker.

Facebook you say? So your brother in law sold his soul to the Zuck? Wink Laughing All jokes aside sounds like he's quite successful.
You are on the right track for your degree. If you were after a Middles Ages Lesbian Dance Theory degree I would agree with your dad. You can go do anything that interests you after you graduate. Many employers are just looking to see if you have the focus and determination to complete a college education.
I retired from Los Angeles County FD and worked with people that had degrees from fields ranging far and wide from some prestigious schools. The only thing I think I never saw was a medical degree. I however got hired with just over the minimum requirements. Those people with degrees usually made it into some niche on the department where their degrees were an asset. I wish I had the composition skills to give my subordinates their due on annual performance evaluations.
Stay with it. You can come up for air when you have that diploma and have another look around. Be prepared to work in the trenches gaining some practical experience in your degreed field.
I wish I had what it took to get a proper education.
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8/22/2021 11:55am
Cool thread.

@hubbard - I think you’re on a good path. An IT degree is extremely useful in this day and age. One piece of advice is to be prepared to shift and learn new things as you navigate your career. Once you’re in the work force and gain some experience you will probably be able to see what you like/dislike in your field. If you can, seek out a mentor - someone who’s career and path you admire. You’d be surprised to find how many people with experience and success are willing to help a young person like yourself if you just show the drive and initiative to want to learn and grow. Find any networking groups or professional organizations in your field.

It’s said all the time (especially on here about the moto industry) but pretty much any industry or line of work can rely heavily on relationships and who you know. You can go far in life simply by connections. Always keep that in mind. Some jobs will suck, others will be awesome. But you can learn from both situations

You mentioned you were concerned about overworking and not enough time for Moto/hobbies but many of the IT and System Management people I know work remotely (even before covid) so logging 50 hour weeks for “the man” may not have to be the norm. Also, nowadays there’s tremendous potential out there for being your own boss, learn to run and manage the IT for small businesses in your area. Stack 4-5 clients like that and you can probably make a good living. That’s basically what I have done (not in IT though)
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8/22/2021 10:44pm
Sounds like you need to rock out , drop penny wise straight ahead cd on. Or puddle of mud, control, physco, blurry song. Bush chemicals between us, etc. Be your favorite someone, be yourself. Every move forward is a step closer to a win. Couple of my phrases. I made this test up. What would you think of yourself today. If a 9 yr old you stood in front of you. If it’s not good you need to work on some changes.
8/23/2021 3:17am
Pro your post is oddly different. No commas where the periods are etc…what gives ?
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8/23/2021 5:50am
What's up guys. Maybe some on here know but most probably don't. I'm a full time college student and have been for about 4 years now...
What's up guys. Maybe some on here know but most probably don't. I'm a full time college student and have been for about 4 years now. I've been working really hard on my degree (not saying what it is to avoid going off on a tangent, but maybe I will later) and I'm about 9 classes away from graduating. For most families that would be super exciting news. So why am I hating life and my family currently?

The online stuff has been great for some, but I have really been struggling with it to the point where I just about lost my Fu$%ing mind last week when I found out we weren't going back in person for spring. Got to love communist California.

Anyways it got me thinking. If I'm working this hard on just the degree itself, am I going to hate my life when I actually get to my career? Should I seriously consider doing something else? The thing that motivates me is having nice bikes, a house etc. in the future, not the money itself. And if I'm working even harder than I am right now, will I even want to ride? And If I don't want to ride, why do I need to have a stressful lucrative career when I could just go back to my old job working the call center at my local dealership?

It's funny because those lower level jobs are what motivated me to get an education. Back to square one?

So enough with the victim mentality millennial college kid rant LOL. I guess my question to those of you guys who are in your careers would be, how do you do it? Do you still want to go to the track after working 50-60 hrs or are you just too physically and mentally exhausted, wishing you had an easier career for less pay?
The career and life advice you've gotten on this thread so far is mostly great and good to take to heart.

I may be totally off-base with this, but what I'll bring up is how some of what you said sounds a lot like myself and my thoughts when I was going through my university years. Don't ignore your mental health.

Depression is not a one size fits all and affects people's thinking in strange and different ways. Having goals is a great thing and it truly can help with depression, but if achieving them is the end game, keep in mind it might not be the turning point you expect. Recognizing it can be a huge benefit though no matter how mild or severe it might be.

It isn't a weakness and does not make you a victim to reach out, especially if/when thoughts begin to spiral.

So if I'm wrong, I hope this doesn't get taken the wrong way. If I am on the right track, know that recognizing and accepting that it exists gives you power you might not have had before and really can make a difference.
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8/23/2021 12:47pm
Pro your post is oddly different. No commas where the periods are etc…what gives ?
Lithium. 😉
8/23/2021 1:09pm
Brad460 wrote:
Finish your degree and go start an apprenticeship as an electrician or plumber. Or go to nursing school- you can get flexible schedules (12 hr shifts)...
Finish your degree and go start an apprenticeship as an electrician or plumber.

