2026 RMZ450

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8/9/2020 5:46pm
Arguing for Suzuki is like arguing for California big difference is Suzuki can be fixed
I only liked this for the California statement
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8/9/2020 7:29pm
Gillboy67 wrote:
OK ALL YOU HATERS HERE ARE SOME OVER-ALL TOP 15 RESULTS FOR LL FOR THE ZOOKS 250 PRO SPORT 2ND PLUS 40 3RD PLUS 30 2ND...
OK ALL YOU HATERS HERE ARE SOME OVER-ALL TOP 15 RESULTS FOR LL FOR THE ZOOKS

250 PRO SPORT 2ND
PLUS 40 3RD
PLUS 30 2ND
MINI SR 7TH
85 10-12 2ND
OPEN PRO SPORT 3RD, 7TH
PLUS 50 1ST 2ND 13TH AND 15TH
SR 45 1ST

ALSO HERE IS HOW THE PUMPKINS AND WHITE BIKES DID ON TOP 3 SPOTS ON BIKE BIKE CLASSES
OPEN PRO HUSK 1ST
250B KTM 2ND
250C KTM 1ST AND 3RD
250 LIMITED HUSK 3RD
50 PLUS KTM 3RD
SCHOOL BOY 2 KTM 2ND
SCHOOL BOY 1 KTM 1ST
250 PRO SPORT HUSK 1ST
450B KTM 3RD
450C KTM 2ND
COLLEGE BOY KTM 1ST 3RD
SR 45 KTM 3RD
ALL OTHER POSITIONS WERE FILLED BY OTHER JAP BRANDS.


kiwifan wrote:
awesome, great stuff, by the way how did the Zooks do in the last round of MXGP?
kiwifan wrote:
oopss sorry, I was lazy just checked for myself, none at all in the 450 or 250 races

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/Results-Sheet-2020-MXGP-of-Latvia,7051
But just think.... “If” there was a Suzuki, it would’ve probably been on the podium.
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kiwifan wrote:
awesome, great stuff, by the way how did the Zooks do in the last round of MXGP?
kiwifan wrote:
oopss sorry, I was lazy just checked for myself, none at all in the 450 or 250 races

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/Results-Sheet-2020-MXGP-of-Latvia,7051
Langhammx wrote:
But just think.... “If” there was a Suzuki, it would’ve probably been on the podium.
lol maybe...who knows
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8/9/2020 11:40pm
HOF thread for sure. Great stuff lads!
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8/10/2020 7:21am
BobPA wrote:
Your "statement of facts" is a comparison, what in gods green earth are you smoking? You've got a narrative you're trying to push....and anyone with half...
Your "statement of facts" is a comparison, what in gods green earth are you smoking? You've got a narrative you're trying to push....and anyone with half a brain can see that your "facts" are just a comparison of cherry picked statistics.


Put the abacus down bro...You're comparing a single manufacturer vs all of Japan....how is that accurate?
Gillboy67 wrote:
OK lets try this in lil boy terms so you can understand KTM/Husky Just loved buy 99% of the mags and shootouts they are supposed to...
OK lets try this in lil boy terms so you can understand
KTM/Husky Just loved buy 99% of the mags and shootouts they are supposed to be the be all to end all.
810 of them at one am national Over 1/2 by a long ways (Some of the best AMs in the country)
all the other brands out perform "the best" with allot less bikes on the line and the "heavy out dated under powered kick start bikes"(according to some) where one of those bikes!!!

SO I WILL SAY IT ONCE AGAIN AS YOUR OBVIOUSLY TO DENS OR CANT READ.
So like I said in the prev post!(THE BRAND DOESN'T MATTER ANY MORE ITS ALL RIDER AND A LITTLE LUCK)

DO YOU UNDER STAND NOW!
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your cause. Can you form a rebuttal that was not written like a middle schooler? It may help provide the necessary information to help us understand what you are trying to achieve.

YELLING DOES NOT HELP.

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8/10/2020 8:09am Edited Date/Time 8/10/2020 8:13am
You cannot have results if there is no bikes...
There was two suzuki in EMX open class, one rider did 3rd and 6th
P.S : you can notice that in europe, KTM and Husqvarna are numbered!
Even in EMX 250 CLASS, there is only KTM, Husqvarna & Yamaha...

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8/10/2020 8:50am
BobPA wrote:
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your...
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your cause. Can you form a rebuttal that was not written like a middle schooler? It may help provide the necessary information to help us understand what you are trying to achieve.

YELLING DOES NOT HELP.

What ever bud. You bore me. I think you totally understand what i am saying. You just have your Orange colored glasses on.
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BobPA wrote:
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your...
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your cause. Can you form a rebuttal that was not written like a middle schooler? It may help provide the necessary information to help us understand what you are trying to achieve.

YELLING DOES NOT HELP.

Gillboy67 wrote:
What ever bud. You bore me. I think you totally understand what i am saying. You just have your Orange colored glasses on.
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
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8/10/2020 1:25pm
BobPA wrote:
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your...
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your cause. Can you form a rebuttal that was not written like a middle schooler? It may help provide the necessary information to help us understand what you are trying to achieve.

YELLING DOES NOT HELP.

Gillboy67 wrote:
What ever bud. You bore me. I think you totally understand what i am saying. You just have your Orange colored glasses on.
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
Those short buses were Yellow!!!!
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8/10/2020 1:27pm
BobPA wrote:
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your...
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your cause. Can you form a rebuttal that was not written like a middle schooler? It may help provide the necessary information to help us understand what you are trying to achieve.

YELLING DOES NOT HELP.

