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I don’t have cable, a dish, or internet service.
But other than that, I’ll stay away from the CNN’s.
I did not intend to piss anybody off, but we dropped it. Instead of ATTACKING the issue, we tried to do as little as possible, and many of us did not even do that.
If a government agency tried to adopt measures to control this, some complied, others resisted.
Instead of coalescing around the problem, we politicized the issue.
That was our downfall.
And we are now paying the Piper.
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I haul paper goods to medical and janitorial distributors, neither of us have stopped working.
I do feel for those who have struggled with this thing and my heart goes out to the families that have lost anyone.
Americans have seen the virus...they see the death counts and likely know someone that has died (or know someone that knows someone that has died)...they know how to prevent it...we don’t need the government to protect us from ourselves...if we are to dumb/skeptical/selfish/fearful/closed minded/whatever to voluntarily take the steps necessary to stop this (social distancing, limiting gatherings, etc etc)....then it is what it is. It’s not the governments job to save us from ourselves. Americans are well informed about this virus at this point, No part of me can support a government shut down of our economy.
Those that are skeptical are skeptical because they don’t trust the media...and the fault of that lies squarely on the media! The media has failed us! As soon as they placed more priority on being first, than being correct...and as soon as they stopped just telling us what happened, and started telling us how we should feel about what happened, they failed at the important roll they are supposed to play in this country. Shame on them....
No more lock downs!
If that is the case, why have speed limits, or drinking and driving laws, require seatbelts, or have any laws regarding drugs?
Surely, if we tell them how dangerous those activities are, everybody will make the right choice! I know that is why everybody quit smoking cigarettes.
We live in a democratic republic, and elect people to represent us. Being a leader is tough, but if you don’t have the sack to lead, step aside.
But feel free to carry on.
Our parents, grandparents, sisters, nieces and nephews, aunts, uncles and cousins drove through our driveway honking their horns then got out and sang happy birthday to him. They then left presents for him in our driveway. It was a huge reminder how beautiful our family is. Unfortunately it was also a huge reminder how shitty this whole virus is.
I don’t know what the answer is or what the correct thing to do is. I don’t worry for myself or anyone else who’s healthy. I worry for my mom who has breast cancer, my grandmother, grandfather, uncle, 2 aunts and cousin who all have a form of cancer. it sucks BAD knowing the age and condition of my grandparents and understanding this may be their last Christmas yet we can’t spend it with them. I just hope this all gets better with these vaccines and we can all move on.
I guess you can call that “leadership”.
You chose to not hide in a closet and place blame on others who dared to live life. You have not hurt anyone, in fact you have helped others by consuming food/drink from outside businesses. It is people like your family that will keep this Country afloat during a media meltdown frenzy over a virus that needs respect but not submission
Majority of American’s did exactly what they were told (like good little citizens) and went along with the first shutdown to flatten the curve. Millions lost their jobs, lost their ability to pay rent, make their house payments, feed their family or pay for critical healthcare...
Millions stopped going for crucial Dr visits, cancer screenings, child vaccinations, and other much needed surgeries..
They didn’t get to pay respects to their loved ones who died (no funerals)....I could go on and on...
We watched some of those who imposed these shutdowns not follow their own guidelines on multiple occasions ( as recent as last week)..
We watched as people protest and riot all summer- this was ok.
We watched small businesses everywhere struggle to survive after having spent a lifetime building these businesses...all the while Walmart, Costco and others were allowed to remain open..
The people claiming others are not being careful are often the ones not being careful themselves...they complain about others..yet expect people like my wife and daughter to go to work at the hospital everyday...expect high school kids to stock shelves at their local grocery store..All for them..
We were told a vaccine by the end of this year would be a miracle..well?
As with most people my family and I have followed all the “rules” ..masks, social distancing, wash our hands...We didn’t fail!
I am thankful for the community I live in that puts our children’s education ahead of fear...My kids have been in school all year and NO one has gotten sick.
Anyways, all this bullshit for a 99% survival rate...100% survival rate for people under ~40.
I don’t support anymore shutdowns...
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Now I’m all for paid medical leave. I believe every single full time employee, whether a doctor or cashier at your local grocery store should be offered paid medical leave.
But here’s the “funny” thing about these COVID days. Only companies with less than 500 employees are required to abide. Isn’t that something? Isn’t it funny how companies with more than 500 employees just so happen to be the ones sending lobbyists and are most likely owned by our politicians and their friends? It’s absolutely asinine when you think about it.
My wife is the director of therapy at a nursing home. This nursing home employees over 500 people so guess who isn’t provided COVID days. Now my wife has to use PTO days or she doesn’t get paid.
My buddies wife is an RN for the maternity unit at our hospital. They employ more than 500 employees so she doesn’t get the days either.
Now where is two places you’d think they wouldn’t want people there while having COVID? I would imagine a place where elderly people live would be a place of concern. I’d imagine a maternity unit would be as well.
Isn’t it crazy how our actual front line workers don’t get offered these COVID days? Yet if I own a little ma and pop restaurant with less than 500 employees I’m responsible to pay them essentially sick leave.
I’m not gonna get political but I really hope people wake up. “They” don’t care about you or me. “They” care about gaining financially off of this crap.
I'm one of those "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water" kind of people. I don't think a shutdown is feasible, and it will do more harm than good. Nor do I think you can close any business if others are allowed to remain open. The only other route is mass vaccinations and proper sanitation. Honestly, proper sanitation and 100% social distancing would work. (Good luck getting it perfect, though.)
As to whether they are worth the pain, that is a totally different question, sadly each human life has a value, shoot the economy in the foot to save 1 person a day, obviously not. so at what point is it worth the sacrifice? truthfully every persons threshold will be different, and its a horrible choice to have to make.
And whilst i say lockdowns have worked in other countries, i think they have worked to keep numbers down or all but eliminate the virus but only when done at the very early stages of community transmission. once the horse is out of the barn, I suspect a lockdown would have to be a very very long one to make significant impact.
All I can say is that it is a very complex issue, anyone that thinks this is a simple cut and dry issue (from either "side") is out to lunch, most of all fuck i cant wait until this is all behind us (however i suspect that will be a long time)
These so called countries do they have access to covid testing virtually daily or anywhere within their community ?
How do you know ? You live there ? Lockdowns working....where?! An iris loan restaurant my wife and I went to that’s been in busines for 34 years is done. Gone. Zilch. Yay lockdowns helped them out !
I can’t wait until the runny nosers come back to the ER so hosptials can pick up revenue again and actually hire people to work.
Now my city of over 4 million people hasnt had a single community transmitted case for over 45 days, restrictions are mostly gone excluding some maximum capacities for pubs and restaurants etc.
Yes, we have testing readily available anyone can drive to a testing place and get a test very quickly. Tests per capita at the time were on par with the US.
Less face to face contact between people obviously translates to less transmission, as to whether its worth the impact to the economy? as i stated, that is a different question, and I am not debating that.
And like i said, i think once the numbers are very large, a lockdown is much less effective, and the impact to the economy would be much greater before the benefits are reaped.
But it categorically worked in my home city and country.
That doesn’t seem to make sense. Seems if 70% of the population getting a vaccine would work, then we wouldn’t need 100% compliance on a lock down /Social distancing effort to work.
To be extra clear, I am not saying the US or any other country should deal with it the way we have. Each to their own, and every country has a different balance of challenges, resources and ideals.
All i am saying is that lockdowns absolutely have worked in my country, we also have a few other factors helping us, but the lockdowns have worked here.
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