Or go to nursing school- you can get flexible schedules (12 hr shifts) and make six figures (in WI).
3rd year apprentice electrician in the IBEW here. What he said. When you top out you can take your ticket and work anywhere. You're in California so you're already in a good union state.
8/23/2021 9:14pm
Pro your post is oddly different. No commas where the periods are etc…what gives ?
My crappy apple phone did a auto update. Now I have enhanced sentence booster helper. I just made those 2 phrases up. Bored doing laundry, posting here. A lot of buses with illegals here. Beaten by Texas roads hit a deep hole front end landed in the next lane. Knocked the steer out of balance. Another driver broke a pitman arm and crashed 4 other trucks into a ditch. Sat Tennessee rain I lost time, but made it to larado- Mexico.
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8/23/2021 11:32pm
Pro your post is oddly different. No commas where the periods are etc…what gives ?
Chance1216 wrote:
Lithium. 😉
Not me I,m sure my dad had it tho along with shock treatment 71-76 in and out of the insane asylum. I just got 4 ko,s after kindergarten because I wasn’t invisible or the way I was eating. The 3rd I couldn’t get up, so he grabbed me and slammed me on the chair and ko again. A lot worse beatings than that always happened. Anything he got his hands on, including a cow strap with a medal rod. Someone did call the county nurse that was a joke. They ask how did you get these injuries they knew. I couldn’t tell them so they said I was deaf, because I refused to speak.Everyone knew including both grand parents world war 2 vets. One American he was shot in the arm, the other Dutch was in a nazi prison camp. He hated guns yet bought 1 and had it loaded for my dad. No one did anything so you know your on your own, just work on pain tolerence. I was always his shadow on the farm, had to go with him when he would attack some farmer. I knew it was wrong and warned him , that you can not do that to people. it’s a mystery on who committed him the last time. I think it was our priest at confession I said I swore alot, etc he would ask why and I told him. Anyway he gets 7 months in a big insane asylum. He still wants to kill us, my Mom divorced him. Now i had to run the dairy farm at 9 all the field work ,driving,etc we had help milking cows. The farm is sold I worked for the guy at 11 I bought a cow Suzy. 40 yrs later I found out my grandpa gave us that cow in 73. My cow has a bull calf , I feed it for a few weeks then loaded it up and sell it. Bailing hay for all the neighbor farmers I was stacking up the money in the bank. In 8 th grade I was walking my 10 th grade girlfriend home a couple army guys called me a punk rock blank and my girl a slut. I flipped them off cars locks up the brakes they get out to beat me. I ended beating them, I knew I had to change deprogram the violent past not easy to do , but I did it. I started stuttering at 8 practiced and cleared that up. Lesson people really don’t care if they fear for there safety, they will just take care of themselves even your own Mother I think that helped me in life and being a 23 yr old foreman at the biggest pipeline co in America . Dealing with union strikes out east, our Vietnam vet job cordinater not being able to handle meeting with the Phily , Jersey mob to pay them weekly. I say I,ll handle it I respect everyone so I,m not worried about nothing. just another thing to do today.
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8/24/2021 1:09am
Damn, Pro, I had it rough back in a day, but you beat me with this one.
8/24/2021 10:15pm
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Damn, Pro, I had it rough back in a day, but you beat me with this one.
You just think of ways to get threw it. I was still a funny kid your imagination lets you escape. Being a Scorpio you plan ahead. I rush to get my chores done keep track of the time and when he gets home. If we are getting equipment out for field work. What he will hv me do and my escape route if anything goes wrong. Basically monitor him every second, nothing has to go wrong for him to explode tho . I got shingles from the stress at 8 yrs old from being in a war constantly. largest cattle prod he could find, straps, ropes, old electrical cords, etc he had them everywhere. I grabbed some and burnt them with the garbage. Kids today hv it worse there parents on drugs torture and kill them. The American law makers say it doesn’t happen. Look up Lattie McGee, Anthony Avalos, AJ all 4-10 yr olds and many others tortured and killed.
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8/25/2021 6:23am
reded301 wrote:
Shit man, I’m 48 and still don’t know what I wanna be if/when I grow up. The good part is I’ve learned enough through the years...
Shit man, I’m 48 and still don’t know what I wanna be if/when I grow up. The good part is I’ve learned enough through the years to get paid pretty well for what I do. Bad part, I don’t necessarily enjoy it. Props to those who make a good living doing what they love. I just don’t think I could love doing anything if I had to do it everyday.
53. Exactly how I feel.
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8/25/2021 7:18am
Not sure if I can call this 'advice' but I dropped out of college, worked in the motorsports industry for 7 years, travelled the world, hardly made any money. I got hurt and the business shutdown within two months. I now work in life insurance, doing fairly well in a job that college literally would not have helped get. I would have been making the same money but with no life experience and most likely student debt.
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8/25/2021 11:22am
I'm 41, divorced, 3 kids, mechanical engineering degree, in middle management for building design - here are my thoughts on your specific questions:


Anyways it got me thinking. If I'm working this hard on just the degree itself, am I going to hate my life when I actually get to my career? Should I seriously consider doing something else?

