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My ol buddy Zap mentioned me when I gave my pint of beer to Bengt Aberg on the Carlsbad Fwy when his bike broke down and he rolled over to us. The crowd went wild! W00t

My pop owned a liquor store in downtown LA back in the day. Each yr we would bring kegs of beer to the event. This one yr we had FIVE KEGS OF HEINEKEIN!

Two for the night before and three for the race turned out to be the perfect combo... Three Dark and two Amber, I remember it like it was yesterday. One of the crew got so drunk he almost rolled onto the track, we yanked him back quickly before he got ran over.... lol


I'll never forget carting the kegs up the uphill in the morning, we had throngs of people wanting to join our pahtay....lol


CARLSBAD

ahhhh good times--those were the days my friend....
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My pop owned a liquor store in downtown LA back in the day. Each yr we would bring kegs of beer to the event. This one yr we had FIVE KEGS OF HEINEKEN!

I like your style!

I have many Carlsbad memories....first time I raced there was December of 87 on my 79 450 Wheelsmith Maico. A buddy of mine and I set up for the REM race and I didn't have directions to the track but had an idea where it was. Got down to Palomar exit and asked for directions....got them and the old guy said "good luck today!" I hadn't raced in a few years and it was cool he said that...you had to be there.

Could never get over how the uphill could be so muddy in practice but like pavement in the PM.

Only time I would do well there was on the rare times it was tacky. One hard packed day (there were so many) I got home and had done pretty well for a change on my 88 CR500 Honda....told my girlfriend I passed a lot of people late in the second moto...she said "great...how many of those people were on the ground?" :-)
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I have the 84 USGP sitting on my desktop, been meaning to upload it.
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grew up there as flag kid for larry..he would give us $5 and hot dogs and cokes for flagging
i met so many racers over the years

first race the 100cc class on a green streak..CMC,were the classes were packed

2 100 classes..6 125 classes,4 or 5 250 classes and a couple 500 classes

i was in a couple pile ups in my first moto ever..was following a guy on a 100 cc bultaco..came around the the top of the hill for the big ski jump and the guy rolled the jump,i just missed landing on his head and crashed trying to miss him..not bad for the first moto of my life

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I think we got a beer from you on Sat night. We were the people that would bring in the scaffold to sit on.
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6/17/2009 9:54am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:27am
G-man wrote:
My ol buddy Zap mentioned me when I gave my pint of beer to Bengt Aberg on the Carlsbad Fwy when his bike broke down and...
My ol buddy Zap mentioned me when I gave my pint of beer to Bengt Aberg on the Carlsbad Fwy when his bike broke down and he rolled over to us. The crowd went wild! W00t

My pop owned a liquor store in downtown LA back in the day. Each yr we would bring kegs of beer to the event. This one yr we had FIVE KEGS OF HEINEKEIN!

Two for the night before and three for the race turned out to be the perfect combo... Three Dark and two Amber, I remember it like it was yesterday. One of the crew got so drunk he almost rolled onto the track, we yanked him back quickly before he got ran over.... lol


I'll never forget carting the kegs up the uphill in the morning, we had throngs of people wanting to join our pahtay....lol


CARLSBAD

ahhhh good times--those were the days my friend....
the big bummer about losing tracks like carlsbad is this. that track never ever changed, they were too smart to try and add to it or change it. a legend of land and course in reality and perception. this mattered because you could actually see the speeds increase (or sometimes decrease) over the years and over the weather changes and over the different riders that have raced there.

can you imagine having magoos laptimes along with wolsinks and johnsons and bells and baileys and (if it was still in existence) RC's and james and alessis and rv's and....that would be some fuggen fodder for some bench racing sessions extraordindaire
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6/17/2009 9:58am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:27am
scottie, i got that somewhere too.

