Long time 2 stroke rider considering 21 yzf250

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BroFoSho 3/10/2021 8:12am
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DB505 wrote:
The biggest or only drawback on the 250f is maintaining it, much more money just to to do a top end !
If he rides 30 hours a year, he'll be doing a top-end once every two-years lol
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dbx33 3/10/2021 9:59am
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I dont think anyone else mentioned it but you said you dont ride a lot and dont think you'll improve much. well if you put on some new graphics kit and some titanium bolts your pretty much guaranteed to drop laptimes
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BroFoSho 3/10/2021 10:39am
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You know, every now and then, I think I might want to get with the times and ride a 4-stroke. And every time I borrow a...
You know, every now and then, I think I might want to get with the times and ride a 4-stroke. And every time I borrow a buddy's or demo one, I am sorely disappointed. I truly think I will never get used to engine braking. It absolutely RUINS the moto experience for me. Seriously, if I had a choice to ride only a 4-stroke or not ride at all, I'd probably quit riding. It's that bad for me. I even raced a 250F for a year. I was disappointed every single day of ownership.
If you can ride a 4-stroke and not be horrified and disgusted with the handling, then go for it. As for me, I'll be mixing gas forever.
Was the same way when they started putting hydraulic disc brakes on bikes.
I truly think I will never get used to sensitive braking. It absolutely RUINS the moto experience for me. Seriously, if I had a choice to ride only a bike with disc brakes or not ride at all, I'd probably quit riding. It's that bad for me. I even raced a one for a year. I was disappointed every single day of ownership.
If you can ride hydraulic disk brakes and not be horrified and disgusted with the twitchy and sensitive braking, then go for it. As for me, I'll be using drum brakes forever.
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Falcon 3/10/2021 11:16am
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Falcon wrote:
You know, every now and then, I think I might want to get with the times and ride a 4-stroke. And every time I borrow a...
You know, every now and then, I think I might want to get with the times and ride a 4-stroke. And every time I borrow a buddy's or demo one, I am sorely disappointed. I truly think I will never get used to engine braking. It absolutely RUINS the moto experience for me. Seriously, if I had a choice to ride only a 4-stroke or not ride at all, I'd probably quit riding. It's that bad for me. I even raced a 250F for a year. I was disappointed every single day of ownership.
If you can ride a 4-stroke and not be horrified and disgusted with the handling, then go for it. As for me, I'll be mixing gas forever.
BroFoSho wrote:
Was the same way when they started putting hydraulic disc brakes on bikes. I truly think I will never get used to sensitive braking. It absolutely...
Was the same way when they started putting hydraulic disc brakes on bikes.
I truly think I will never get used to sensitive braking. It absolutely RUINS the moto experience for me. Seriously, if I had a choice to ride only a bike with disc brakes or not ride at all, I'd probably quit riding. It's that bad for me. I even raced a one for a year. I was disappointed every single day of ownership.
If you can ride hydraulic disk brakes and not be horrified and disgusted with the twitchy and sensitive braking, then go for it. As for me, I'll be using drum brakes forever.
Touche. Cool

For the record, I love disc brakes. I was riding bikes with drums and didn't complain when that improvement was made. Same with water cooling, piggyback shocks and power valves. None of those changes made me a slower rider, but 4-strokes have. (I am demonstrably faster on a 2-stroke, on every track, in all conditions.)
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Sc2 3/10/2021 1:08pm
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Get both and keeep you're yz (it won't loose any value) until you've made you're mind up

I bet over a moto, you're be quicker the 4t

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Skerby 3/10/2021 1:56pm
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What fuel are you guys running? I have access to non-eth pump, but have little reason to believe it would be much higher quality than eth pump, besides no ethanol? T4, VPR?

I remember injected 250fs are supposed to be pretty fuel efficient so not worried about cost till around 15/gallon
SandProtege 3/10/2021 6:37pm
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Bike feels pretty sick in the driveway lol. It's like a choppered out YZ 2 stroke, with wide radiator shrouds. I think it'll work out! I...
Bike feels pretty sick in the driveway lol. It's like a choppered out YZ 2 stroke, with wide radiator shrouds.

