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Edited Date/Time 1/18/2021 9:15pm
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ?

They're KTM's FFS !

Sorry had to get that off my chest
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mattyhamz2 1/18/2021 2:37pm
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This should go well!

IN!!
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jmbayle wrote:
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ? They're KTM's FFS ! Sorry had to get that off my...
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ?

They're KTM's FFS !

Sorry had to get that off my chest
Gee golly, I don't think anyone's pointed that out at all!!!

Next you'll be telling me that a GMC is just a Chevy!
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Why does anyone even care? They are all different teams with different riders, run by different team managers. They all have their own style. Each brand is going for a different segment inside the market. I think you will see a much larger separation in price and features in the future.

I think it is good for the sport. Beats seeing 10 guys on orange bikes racing themselves.
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jmbayle wrote:
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ? They're KTM's FFS ! Sorry had to get that off my...
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ?

They're KTM's FFS !

Sorry had to get that off my chest
It's far less silly than calling yourself JMBayle.
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I suppose this will settle the argument of "is it the rider or the bike?". Lol.
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TooTallJason wrote:
Gee golly, I don't think anyone's pointed that out at all!!!

Next you'll be telling me that a GMC is just a Chevy!
And a few years back, a Suzuki RMZ250F was actually just a yellow Kawasaki KX250F. Or maybe it was the other way around, I can't remember. But never mind that, those Japanese bikes are what any normal American should both ride and admire, whereas those weird foreign bikes have strange metal frames and peculiar Brembo brakes. Ewww.

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deluxeman wrote:
Why does anyone even care? They are all different teams with different riders, run by different team managers. They all have their own style. Each brand...
Why does anyone even care? They are all different teams with different riders, run by different team managers. They all have their own style. Each brand is going for a different segment inside the market. I think you will see a much larger separation in price and features in the future.

I think it is good for the sport. Beats seeing 10 guys on orange bikes racing themselves.
What are the different segments? It looks like the Husky and KTM both sell for about the same price and the GasGas is maybe about $800 cheaper. Why would somebody choose one of those brands over the other? What are the differentiaters? Even the $800 savings is less than 10% of the purchase price.
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The horror!!!!

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deluxeman wrote:
Why does anyone even care? They are all different teams with different riders, run by different team managers. They all have their own style. Each brand...
Why does anyone even care? They are all different teams with different riders, run by different team managers. They all have their own style. Each brand is going for a different segment inside the market. I think you will see a much larger separation in price and features in the future.

I think it is good for the sport. Beats seeing 10 guys on orange bikes racing themselves.
RichieW13 wrote:
What are the different segments? It looks like the Husky and KTM both sell for about the same price and the GasGas is maybe about $800...
What are the different segments? It looks like the Husky and KTM both sell for about the same price and the GasGas is maybe about $800 cheaper. Why would somebody choose one of those brands over the other? What are the differentiaters? Even the $800 savings is less than 10% of the purchase price.
Having worked at the big orange machine awhile back, I can tell you that while the bikes are similar, they ride different.

KTM-super rigid feeling and truly ready to race.
Husky-More compliant but still race-able
GasGas-You can race it but the suspension is really set up for the average buyer not the racer.

The brands have a different look, message, and appeal to a different customer. I think you're probably over-thinking it.

Why do you drive the truck that you own, or wear the shoes that you do, or use the tools that you have, or pick the music that you listen to on your AM/ FM radio, or communicate on the phone in your pocket? It's because you gravitate to a brand because that brand speaks to you, has feature you like, and does what you want it to do.

The KTM Group is simply diversifying to appeal to more types of people to steal market share from the other manufacturers. You can't blame them for trying to make money.

Think about this, GAS GAS is a whole lot cooler than it was 2 years ago, 1 year ago, or even 6 month ago.

You need more explanation, go to business school son...
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GrapeApe 1/18/2021 3:32pm
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Wait, so Barcia didn't win H1 on a trials bike?
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jmbayle 1/18/2021 3:38pm
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I want a yellow one !