here's some other junk in the meantime.,..Wink

http://bobbymx.com/...CHOOL/usgp1979_1.wmv

http://bobbymx.com/...OOL/USGP_FOOTAGE.wmv

the other memory i have of carlsbad that stands out bigtime is the official california DOT sign that said USGP COURSE next right...or something like that off of I5. that almost sez motocross was bigger than than it is now....dontcha think?
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I saw Graham Noyce racing a Twin Shock just a few weeks ago, he must be pushing 60 now but he's still fast as hell!
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Back in I guess 77 or 78 my brother (yzvet426) and went from Chicago to Carlsbad for the Suzuki School of Motocross. Definitly one of the best memories of riding.
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Commotion by the Ocean..I used to live just 10 min from there in the late 80's through about 1996..Raced there a bunch..I remember watching Mike Healy and lamson battle for the win and healy jumping like 120' on the table across from the stands to pass lammy but lamson came back ..That place has some series downhills
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the other memory i have of carlsbad that stands out bigtime is the official california DOT sign that said USGP COURSE next right...or something like that off of I5. that almost sez motocross was bigger than than it is now....dontcha think?


Yeah, it was known as the fastest growing sport in the US. My HS had a team after I graduated in 72..... I was pissed.
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fcr wrote:
[i] the other memory i have of carlsbad that stands out bigtime is the official california DOT sign that said USGP COURSE next right...or something like...

the other memory i have of carlsbad that stands out bigtime is the official california DOT sign that said USGP COURSE next right...or something like that off of I5. that almost sez motocross was bigger than than it is now....dontcha think?


Yeah, it was known as the fastest growing sport in the US. My HS had a team after I graduated in 72..... I was pissed.
yep,CMC was just packed every race..30 riders in each class,3 motos a day
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09450f wrote:
yep,CMC was just packed every race..30 riders in each class,3 motos a day
Three months after my Carlsbad debut on my Maico I returned with my new 88 CR500 Honda for my first CMC race.

There were over 800 riders
and I had to park not too far past the gate house. It was two motos by then though.....ran into an old Ohio buddy of mine at that race, Bob Sullivan, and we did a lot of racing together after that and still go to the pro races together.
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This race is one I remember from back in the day...Bobby M and I were both hauling ass that day...it was so long ago that Bob had both legs!

That's what I'm talking about!

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i live 2 minutes from the track.. or whats left of it. You can still see the finish line.. everything else is now a god damn office building for business park.
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I went to the "Official Suzuki School of Motocross back in 1980 as a 16 year old teenager. Raced at the CMC Carlsbad events as an 250 Int., and had the honor to attend MM win the USGP.... that day was SO COOL. MM did us proud that day... Great times.






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09450f wrote:
yep,CMC was just packed every race..30 riders in each class,3 motos a day
I just started racing in 77, and yes the gates were packed back then. Sometimes they had three classes of 125 Juniors!





That’s some fast company you and Bobby were competing with Bauer.
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My favorite memory of Carlsbad is Marty Moates winning the 500 USGP. That was the year I got my first bike and it was in every MX magazine. Then a few months later I got to watch it on TV! And people complain today about tape delayed coverage..
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Wandell wrote:
My favorite memory of Carlsbad is Marty Moates winning the 500 USGP. That was the year I got my first bike and it was in every...
My favorite memory of Carlsbad is Marty Moates winning the 500 USGP. That was the year I got my first bike and it was in every MX magazine. Then a few months later I got to watch it on TV! And people complain today about tape delayed coverage..
RIP MARTY!!
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09450f wrote:
yep,CMC was just packed every race..30 riders in each class,3 motos a day
G-man wrote:
I just started racing in 77, and yes the gates were packed back then. Sometimes they had three classes of 125 Juniors! [IMG]https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1601/2005756/3881394/367333542.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1601/2005756/4243431/300238058.jpg[/IMG] That’s some...
I just started racing in 77, and yes the gates were packed back then. Sometimes they had three classes of 125 Juniors!