I think it'll work out! I should mention that I own a big bore Superjet as well, and as much as I wanted to open a yamaha 2 stroke museum; I probably spent 1500 dollars on VP 110 last summer, lol.
Pics of your sj?
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dedi684 3/10/2021 7:21pm
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Looked at a gas gas mc 250 today. If i can figure out what to do with the forks im going to get it. 20 years on yz's though i just wanna slap my sss on it. Lol
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Pirate421 3/10/2021 7:49pm
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dedi684 wrote:
Looked at a gas gas mc 250 today. If i can figure out what to do with the forks im going to get it. 20 years...
Looked at a gas gas mc 250 today. If i can figure out what to do with the forks im going to get it. 20 years on yz's though i just wanna slap my sss on it. Lol
I just did a set of Mx tech luckies on my 250xc they are incredible and the price that I paid was less than I was expecting which was really nice.
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JBecker 72 3/11/2021 2:17am
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Skerby wrote:
What fuel are you guys running? I have access to non-eth pump, but have little reason to believe it would be much higher quality than eth...
What fuel are you guys running? I have access to non-eth pump, but have little reason to believe it would be much higher quality than eth pump, besides no ethanol? T4, VPR?

I remember injected 250fs are supposed to be pretty fuel efficient so not worried about cost till around 15/gallon
93 pump Laughing
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Timo 3/11/2021 5:19am
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DB505 wrote:
The biggest or only drawback on the 250f is maintaining it, much more money just to to do a top end !
Timo wrote:
$120 YZ250 vs $140 YZ250F is definitely a game changer...
DB505 wrote:
Yes you can just replace the piston & rings, but what about all the other moving parts that also wear out? If you don’t replace them...
Yes you can just replace the piston & rings, but what about all the other moving parts that also wear out? If you don’t replace them also your rolling the dice!
Your choice!
What other parts are there to change? The valves on my last 250F had over 300 hours on them without issue. I did change my cam chain, but it wasn't out of spec, just thought I should. OEM chains are $17...
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Timo 3/11/2021 5:21am
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Timo wrote:
$120 YZ250 vs $140 YZ250F is definitely a game changer...
DB505 wrote:
Yes you can just replace the piston & rings, but what about all the other moving parts that also wear out? If you don’t replace them...
Yes you can just replace the piston & rings, but what about all the other moving parts that also wear out? If you don’t replace them also your rolling the dice!
Your choice!
JBecker 72 wrote:
Add a cam chain for another $40. You’ll spend a bit more in gaskets as well. But a top end on a four stroke is easy...
Add a cam chain for another $40. You’ll spend a bit more in gaskets as well. But a top end on a four stroke is easy and doesn’t cost a lot of money.
That $140 includes gaskets, and oem cam chain is $17 from RM.
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toddw12 3/11/2021 5:45am
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I just switched from a 19 YZ250 to a 2020 Yz450f. I’ve been a die hard two stroke guy for the past 15 years and I cannot believe it took me this long to get a 450. I still love two strokes but will not have one for my main bike.
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Skerby 3/11/2021 6:53am
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Skerby wrote:
Bike feels pretty sick in the driveway lol. It's like a choppered out YZ 2 stroke, with wide radiator shrouds. I think it'll work out! I...
Bike feels pretty sick in the driveway lol. It's like a choppered out YZ 2 stroke, with wide radiator shrouds.

I think it'll work out! I should mention that I own a big bore Superjet as well, and as much as I wanted to open a yamaha 2 stroke museum; I probably spent 1500 dollars on VP 110 last summer, lol.
SandProtege wrote:
Pics of your sj?
Nothing super special, wanted a surf standup but haven't worked up the balls to take it out in the ocean yet lol. I just wait till it's super windy and then go try and ride this buoy course on the lake, some of the best upper body traininjg for moto that I've done so far.



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