Migraines from motocross

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OP, do you do any other cross training? if it was me (sorry if you've done this already and mentioned it) , i'd start doing unit testing. ie variable elimination. ie can you run/bike 30mins with/without similar post workout issues, etc.

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11/30/2020 8:24pm
Long time migraine sufferer here. I was especially prone to them after a days at the track. So much so that I would question riding. They would actually start when I would be loading up the truck, and they’d be debilitating by the time I would get home. I chalked it up to dehydration and over exertion since I would get them after HIIT workouts, too. This past summer they became way more frequent and much harder to treat. Excedrin stopped working, and so did I (was taking days off because of how bad they were getting). I saw a neurologist and had an MRI done to rule out the worst. Fortunately, my noggin is clear, and my doctor prescribed me Emgality. It’s a shot I give myself once a month, and I’ve been migraine free since. While the advice on Vital may come from good places, my best suggestion is to see a physician and get to the bottom of it. Good luck with it - I honestly wouldn’t wish migraines on my worst enemy.
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mxer192 wrote:
I get wicked bad migraines anytime I ride. I have been riding since I was 6 and love the sport but the idea that I'll be...
I get wicked bad migraines anytime I ride. I have been riding since I was 6 and love the sport but the idea that I'll be vomiting, sweating, dizzy and having wicked head pain makes it terrifying to ride. I thought it was just during the hotter months but it seems to be more and more no matter the temperature. I've tried everything I can think of and nothing helps. Anyone else experience any form of this? Any ideas, meds that help or eliminate it?
It might be tension in your neck muscles causing essentially a pinched occipital nerve. I get bad headaches from putting 2 pillows behind my neck and irritating those nerves at the base of the head. Next time you finish riding, see if you can take your thumbs and sort of massage around where the head seats on your neck. If you find the "knots" you can massage/ice them and maybe relieve a lot of the problem.

Took me years to figure this out and at its worst it made my eyes flutter, dizzy, etc.

Never had this problem from moto, but after a life worth of ski/bike/life wrecks, the neck gets full of scar tissue. This can build up on the nerves where they come out between the C1/C2.

Hope that helps and if not good luck with figuring it out.
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11/30/2020 9:04pm
Helmet fit could definitely be an issue. I've had a helmet that caused them, and certain hats that I have give me headaches. I know all the other issues stated in the thread are possible, but don't disregard your helmet as a possibility.
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11/30/2020 11:26pm
Try different tints in your lenses. Blue lenses can trigger some really bad migraines. You might try riding with ear plugs, too. A days worth of riding is incredibly taxing on your senses and visual/auditory fatigue can trigger headaches.
12/1/2020 4:35am Edited Date/Time 12/1/2020 4:38am
I’ve had this issue for years and for various reasons. In all cases, a lighter and properly fitting helmet seemed to help a lot.

For dehydration, I found that Cytomax works better than plain water so on a ride day I would alternate between the two.

For tension headaches, I take 440mg of Naproxen before leaving for the track and I feel good all day.
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Life long sufferer of horrible headaches here. After assuming my headaches were migraines for most of my life I discovered that they were actually cluster headaches. They are also referred to as suicide headaches. Tried many different medicines, doctors, chiropractors and diets with no real consistent relief until I tried CBD. I use the drops and they usually knock the pain down by 90 to 100% and will last about 4 hours. it may not work for you but i never had any medicine work as well and consistently as CBD has for me.
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Are you stressed out a lot? I've had migraines ever since I was little. Now in my 30s I get them about once a month but sometimes ill go a few months without one. I get the weird aura thing in my vision and then about 3-4 hours of pain and then a lingering headache for a day or 2. I can almost 100% pin point mine to stress and the how my body copes with the highs or lows emotionally. I get stressed out super easy and then when my body comes down from being over stressed I feel like it triggers a reaction in my brain and I get a migraine shortly after. I almost feel more sad or down in the dumps a day before my migraines comes.
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mxer192 wrote:
I get wicked bad migraines anytime I ride. I have been riding since I was 6 and love the sport but the idea that I'll be...
I get wicked bad migraines anytime I ride. I have been riding since I was 6 and love the sport but the idea that I'll be vomiting, sweating, dizzy and having wicked head pain makes it terrifying to ride. I thought it was just during the hotter months but it seems to be more and more no matter the temperature. I've tried everything I can think of and nothing helps. Anyone else experience any form of this? Any ideas, meds that help or eliminate it?
stone881 wrote:
It might be tension in your neck muscles causing essentially a pinched occipital nerve. I get bad headaches from putting 2 pillows behind my neck and...
It might be tension in your neck muscles causing essentially a pinched occipital nerve. I get bad headaches from putting 2 pillows behind my neck and irritating those nerves at the base of the head. Next time you finish riding, see if you can take your thumbs and sort of massage around where the head seats on your neck. If you find the "knots" you can massage/ice them and maybe relieve a lot of the problem.

