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Leeham
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Not 1, not 2, but 3 blue pigs in front of Cooper Webb. Impossible...
Go ahead and downvote
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Crush
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1/16/2021 9:14pm
Barcia won on it last year, so it's not like it's terrible all the time... It will bee interesting to see how they adapt as the track surfaces change.

Was good to see them all close together too, means they will build confidence.
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Spudnut
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I saw a step in the right direction.
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mofomotojoe
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1/16/2021 10:35pm
Apples and oranges...
Meanwhile, last Dakar race did not see any of the works blue bikes finish...
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redrider400
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1/16/2021 10:56pm
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's the bike for taller/bigger riders.
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block75
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1/16/2021 11:07pm
Maybe now that Yamaha isn’t as much of an in-house factory team and star is doing what they want, then maybe it’s a better bike with more rider input as others have said previously that the factory big wigs didn’t want to try things that riders had suggested.
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SCC
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1/16/2021 11:11pm
Blue rims suck. Nfm
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Motofinne
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They never had any issues with the bike on the softer tracks. Lets see what happens when we get to slick hard packed tracks if Star has found a solution.
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Crush
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1/17/2021 2:56am
Motofinne wrote:
They never had any issues with the bike on the softer tracks. Lets see what happens when we get to slick hard packed tracks if Star...
They never had any issues with the bike on the softer tracks. Lets see what happens when we get to slick hard packed tracks if Star has found a solution.
Chad did... he got it to work on hardpack but couldn't find a happy spot in the soft. The same year, Webb was exactly opposite. I think it's a finicky set up for those guys at that level is all.
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mmcmx
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1/17/2021 3:47am
I'll hapily eat my words If they get good results, have noting against Yamaha and hope they do good.
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Motofinne
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1/17/2021 3:49am
Motofinne wrote:
They never had any issues with the bike on the softer tracks. Lets see what happens when we get to slick hard packed tracks if Star...
They never had any issues with the bike on the softer tracks. Lets see what happens when we get to slick hard packed tracks if Star has found a solution.
Crush wrote:
Chad did... he got it to work on hardpack but couldn't find a happy spot in the soft. The same year, Webb was exactly opposite. I...
Chad did... he got it to work on hardpack but couldn't find a happy spot in the soft. The same year, Webb was exactly opposite. I think it's a finicky set up for those guys at that level is all.
True but the current bike is a lot different to what Chad raced.
cloud41
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Motofinne wrote:
They never had any issues with the bike on the softer tracks. Lets see what happens when we get to slick hard packed tracks if Star...
They never had any issues with the bike on the softer tracks. Lets see what happens when we get to slick hard packed tracks if Star has found a solution.
Thank gosh for minimal west coast rounds
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Huckster
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1/17/2021 5:12am
mmcmx wrote:
I'll hapily eat my words If they get good results, have noting against Yamaha and hope they do good.
What’s a “good result?” They had 3 guys in Top 8. Mookie has never podium a 450 sx and has 1-4th so he almost matched his career best. Ferrandis is a rookie and had a respectable 7th and AP finished right behind him in 8th. I would say that’s a good result overall for Stars 450 guys.
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Timo
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Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's...
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's the bike for taller/bigger riders.
I'm 5'7" and feel like it fits me better than my old bikes. Lower seat height and tighter rider triangle.
MX Culture
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1/17/2021 7:39am
Mookie’s 5th in the opener is huuuge imo
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Johnny Ringo
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1/17/2021 7:40am
Haters gonna hate
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Philly215
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1/17/2021 7:45am
MX Culture wrote:
Mookie’s 5th in the opener is huuuge imo
It’s pretty good but he’s been that fast for the past couple years. His problem is he was crashing all the time. If he can stay consistent all year that would be really cool to see. Hoping he gets at least 1 podium this year.
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mmcmx
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1/17/2021 9:38am
Huckster wrote:
What’s a “good result?” They had 3 guys in Top 8. Mookie has never podium a 450 sx and has 1-4th so he almost matched his...
What’s a “good result?” They had 3 guys in Top 8. Mookie has never podium a 450 sx and has 1-4th so he almost matched his career best. Ferrandis is a rookie and had a respectable 7th and AP finished right behind him in 8th. I would say that’s a good result overall for Stars 450 guys.
I agree they surprised me on the positive today.
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sandtrack315
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1/17/2021 10:57am
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's...
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's the bike for taller/bigger riders.
Timo wrote:
I'm 5'7" and feel like it fits me better than my old bikes. Lower seat height and tighter rider triangle.
Yeah I’m 6 feet and it feels a bit cramped to me.
Yeti831
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1/17/2021 12:55pm
I don’t hear Stewart complaining about it 🤷‍♂️
soggy
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Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's...
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's the bike for taller/bigger riders.
This is a common suggestion, but actually sitting on the bike it has a smaller cockpit. Just something I noticed, I’m 6 ft
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soggy
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1/17/2021 1:48pm
Yeti831 wrote:
I don’t hear Stewart complaining about it 🤷‍♂️
Stew is only 5 10. Plessinger is tall 6 3 or something
Zesiger 112
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1/17/2021 2:52pm
Leeham wrote:
Not 1, not 2, but 3 blue pigs in front of Cooper Webb. Impossible...