I'll wait till they buy Suzuki
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Zaugg wrote:
Having worked at the big orange machine awhile back, I can tell you that while the bikes are similar, they ride different. KTM-super rigid feeling and...
Having worked at the big orange machine awhile back, I can tell you that while the bikes are similar, they ride different.

KTM-super rigid feeling and truly ready to race.
Husky-More compliant but still race-able
GasGas-You can race it but the suspension is really set up for the average buyer not the racer.

The brands have a different look, message, and appeal to a different customer. I think you're probably over-thinking it.

Why do you drive the truck that you own, or wear the shoes that you do, or use the tools that you have, or pick the music that you listen to on your AM/ FM radio, or communicate on the phone in your pocket? It's because you gravitate to a brand because that brand speaks to you, has feature you like, and does what you want it to do.

The KTM Group is simply diversifying to appeal to more types of people to steal market share from the other manufacturers. You can't blame them for trying to make money.

Think about this, GAS GAS is a whole lot cooler than it was 2 years ago, 1 year ago, or even 6 month ago.

You need more explanation, go to business school son...
I didn't say it was a bad strategy.

I was just asking what are the actual differences. Sounds like suspension and frame rigidity are the main factors.
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jmbayle wrote:
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ? They're KTM's FFS ! Sorry had to get that off my...
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ?

They're KTM's FFS !

Sorry had to get that off my chest
TooTallJason wrote:
Gee golly, I don't think anyone's pointed that out at all!!!

Next you'll be telling me that a GMC is just a Chevy!
A Chevy is just a GMC...
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jmbayle wrote:
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ? They're KTM's FFS ! Sorry had to get that off my...
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ?

They're KTM's FFS !

Sorry had to get that off my chest
ZOBITO wrote:
It's far less silly than calling yourself JMBayle.
Laughing
RIP to JMBayle lol.
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jmbayle wrote:
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ? They're KTM's FFS ! Sorry had to get that off my...
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ?

They're KTM's FFS !

Sorry had to get that off my chest
TooTallJason wrote:
Gee golly, I don't think anyone's pointed that out at all!!!

Next you'll be telling me that a GMC is just a Chevy!
Timo wrote:
A Chevy is just a GMC...
No fucking way.
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Jeremy_Watson 1/18/2021 4:04pm
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They might be yellow soon since Suzuki is not really doing anything.....
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Johnny Ringo 1/18/2021 5:12pm
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I was told on this forum as well as in MXA they are all different bikes
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I always figured Bernie was a Yamaha man out of principle.


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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/01/18/473574/s1200_D92C9529_44B1_41BD_ACEA_A15A28719FCF.jpg[/img]

He went full R-word, man. Never go full R-word!
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Dirtydeeds 1/18/2021 5:37pm
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Cant buy a ktm sewing machine so suck it.




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bvm111 1/18/2021 6:44pm
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wait ... what... are you saying that they are all KTM platforms????

You don’t say!!!???
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bvm111 wrote:
wait ... what... are you saying that they are all KTM platforms????

You don’t say!!!???
IT'S TRUE!!!
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jmbayle wrote:
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ? They're KTM's FFS ! Sorry had to get that off my...
Am I the only one that finds Husqvarna and Gas Gas 'BRAND NAMES' ridiculous ?

They're KTM's FFS !

Sorry had to get that off my chest
Give your wife or boyfriend some attention,.....
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bvm111 1/18/2021 7:54pm
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bvm111 wrote:
wait ... what... are you saying that they are all KTM platforms????

You don’t say!!!???
TeamGreen wrote:
IT'S TRUE!!!
but how can that be???

seriously??!!!
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fullysicmate 1/18/2021 8:44pm
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I have 2 KTM's and 3 Husqvarnas, After watching Barcias win on the GasGas (it looks good) I want one.......

I was a Honda man once...then they turned shit. I must still have a thing for Red.
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It is a company that is willing enough to have multiple race divisions and multiple parts manufacturing flavors that they can offer multiple interpretations of there motorcycles. It's all a benefit to us. Its give you more options. They are all subtly different, you pick a base and modify accordingly.
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