Took me years to figure this out and at its worst it made my eyes flutter, dizzy, etc.

Never had this problem from moto, but after a life worth of ski/bike/life wrecks, the neck gets full of scar tissue. This can build up on the nerves where they come out between the C1/C2.

Hope that helps and if not good luck with figuring it out.
I have the same thing. I have a bone spur in my neck from a moto crash. If I sleep the wrong way it will flare up and get migraine like pain behind my eyes.
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Gives me a little comfort hearing other people are or have dealt with these as long as me. Trying to explain to other people back when I was a kid (I’m 43) what they’re like can be exhausting in itself. Looks like everyone has their own triggers and they’re not always the same.

To the OP, I Appreciate this thread as well as everyone’s input and help. So thank you
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I used to get really bad headaches that occasionally turned into migraines. Here are a few methods I found to avoid the issue.

1) HYDRATE
Not just water, but proper electrolytes. The amount of salt/electrolytes lost while riding and even just lounging on a normal riding day is staggering. Personally, my feet simply never stop sweating. In MX boots with very little ventilation, the issue is exacerbated even while just sitting around. Add in exercise and you have a whole lot of water/salt/electrolyte loss that is absolutely crucial to replace so you're body can function properly.

My favorite electrolyte replacement that I've found is NUUN. They're tablets and powders that you add to water. Sugar free but quite tasty. Available at a lot of sporting goods stores and outdoor gear REI-type places. My muscles used to cramp up horribly either during or after riding, but after learning how to properly hydrate with water and electrolyte replacements like NUUN, it has not been an issue and greatly helped my headaches as well. NUUN was also an absolute lifesaver for me when I did Loretta's in 2010. Unless I'm in a pinch, I tend to avoid Gatorade products like it because of the additional sugars.

2) PROTEIN
I may or may not be anemic, but either way, my body apparently absolutely requires a solid intake of protein to keep the motor running. Food and carbs in general are also important, but without a decent amount of protein consumed before and/or between riding sessions or motos, my body runs out of fuel muy pronto. If I don't have enough, post ride can become a nightmare and I find myself extremely susceptible to pounding headaches, not to mention nearly irreconcilable hanger.

A proper meal at least an hour before riding will sustain you. For longer days, I pack not just snack bars, but proper protein-rich bars. My go-to's are Nature Valley Protein Bars (cheap and easily found) and ProBar bars (dense, made with whole foods and grains but harder to find in stores.) Nuts or healthy sandwiches can also do the trick.

3) CLEAN EYES
Okay, yeah this one may only apply to people who wear contacts. After long, and especially dusty days of riding, for the longest time I would get headaches that would begin literally ON MY EYES. It felt like a pressure being exerted from behind my eyeballs.

I finally realized that dust was continuously collecting on my contacts, and was therefore irritating my eyes which would eventually lead to more massive headaches.

The simple solution: Wash my face properly before leaving the track and either remove or at least clean my contacts before heading home. If it's a long day of motos, sometimes I'll do this midday depending on the dust.

4) TYLENOL EXTRA STRENGTH
Everyone has their preferred OTC drugs for headaches. This one works for me, usually taken post ride if I feel a headache coming on. Also just helps keep to manage of the inevitable muscle and joint pain.

