Anybody tried the Xtrig FlexFix bar mount?

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Edited Date/Time 12/5/2021 4:33am
Has anybody tried the new FlexFix bar mount from Xtrig?
I've seen a few pros (e.g. AC) run it, but can't find a review or something.



I've been running the PHDS for years, but I have problems with numb fingers from vibration through the handlebars and was wondering if the new mount could help with that.
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Have you thought about flexx bars or the 360 mount ? Both seem popular in off road.
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What bars and grips do you use?
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Motofinne wrote:
What bars and grips do you use?
Fat Bar and the new Emig Pro V2s. It's a little better when I run Renthal Soft grips, but I love the simplicity of the lock-on grips.
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nascarnate326 wrote:
Have you thought about flexx bars or the 360 mount ? Both seem popular in off road.
You can't buy the 360 mount in Europe and, I think, the Flex Bar is more about impact absorbtion than vibration damping.
I like to have a direct input and precise steering and just want to get rid of the vibration.

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Motofinne 2/4/2020 4:05am
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Motofinne wrote:
What bars and grips do you use?
#434 wrote:
Fat Bar and the new Emig Pro V2s. It's a little better when I run Renthal Soft grips, but I love the simplicity of the lock-on...
Fat Bar and the new Emig Pro V2s. It's a little better when I run Renthal Soft grips, but I love the simplicity of the lock-on grips.
Try Pro Tapers lock on grips, much closer to normal grips compared to the ODI lock on grips in my opinion. I use the pillowtop pattern.

And if that doesn't help, try out the Pro Taper EVO bar. It's supposed to be one of the best bars on the market regarding limiting vibration/harshness.
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I like the flex fix mounts. Lighter, less bulky, and once mounted it's only a top clamp to remove the bars instead of multiple pieces. I'd say it's a little stiffer feel then phds but still has some dampening. Just make sure when you switch the round damper it seats in fully. Mine was pinching some material making my bars crooked. Took me a while to figure it out.
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#434 2/4/2020 4:38am
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Motofinne wrote:
What bars and grips do you use?
#434 wrote:
Fat Bar and the new Emig Pro V2s. It's a little better when I run Renthal Soft grips, but I love the simplicity of the lock-on...
Fat Bar and the new Emig Pro V2s. It's a little better when I run Renthal Soft grips, but I love the simplicity of the lock-on grips.
Motofinne wrote:
Try Pro Tapers lock on grips, much closer to normal grips compared to the ODI lock on grips in my opinion. I use the pillowtop pattern...
Try Pro Tapers lock on grips, much closer to normal grips compared to the ODI lock on grips in my opinion. I use the pillowtop pattern.

And if that doesn't help, try out the Pro Taper EVO bar. It's supposed to be one of the best bars on the market regarding limiting vibration/harshness.
Thanks man. Gonna try the ProTaper lock ons. A new bar is my last resort because I'm so used to the bend of the fat bars.
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I like the flex fix mounts. Lighter, less bulky, and once mounted it's only a top clamp to remove the bars instead of multiple pieces. I'd...
I like the flex fix mounts. Lighter, less bulky, and once mounted it's only a top clamp to remove the bars instead of multiple pieces. I'd say it's a little stiffer feel then phds but still has some dampening. Just make sure when you switch the round damper it seats in fully. Mine was pinching some material making my bars crooked. Took me a while to figure it out.
Thanks for the info!!
I actually would like to have a bar mount that provides a precise feel. I just want to get rid of most of the vibration. I know that that's probably not possible altogether but the design of the flexfix just makes sense to me.
Can you feel a difference in vibration dampening between the PHDS and the FlexFit or is it a overall stiffer feel in comparison?
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#434 wrote:
Thanks for the info!! I actually would like to have a bar mount that provides a precise feel. I just want to get rid of most...
Thanks for the info!!
I actually would like to have a bar mount that provides a precise feel. I just want to get rid of most of the vibration. I know that that's probably not possible altogether but the design of the flexfix just makes sense to me.
Can you feel a difference in vibration dampening between the PHDS and the FlexFit or is it a overall stiffer feel in comparison?
I have them on my 19 kx450 so vibration isn't an issue at all couldn't say. I'm putting the phds that I took off on my 06 kx250 then I would know haha. Flex fix is more precise though from what I feel. I'm using the green which is the softest option. I tried the green rubbers on my phds one time and had to take them off from lack of feel.
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#434 wrote:
Thanks for the info!! I actually would like to have a bar mount that provides a precise feel. I just want to get rid of most...
Thanks for the info!!
I actually would like to have a bar mount that provides a precise feel. I just want to get rid of most of the vibration. I know that that's probably not possible altogether but the design of the flexfix just makes sense to me.
Can you feel a difference in vibration dampening between the PHDS and the FlexFit or is it a overall stiffer feel in comparison?
DB97 wrote:
I have them on my 19 kx450 so vibration isn't an issue at all couldn't say. I'm putting the phds that I took off on my...
I have them on my 19 kx450 so vibration isn't an issue at all couldn't say. I'm putting the phds that I took off on my 06 kx250 then I would know haha. Flex fix is more precise though from what I feel. I'm using the green which is the softest option. I tried the green rubbers on my phds one time and had to take them off from lack of feel.
I also use the green rubbers in my PHDS and it‘s too much movement for me.
I gonna try the FlexFix!
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dirtbikefreak 8/5/2021 7:34pm
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DB97 wrote:
I like the flex fix mounts. Lighter, less bulky, and once mounted it's only a top clamp to remove the bars instead of multiple pieces. I'd...
I like the flex fix mounts. Lighter, less bulky, and once mounted it's only a top clamp to remove the bars instead of multiple pieces. I'd say it's a little stiffer feel then phds but still has some dampening. Just make sure when you switch the round damper it seats in fully. Mine was pinching some material making my bars crooked. Took me a while to figure it out.
how do you mount the round damper piece in the mount? It seems impossible to do it
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DB97 wrote:
I like the flex fix mounts. Lighter, less bulky, and once mounted it's only a top clamp to remove the bars instead of multiple pieces. I'd...
I like the flex fix mounts. Lighter, less bulky, and once mounted it's only a top clamp to remove the bars instead of multiple pieces. I'd say it's a little stiffer feel then phds but still has some dampening. Just make sure when you switch the round damper it seats in fully. Mine was pinching some material making my bars crooked. Took me a while to figure it out.
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how do you mount the round damper piece in the mount? It seems impossible to do it
It’s a bit fiddly but you just work it in gently they do bend/flex a little. It’s a tight fit - getting it out is more difficult.
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Same issue, I run a pro taper evo bar and a renthal dual compound tapered grip. Only combination I’m comfortable with, definitely helps with the numbness.