You have complete control over your happiness in life. Put yourself first and never give up that power.

You won't know now if you will like what you are going to do, or not. You have to try. Then be flexible and react. You probably won't hit the nail on the head the first time. You'll have to shift - maybe small shifts, maybe big ones.

And if I'm working even harder than I am right now, will I even want to ride?

Hell yes you will!!! You'll want to ride more if your job energizes you. You will be energized by challenge and passion.
Paychecks are surprisingly un-energizing. Take care of your body too - sleep, exercise, diet - these will either give you more energy or less.

You can set your life up so it all funnels into energy for your passions. It's up to you.

Do you still want to go to the track after working 50-60 hrs or are you just too physically and mentally exhausted, wishing you had an easier career for less pay?

I've only wished for a more challenging career. I still want to ride at the end of the day.

The things that exhaust me are doing laundry, working on cars, grocery shopping, cleaning my house, etc.

We all go through down times, and times when we're frustrated. You don't have to kick ass every day. But try to kick ass more often then you don't.

It might be good for you to set some long term goals, then break those down into manageable steps so you can see reasonable progress and regularly accomplish something important to you.
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FIREfish148
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8/25/2021 1:48pm
Drop your classes and join a union trade if you want to make good money.
I dropped out of high school my senior year and went to a motorcycle mechanics school in Kirkland to become a moto mechanic. Got a job building airplanes instead. Here I am 10 years later making more money than most of the kids that stayed in school and went to universities.
I’m not against schools but college debt is ridiculous, trade schools are where it’s at IMO.
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8/25/2021 2:14pm
Pro your post is oddly different. No commas where the periods are etc…what gives ?
Chance1216 wrote:
Lithium. 😉
Not me I,m sure my dad had it tho along with shock treatment 71-76 in and out of the insane asylum. I just got 4 ko,s...
Not me I,m sure my dad had it tho along with shock treatment 71-76 in and out of the insane asylum. I just got 4 ko,s after kindergarten because I wasn’t invisible or the way I was eating. The 3rd I couldn’t get up, so he grabbed me and slammed me on the chair and ko again. A lot worse beatings than that always happened. Anything he got his hands on, including a cow strap with a medal rod. Someone did call the county nurse that was a joke. They ask how did you get these injuries they knew. I couldn’t tell them so they said I was deaf, because I refused to speak.Everyone knew including both grand parents world war 2 vets. One American he was shot in the arm, the other Dutch was in a nazi prison camp. He hated guns yet bought 1 and had it loaded for my dad. No one did anything so you know your on your own, just work on pain tolerence. I was always his shadow on the farm, had to go with him when he would attack some farmer. I knew it was wrong and warned him , that you can not do that to people. it’s a mystery on who committed him the last time. I think it was our priest at confession I said I swore alot, etc he would ask why and I told him. Anyway he gets 7 months in a big insane asylum. He still wants to kill us, my Mom divorced him. Now i had to run the dairy farm at 9 all the field work ,driving,etc we had help milking cows. The farm is sold I worked for the guy at 11 I bought a cow Suzy. 40 yrs later I found out my grandpa gave us that cow in 73. My cow has a bull calf , I feed it for a few weeks then loaded it up and sell it. Bailing hay for all the neighbor farmers I was stacking up the money in the bank. In 8 th grade I was walking my 10 th grade girlfriend home a couple army guys called me a punk rock blank and my girl a slut. I flipped them off cars locks up the brakes they get out to beat me. I ended beating them, I knew I had to change deprogram the violent past not easy to do , but I did it. I started stuttering at 8 practiced and cleared that up. Lesson people really don’t care if they fear for there safety, they will just take care of themselves even your own Mother I think that helped me in life and being a 23 yr old foreman at the biggest pipeline co in America . Dealing with union strikes out east, our Vietnam vet job cordinater not being able to handle meeting with the Phily , Jersey mob to pay them weekly. I say I,ll handle it I respect everyone so I,m not worried about nothing. just another thing to do today.
While your incoherent ramblings are somewhat entertaining, perhaps you could keep them restricted to one of the 100 new threads Johnny Depp creates each day and leave the serious threads alone.
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