5) STICK WITH YOUR ROUTINE & KNOW YOUR TRIGGERS
It's easy to get out of your daily routine on your riding day; you're pumped and you just want to go shred with your buds. But make certain your taking care of Number 1! If you're a creature of habit, stay true to yourself. I absolutely need a solid breakfast and coffee in order to function properly and I try to never skip those no matter what situation I'm in.

Hope these little tips are helpful. Everyone has their own way of doing things. For me, these are a few of the essential tricks I've discovered over 30 years of riding that help keep my moto days enjoyable.
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I have arthritis in my neck really bad. When it flares up, so do my headaches/migraines. I’ve noticed if I get dehydrated it’s more likely that I’ll get a headache. I deal with migraines about every two months. Hydrate, eating clean and ibuprofen have helped a bit.
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Mines not dehydration related as I always drink a ton of water. I'm currently getting botox by my neurologist and still get them. Just yesterday I...
Mines not dehydration related as I always drink a ton of water. I'm currently getting botox by my neurologist and still get them. Just yesterday I rode 2 10 lap motos on a track that's about a minute long and as I was heading home I felt dizzy and was seeing stars. Once I got home I got a bad headache and started vomiting. Vomited about 6 times and still have the headaches today.
Breathing is key to prevent migraines.
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12/1/2020 9:36am
Chiari malformation google it, had migraine headache issues my entire, when I was in my 20's I was getting them more sever when I was working out. Went to the doctor had an MRI and found my issue. Haven't had it corrected im not a surgery guy, but make myself aware of what I'm doing and when I start to feel the symptoms I back down, like what the others have said hydration is critical.
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12/1/2020 9:45am
I also suffer from migraines and have definitely found that I get them more frequently on the days that I ride.

For me, the majority of my migraines went away with diet. As mentioned, I had one doctor just throw every medication at me to see if something worked, and none of it did. Once I went on an elimination diet and started slowly working things back in, I figured out that almonds were the biggest trigger, and at the time I was consuming them daily. That has helped tremendously, but still didn't cure the riding issue...

Now, another doctor I saw was much more personable and even shared that he also suffered from migraines. Rather than medication, he explained that what tends to cause many of them is too much variation. Everything from variation in your sleep schedule, diet, hydration, stress levels, and exertion can cause the "excitement" that leads to a migraine. Essentially, your brain doesn't like surprises. Riding has the potential to cause a lot of upset, especially with stress and exertion. As bayodome mentioned above, routine is critical.

For me, the consistent routine has to not only be how I treat the day, but making sure that I am doing cardio regularly so that my body is used to maintaining an elevated heart rate for a prolonged period of time. Once that sort of stress was no longer atypical, the headaches stopped on ride days for me. When they do come up, I find that taking ibuprofen is really helpful. I've also found that for me, holding an ice cube to my temple (right against the inflamed blood vessel that is causing the pain) until it's just beyond the point of an unbearable brain freeze causes most of the migraine symptoms to go away almost immediately. My understanding is that migraines have a lot to do with inflammation, so anything that counters inflammation is worth a shot.

Finally, I've been using fitness tracking devices over the past year and learned that the amount of calories I burn on a ride day are significantly higher than anything I achieve on even the most strenuous days at the gym. I also tend to not eat much at the track due to stress. If I'm in a severe calorie deficit, I'm almost guaranteed to end up with a headache.

Hopefully some of that helps out. Resolving migraines is definitely a trial and error process, and unfortunately I've found that most of the medications are ineffective or have side effects far worse than dealing with the headaches, but there are other solutions out there worth trying!
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12/1/2020 9:49am
My experience with headaches from riding was traced back to my teeth. Motocross is hi-impact, and with it is the risk of the upper and lower jaw colliding. This is a big deal in the world of concussions and is the reason so many sports mandate the use of dental mouth guards.. I started using one when I ride/race and the positive effects were immediate. Lots of riders use them, including many Pros. And even if the clanging jaws is not the reason for headache issues, the other safety benefits are a bonus.
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My experience with headaches from riding was traced back to my teeth. Motocross is hi-impact, and with it is the risk of the upper and lower...
My experience with headaches from riding was traced back to my teeth. Motocross is hi-impact, and with it is the risk of the upper and lower jaw colliding. This is a big deal in the world of concussions and is the reason so many sports mandate the use of dental mouth guards.. I started using one when I ride/race and the positive effects were immediate. Lots of riders use them, including many Pros. And even if the clanging jaws is not the reason for headache issues, the other safety benefits are a bonus.
Was just going to mention this. Clenching is a huge contributor to massive headaches and a mouth guard could possibly be a solution. Could be clenching in the pits, on the way to the track, etc.