That’s some fast company you and Bobby were competing with Bauer.
gary, wouldn't you say that motocross was more popular back then on the local and possibly the national level too? routinely 500-800 riders on a weekend raceday...wow.
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More tracks open on any given weekend now. No?
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09450f wrote:
yep,CMC was just packed every race..30 riders in each class,3 motos a day
G-man wrote:
I just started racing in 77, and yes the gates were packed back then. Sometimes they had three classes of 125 Juniors! [IMG]https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1601/2005756/3881394/367333542.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1601/2005756/4243431/300238058.jpg[/IMG] That’s some...
I just started racing in 77, and yes the gates were packed back then. Sometimes they had three classes of 125 Juniors!





That’s some fast company you and Bobby were competing with Bauer.
BobbyM wrote:
gary, wouldn't you say that motocross was more popular back then on the local and possibly the national level too? routinely 500-800 riders on a weekend...
gary, wouldn't you say that motocross was more popular back then on the local and possibly the national level too? routinely 500-800 riders on a weekend raceday...wow.
Its the same here also Bobby.
The tracks will claim 3-400 riders but most everyone is riding at least 2 classes and they are still not getting in more than 20 min. of track time.
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6/17/2009 1:41pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:28am
Good thread...

My parents and I went a few times in the 70's and 80's.

Fortunate enough to be there when Marty won.

I still have all the programs from the races, one with BobbyM listed in there too...

Both of my parents are gone now, but good memories from the races...

A couple of years ago my wife and I took the kids to Legoland which is pretty close by..

here are pics from my hike down to the track and what was left....

I grabbed a ziplock bag of dirt with me and brought back just because...









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CMC 1970
2 100 classes
5 or 6 125 classes
4 or 5 250 classes
2 500 classes
each with 25 to 30 riders from jr. to int. to expert
i hated practice on my 100 cc..i couldn't even hardly make it around the track,it was so muddy ..i saw more bikes and riders at carlsbad then anything in my life

it was real popular with every make and model of bikes...sachs,greeves,penton,monark,zundapp,ossa,bultaco,montesa,hodaka,maico,bsa,CZ,and of course the big 4
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Click Here to see the '84 USGP

Its my first try on the new and improved Vital Vid page, its 23min long, so i figure its better going directly to the vid page, rather than embedding.
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you can still put in some solid pit bike laps on what is left of the track.
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BobbyM wrote:
gary, wouldn't you say that motocross was more popular back then on the local and possibly the national level too? routinely 500-800 riders on a weekend...
gary, wouldn't you say that motocross was more popular back then on the local and possibly the national level too? routinely 500-800 riders on a weekend raceday...wow.
Yes I would say MX was more popular back in the day, but it was also more affordable and the camaraderie was better amongst racers.
When I went to LL’s back in 2004 I could not believe the amount of $$ and the humongous rigs were there for amateurs.

Also the tracks while not prepped as good weren’t as DEADLY with do-or-die jumps. Some of the stuff local Novices/Intermediates do is insane!

Today the sport is MUCH MORE cutthroat imo and some people are racing for the wrong reasons and are completely clueless.

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Thanks for posting those pics jmc, pretty damn sad.... Sad

Thx for posting that Scottie, I will have to check it later....
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...you old guys and your old race tracks...

I never heard of this place before, How good could it have been if it's not there anymore?

...and what is a "CMC" anyway?
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6/17/2009 3:43pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:28am
Brent wrote:
...you old guys and your old race tracks... I never heard of this place before, How good could it have been if it's not there anymore...
...you old guys and your old race tracks...

I never heard of this place before, How good could it have been if it's not there anymore?

...and what is a "CMC" anyway?
I hope your joking...

Better check the history books regarding Carlsbad... or look it up on You Tube.


And don't let Sondra hear you say "What is CMC anyway"


Her family help create the So Cal motocross racing world in the 70's and 80's with CMC. Some of the worlds best riders raced with CMC... Hannah, Ward, Johnson, Glover, and McGrath are a few.


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