Beyond that though, have you been checked for carpal tunnel? I know that’s what causes mine at the root of it
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In all honesty, I really wanted to try these but saw no reason to buy a set of triples for my crf450.

I went with the phds oem bar mounts. Feels tighter in the steering but definitely a noticeable difference in vibration and impact absorption.

Really wish Xtrig would make oem type flex fit mounts, they seem like they’d be amazing at vibration absorption even more.
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Yeti831 wrote:
In all honesty, I really wanted to try these but saw no reason to buy a set of triples for my crf450. I went with the...
In all honesty, I really wanted to try these but saw no reason to buy a set of triples for my crf450.

I went with the phds oem bar mounts. Feels tighter in the steering but definitely a noticeable difference in vibration and impact absorption.

Really wish Xtrig would make oem type flex fit mounts, they seem like they’d be amazing at vibration absorption even more.
I believe Luxon has posted on here that the PHDS system offers the same amount of dampening as the rubber OEM mount cones.
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Yeti831 8/7/2021 11:40am
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Yeti831 wrote:
In all honesty, I really wanted to try these but saw no reason to buy a set of triples for my crf450. I went with the...
In all honesty, I really wanted to try these but saw no reason to buy a set of triples for my crf450.

I went with the phds oem bar mounts. Feels tighter in the steering but definitely a noticeable difference in vibration and impact absorption.

Really wish Xtrig would make oem type flex fit mounts, they seem like they’d be amazing at vibration absorption even more.
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I believe Luxon has posted on here that the PHDS system offers the same amount of dampening as the rubber OEM mount cones.
Maybe for outright dampening, yes. However, with these mounting with solid cones, there’s definitely a more positive feel at the bars and impact absorption is better as well 🙂 also no tweaked bar mounts on tip overs.

Plus there’s different elastomers you can change out on the Xtrig. It’s a very different feel than stock. Otherwise I’d just sell them.
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nascarnate326 wrote:
Have you thought about flexx bars or the 360 mount ? Both seem popular in off road.
#434 wrote:
You can't buy the 360 mount in Europe and, I think, the Flex Bar is more about impact absorbtion than vibration damping. I like to have...
You can't buy the 360 mount in Europe and, I think, the Flex Bar is more about impact absorbtion than vibration damping.
I like to have a direct input and precise steering and just want to get rid of the vibration.
The 360 is overkill engineering and weighs as much as a dead donkey.
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I'll try the mounts next weekend if my new clamps get here in time, can't compare them to anything but the stock yamaha mounts thoUnsure
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Lynch 8/21/2021 6:00am
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Managed to test my clamps today along with my friends bike (same bike/model/year/suspension tuner/clamps). The only real difference being that he runs the PHDS bar clamps.

The PHDS clamps handle big hits better, for example if you overshoot something or ride into a sharp edge. Other than that they feel the same, if it's more comfort for your hands/arms you are looking for the PHDS clamps are better IMO.
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Lynch wrote:
Managed to test my clamps today along with my friends bike (same bike/model/year/suspension tuner/clamps). The only real difference being that he runs the PHDS bar clamps...
Managed to test my clamps today along with my friends bike (same bike/model/year/suspension tuner/clamps). The only real difference being that he runs the PHDS bar clamps.

The PHDS clamps handle big hits better, for example if you overshoot something or ride into a sharp edge. Other than that they feel the same, if it's more comfort for your hands/arms you are looking for the PHDS clamps are better IMO.
PHDS Clamps ?