I don’t suffer headaches while riding, but if concentrating, hyper focused, under mild stress I catch myself clenching right about the time a massive headache rolls in.
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12/2/2020 5:30am
Have you ever gone to the chiropractor? I've seen that help a lot for people with headaches/migraines.
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12/2/2020 6:18am
Noise always caused my migraines. Always had loud trucks, snowmobiles, everything. Now even when mowing I wear hearing protection, quite trucks, and when I put a system on my bike it has to be quieter then stock or it'll flare up. Just my experience.
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12/2/2020 7:12am
Chance1216 wrote:
I have arthritis in my neck really bad. When it flares up, so do my headaches/migraines. I’ve noticed if I get dehydrated it’s more likely that...
I have arthritis in my neck really bad. When it flares up, so do my headaches/migraines. I’ve noticed if I get dehydrated it’s more likely that I’ll get a headache. I deal with migraines about every two months. Hydrate, eating clean and ibuprofen have helped a bit.
To add to what Chance posted. When I read the title I thought about my wife's struggles. She trained horses for years and suffered from migraines. Went to doctor after doctor. Finally found the issue, it was a bulging disc in her neck. Similar to moto, she has been bucked, thrown, kicked, concussions etc..

Something to look into, if you have a nerve issue in the neck, I can definitely see the weight of a helmet and goggles while riding be a trigger.

Hope you get it figured out.
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I haven't found a trigger for mine, but I start out with Exedrin. If that doesn't work I move to Imatrex. I have had some where I needed both of them plus Ibuprofen. Usually hit hard, then linger for 3 days. Definitely get moody a day before and get a hyper sense of smell. First time I got the aura it scared the shit out of me. Thought I was having a stroke. I went up to Canada and they have an Exedrin type drug that also has codeine available over the counter. They work well too.
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I've also found my eyewear makes a difference – I always wear polarized glasses (because i'm Casper personified) and normal eyewear or goggles that are just dark still seem to hammer my eyes)... Not heaps you can do but sometimes the smoke and reflective lenses seam to help?
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We usually like to have a few brewski's after our rides and bs about the days harrowing events thru the Brutal Sonoran Desert.

And yes most of the time on the drive home I will get a headache and I have always taken Advil.
Not sure how to avoid the Beer and BS session......Dry

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alphado wrote:
I haven't found a trigger for mine, but I start out with Exedrin. If that doesn't work I move to Imatrex. I have had some where...
I haven't found a trigger for mine, but I start out with Exedrin. If that doesn't work I move to Imatrex. I have had some where I needed both of them plus Ibuprofen. Usually hit hard, then linger for 3 days. Definitely get moody a day before and get a hyper sense of smell. First time I got the aura it scared the shit out of me. Thought I was having a stroke. I went up to Canada and they have an Exedrin type drug that also has codeine available over the counter. They work well too.
100% same here. The aura sucks big time. I turn into such an asshole the day before I get it. Its almost the reason why I think I get them from some sort of chemical imbalance or from stress/coming down from stress.