Go ahead and downvote
And a ktm won and finished 3 ahead of all the yamahas, so what is your point?
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1/17/2021 3:06pm Edited Date/Time 1/17/2021 3:07pm
This thread makes no fucking sense. Someone wanna clue me in on what the big deal is about Webb getting beat by Yamaha(s)?
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Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's...
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's the bike for taller/bigger riders.
Timo wrote:
I'm 5'7" and feel like it fits me better than my old bikes. Lower seat height and tighter rider triangle.
I'm 5'7 or 8 and the YZ's feel ludicrous to me. I have a long torso and short legs. Ever since they went to the reverse engine and everyone has complained about them being big they have responded by making the seat thinner as the years have gone by. The problem for guys with a short inseam is it's the wideness of the bike and the gas tank between your thighs that ruins it. Shorter seat doesn't help. Now the seat height is still far from the ground so it sucks for short legs but the rider compartment is cramped so it sucks for long legs too, LOL. My buddy has a brand new 2021 YZ450F. It feels like an absolute ocean liner compared to my Husky 350 and 125 but he is lanky so he just ordered the tall seat for it. My opinion, the reverse engine layout is awesome for power but ruins the ergos of the bike.
yamahaha131
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1/17/2021 5:13pm
Apples and oranges...
Meanwhile, last Dakar race did not see any of the works blue bikes finish...
I mean they’re reliable, but cant run on H2O 🤷🏻‍♂️
Timo
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1/17/2021 8:38pm
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's...
Yamaha is amazing bike for the right rider. And it's terrible for the wrong rider. I'm 6'3, the Yamaha feels amazing to me. I think it's the bike for taller/bigger riders.
Timo wrote:
I'm 5'7" and feel like it fits me better than my old bikes. Lower seat height and tighter rider triangle.
FGR01 wrote:
I'm 5'7 or 8 and the YZ's feel ludicrous to me. I have a long torso and short legs. Ever since they went to the reverse...
I'm 5'7 or 8 and the YZ's feel ludicrous to me. I have a long torso and short legs. Ever since they went to the reverse engine and everyone has complained about them being big they have responded by making the seat thinner as the years have gone by. The problem for guys with a short inseam is it's the wideness of the bike and the gas tank between your thighs that ruins it. Shorter seat doesn't help. Now the seat height is still far from the ground so it sucks for short legs but the rider compartment is cramped so it sucks for long legs too, LOL. My buddy has a brand new 2021 YZ450F. It feels like an absolute ocean liner compared to my Husky 350 and 125 but he is lanky so he just ordered the tall seat for it. My opinion, the reverse engine layout is awesome for power but ruins the ergos of the bike.
My inseam is 31" and it's about perfect, the seat height is lower than my old bike at the end of the seat by 1.5", while being the same height right in the middle of the seat. It really helps when riding off-road, there are a lot of situations where you end up almost on the rear fender and on my old bike I fell over more often. This one is easier to dab a foot and actually touch the ground. I actually made the wheel base 1 inch longer by running a 116 link chain, I have to do this when I run a paddle tire to keep the mud flap from getting destroyed, and actually liked the way it felt. It never feels big to me, but maybe I'm just easy to please.
FGR01
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Timo wrote:
My inseam is 31" and it's about perfect, the seat height is lower than my old bike at the end of the seat by 1.5", while...
My inseam is 31" and it's about perfect, the seat height is lower than my old bike at the end of the seat by 1.5", while being the same height right in the middle of the seat. It really helps when riding off-road, there are a lot of situations where you end up almost on the rear fender and on my old bike I fell over more often. This one is easier to dab a foot and actually touch the ground. I actually made the wheel base 1 inch longer by running a 116 link chain, I have to do this when I run a paddle tire to keep the mud flap from getting destroyed, and actually liked the way it felt. It never feels big to me, but maybe I'm just easy to please.
What is your old bike that you are comparing it to?
roy238
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1/18/2021 3:07am
I'm 6'4" and absolutely love my yz450.
Came off a 2015 rmz450 with a tall seat and the Yamaha still feels more roomy.
To each their own. That's why all 7 brands have different layouts, variety.
One bike I absolutely hate as long as I'm referring to preference is Honda, garbage layout in my opinion along with handling and power delivery is horrible to me.
Timo
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1/18/2021 3:27am
Timo wrote:
My inseam is 31" and it's about perfect, the seat height is lower than my old bike at the end of the seat by 1.5", while...
My inseam is 31" and it's about perfect, the seat height is lower than my old bike at the end of the seat by 1.5", while being the same height right in the middle of the seat. It really helps when riding off-road, there are a lot of situations where you end up almost on the rear fender and on my old bike I fell over more often. This one is easier to dab a foot and actually touch the ground. I actually made the wheel base 1 inch longer by running a 116 link chain, I have to do this when I run a paddle tire to keep the mud flap from getting destroyed, and actually liked the way it felt. It never feels big to me, but maybe I'm just easy to please.
FGR01 wrote:
What is your old bike that you are comparing it to?
07 YZ250F
Crush
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1/18/2021 4:43am
Yeti831 wrote:
I don’t hear Stewart complaining about it 🤷‍♂️
It’s rare the rider that disses their bike after the first race....

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