X-Rig makes clamps and they also make the PHDS bar mounts. But the clamps aren’t going to help with vibration
Langhammx 8/21/2021 8:27pm
8/21/2021 8:27pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2021 8:30pm
If you’re trying to get rid of vibration, I’d suggest trying these before spending too much time and money on new bars/ etc

https://www.fasstco.com/products/anti-vibration-inserts

Or try some twisted engineering carbon bars, if the inserts aren’t what you’re looking for.
https://twistedengineering.com/
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Lynch wrote:
Managed to test my clamps today along with my friends bike (same bike/model/year/suspension tuner/clamps). The only real difference being that he runs the PHDS bar clamps...
Managed to test my clamps today along with my friends bike (same bike/model/year/suspension tuner/clamps). The only real difference being that he runs the PHDS bar clamps.

The PHDS clamps handle big hits better, for example if you overshoot something or ride into a sharp edge. Other than that they feel the same, if it's more comfort for your hands/arms you are looking for the PHDS clamps are better IMO.
Langhammx wrote:
PHDS Clamps ?

X-Rig makes clamps and they also make the PHDS bar mounts. But the clamps aren’t going to help with vibration
Xtrig Rocs clamps with PHDS mounts
A combo of being tired and not having english as my first language Wink
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Langhammx wrote:
If you’re trying to get rid of vibration, I’d suggest trying these before spending too much time and money on new bars/ etc https://www.fasstco.com/products/anti-vibration-inserts Or try...
If you’re trying to get rid of vibration, I’d suggest trying these before spending too much time and money on new bars/ etc

https://www.fasstco.com/products/anti-vibration-inserts

Or try some twisted engineering carbon bars, if the inserts aren’t what you’re looking for.
https://twistedengineering.com/
I can't say I can recommend Twisted Engineering bars. My friend spent a lot on these bars. A small crash from a jump had trashed them and nearly ruined the day. Fortunately we found someone withspare bars before the first moto. TE him offered a whole 20% off another set. I've sent bikes tumbling without having to do any more than readjust my levers using Pro Tapers.





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Langhammx wrote:
If you’re trying to get rid of vibration, I’d suggest trying these before spending too much time and money on new bars/ etc https://www.fasstco.com/products/anti-vibration-inserts Or try...
If you’re trying to get rid of vibration, I’d suggest trying these before spending too much time and money on new bars/ etc

https://www.fasstco.com/products/anti-vibration-inserts

Or try some twisted engineering carbon bars, if the inserts aren’t what you’re looking for.
https://twistedengineering.com/
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I can't say I can recommend Twisted Engineering bars. My friend spent a lot on these bars. A small crash from a jump had trashed them...
I can't say I can recommend Twisted Engineering bars. My friend spent a lot on these bars. A small crash from a jump had trashed them and nearly ruined the day. Fortunately we found someone withspare bars before the first moto. TE him offered a whole 20% off another set. I've sent bikes tumbling without having to do any more than readjust my levers using Pro Tapers.





Yikes! I just bought a set of these ... ugh. What generation are these?

I've been experimenting with Twisted Engeineering bars in PHDS mounts (with green elastomers) vs. MAKO 360 with OEM Yamaha Pro Taper bars versus Neken SFS clamps with OEM Yamaha Pro Tapers versus FasstCo Flaxxbars in Scotts billet clamps with rubber cones. These are on 4 different bikes, so I can compare them back-to-back.

If numbness is your issue, I think MAKO 360 mounts are the ticket.

I have not experimented with grips much because I get arm pump from larger diameter grips. I learned a long time ago I need full diamond pattern to minimize the diameter. I currently run ODI V2s. Clamp-on grips are nice and easy to experiment with, so I will try some Pro Tapers as mentioned above.
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Rider 5280 wrote:
Yikes! I just bought a set of these ... ugh. What generation are these? I've been experimenting with Twisted Engeineering bars in PHDS mounts (with green...
Yikes! I just bought a set of these ... ugh. What generation are these?

I've been experimenting with Twisted Engeineering bars in PHDS mounts (with green elastomers) vs. MAKO 360 with OEM Yamaha Pro Taper bars versus Neken SFS clamps with OEM Yamaha Pro Tapers versus FasstCo Flaxxbars in Scotts billet clamps with rubber cones. These are on 4 different bikes, so I can compare them back-to-back.

If numbness is your issue, I think MAKO 360 mounts are the ticket.

I have not experimented with grips much because I get arm pump from larger diameter grips. I learned a long time ago I need full diamond pattern to minimize the diameter. I currently run ODI V2s. Clamp-on grips are nice and easy to experiment with, so I will try some Pro Tapers as mentioned above.
That’s just the nature of carbon fiber bars. I rode/raced mtb for years and never ran carbon bars for that reason. Even a small scratch or your clamps on your levers being over tightened can compromise them. Had a carbon brake lever snap off and lacerate my calf 8” long to the bone in the middle of nowhere ..not worth it.
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