Earlier this year I actually went 7 months without one(usually get them once a month) . I eat the same and exercise pretty much the same all the time. My mom passed away suddenly and had to plan all the arrangements. Its was a week of hell emotionally and stress wise. After the service etc... I took a day or 2 that weekend and just relaxed. That's when I get my first migraine in 7 months. nothing had changed but my stress levels.
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Wow thank you everyone for your input. I'm not the only one lol.
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Try different tints in your lenses. Blue lenses can trigger some really bad migraines. You might try riding with ear plugs, too. A days worth of...
Try different tints in your lenses. Blue lenses can trigger some really bad migraines. You might try riding with ear plugs, too. A days worth of riding is incredibly taxing on your senses and visual/auditory fatigue can trigger headaches.
I normally use red or yellow tents. Im never outside without glasses as the bright sun is a trigger
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MeTed wrote:
Life long sufferer of horrible headaches here. After assuming my headaches were migraines for most of my life I discovered that they were actually cluster headaches...
Life long sufferer of horrible headaches here. After assuming my headaches were migraines for most of my life I discovered that they were actually cluster headaches. They are also referred to as suicide headaches. Tried many different medicines, doctors, chiropractors and diets with no real consistent relief until I tried CBD. I use the drops and they usually knock the pain down by 90 to 100% and will last about 4 hours. it may not work for you but i never had any medicine work as well and consistently as CBD has for me.
I actually use medical marijuana. Been going on 2 years with it and it has helped about 30% migraines and 70% stress level lol
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I get migraines on a regular basis but not from riding. I am lucky that I have prescription meds (Imitrex and naproxen) that work for the most part. There are days they dont work, so I just have to wait a while and go for a second round of them and stay in a quiet dark place. No over the counter meds work for me at all. I usually wake up from sleeping with them, rarely do I get one after being up and about throughout the day. I do know what some of my triggers are but even staying away from them I do get them still.

Its weird also at times, I can drink 1 beer/1 glass of bourban and wake up the next day with a migraine, or I can drink 15 or them and not have any headache, so times like that I just dont understand. (FYI I dont drink 15 beers/bourbon on a regular occassion). I do get headaches from strong odors like fuel, paint, things of that nature.

I have thought about some of those things you see on the television commercials but there are a lot of side affects that seem to come with them, so that scares me off from trying them. I will just do my best to stay away from my triggers and take my prescription meds when needed.

Also, I dont drink a lot of caffeine so a doctor told me to have a soda/caffeine if I feel a headache coming on. I have tried that when I started getting a headache during my day and surprisingly it worked, but not 100% of the time. I do try and stay as hydrated as possible and just hope for the best. I dont wish migraines on anyone because in my case it pretty much shuts me down until I can get rid of them.

Hopefully for those that get them can find ways to get them under control as best possible. I highly recommend seeing a doctor, its definitely worth a shot to see if they can help.
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12/2/2020 2:46pm
Excellent thread.

I’ve suffered from migraines my whole life Less as an adult but more often than not some bad headaches after riding. I got neck problems. I’m in my early 30’s and have been abusing my body for quite some time and have chalked it up to; your wearing a hot/heavy helmet usually On a hot summer day in hot gear abusing the crap out of your body over bumps and jumps with your heart racing. Only seems right to get some sort of headache. Shit I’ve had debilitating stomach aches after riding. It’s a tough sport from getting loaded up to unloading that evening it’s a long day for anyone.
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I am too a person who experiences migraines after riding. I have been getting them since I was 14 now 24. I went over a year with out them and had my first one since July of 2019 this past october. I get stroke like symptoms, numb face and arm, aura, vomit, sharp pain, you name it I get it. No medicines I had to swallow would work as I would throw them up with even a sip of water. I would contently just go to the ER to get a cocktails of injections to put me to sleep for half hour to an hour and wake up groggy but better. Unfortunately I rather not resort to that or $150 co-pay. The day I got one I found I was super tired feeling all day even after 8 hours or sleep I even tried a protien shake. probably should have chose to withdraw for the day but didnt. I still get scared to push and do more than 1 class, and as much as I get excited about competing in a national It terrifies me that after the long motos and qualifying session combine ill get one. During that 1 year of no migraines I found my routine consisted of sugars and small foods. I cant eat heavy stuff during or between rides. I would pound fruit cups, Nature valley bars, lots of water and for a small boost an arizona sweet tea. anytime I feel weird I either stop riding for the day or take a long break between sessions making for a longer day at the track. I also found that focus become difficult when I am prone to getting one and cutting the activity short usually saves me. Thats how i prevented one for a year. i still do not know my trigger(s) but routine and awareness has seemed to prove good for me.
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