Gillboy67 wrote:
What ever bud. You bore me. I think you totally understand what i am saying. You just have your Orange colored glasses on.
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you are a KTM guy.
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8/10/2020 1:30pm
Gillboy67 wrote:
What ever bud. You bore me. I think you totally understand what i am saying. You just have your Orange colored glasses on.
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you...
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you are a KTM guy.
Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the 2020 Kawasaki kx250f kickstart only?
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8/10/2020 1:34pm
BobPA wrote:
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your...
Negative man, I still do not see how your comparisons prove anything. The use of broken English and the occasion caps lock are not helping your cause. Can you form a rebuttal that was not written like a middle schooler? It may help provide the necessary information to help us understand what you are trying to achieve.

YELLING DOES NOT HELP.

Gillboy67 wrote:
What ever bud. You bore me. I think you totally understand what i am saying. You just have your Orange colored glasses on.
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying to update the encyclopedias in my cavern. You know.
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The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you...
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you are a KTM guy.
Did it ever cross your mind that it might be true?

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8/10/2020 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2020 5:14pm
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you...
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you are a KTM guy.
BobPA wrote:
Did it ever cross your mind that it might be true?

Let it go. It's a non-issue. I'm one of the guys saying the RMZ is an excellent bike and more dependable than most...
All the while...
My screen-name is TeamGreen.
I've got more hours & miles on KTMs and Husqvarnas over the last 8 years than can be counted.

KTM & Husky are superb bikes &, btw, you pay a bit extra for them, too. Why? Because, they're worth it.
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Well I have had 6 RM-Z 450s an 05/08/10/13/15/18 I know them very very well. But...... I just went full retard and drank the orange cool aid, KTM450 SXF. Here is what I think. For the price what you get from the suzuki is very very good (they have to advertise the RRP because if they are to lower it by 2k, and then put it up later if they update their bike, people would lose their shit) you can get these bikes very cheap right now.

For the price you pay for a KTM, what you get is very very good also, ready to race (apart from those horrible air forks)

The new suzuki bodywork and frame is slim narrow and modern, it feels natural and has a perfect triangle for me. I can use one 8mm T Handle and pretty much strip the whole bike down with one tool, Ive never lost a bolt and never had to use loctite. The power is awesome right off the bottom but you have to shift fast, I think Roczen did well on this bike and not Barcia for that reason. The BFRC shock is way off, up until 17 the suzuki shock was an A Kit clone with 18mm shaft.
The suzuki is only 1 pound heavier than the yami but feels light on the track, it feels super planted and is the perfect front wheel steering bike.

The KTM, I'm starting to love this bike more and more, you can definitely feel the weight, it feels like a MTB when I ride it, I don't have that planted feeling of the suzuki but a hoppy, skippy, twinkle toes feeling that I have to adjust for, you can definitely steer with the rear and it corners amazing, You do have to get up on the front more to turn in than the suzuki, but the suzi pretty much turns itself.

The slightest weighted peg and the KTM moves effortlessly, the suzuki is just a lot more input and effort.

The suzukis have been super reliable, easily 200 hour bikes with out touching a thing on the motor, they're heavy cause they're built like tanks. Best thing is, parts can move from 08 up to 21.

So far my KTM hates are, pegs are horrible, air forks need to go, will upgrade to technical touch KYB inserts. Seat feels weird, round and like a couch, Hopefully a guts cover will square it up a bit. The rear shock is amazing!. The front fender sticks out like a 4x2, I cant see anything and feels like a farm bike, the suzuki points down and out of the way and doesn't feel like your wheel is higher than what it is, I will drill and modify the angle of the KTM fender for sure.
The KTM power is gutless off the bottom, until I found out to keep it wide open, then it comes on like a beast, total opposite of the zook. I have the 2 stroke cage and modded airbox, will try a Vortex next.

KTM brakes and clutch a phenomenal and are what every one says they are.

The biggest thing for me was the weight, old and slow now and I feel it, I can ride faster, longer and safer on the KTM.

The RMZ is still an amazing bike and my passion will always be suzukis, I will get another one one day for sure.
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Y'all ever heard it's the Indian not the arrow?
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8/10/2020 8:37pm
Has anyone even seen a photo of 2021 rmz 450?
8/10/2020 9:19pm
big natty wrote:
Has anyone even seen a photo of 2021 rmz 450?
Nope
8/11/2020 3:58am
Rotaholic wrote:
Well I have had 6 RM-Z 450s an 05/08/10/13/15/18 I know them very very well. But...... I just went full retard and drank the orange cool...
Well I have had 6 RM-Z 450s an 05/08/10/13/15/18 I know them very very well. But...... I just went full retard and drank the orange cool aid, KTM450 SXF. Here is what I think. For the price what you get from the suzuki is very very good (they have to advertise the RRP because if they are to lower it by 2k, and then put it up later if they update their bike, people would lose their shit) you can get these bikes very cheap right now.

For the price you pay for a KTM, what you get is very very good also, ready to race (apart from those horrible air forks)

The new suzuki bodywork and frame is slim narrow and modern, it feels natural and has a perfect triangle for me. I can use one 8mm T Handle and pretty much strip the whole bike down with one tool, Ive never lost a bolt and never had to use loctite. The power is awesome right off the bottom but you have to shift fast, I think Roczen did well on this bike and not Barcia for that reason. The BFRC shock is way off, up until 17 the suzuki shock was an A Kit clone with 18mm shaft.
The suzuki is only 1 pound heavier than the yami but feels light on the track, it feels super planted and is the perfect front wheel steering bike.

The KTM, I'm starting to love this bike more and more, you can definitely feel the weight, it feels like a MTB when I ride it, I don't have that planted feeling of the suzuki but a hoppy, skippy, twinkle toes feeling that I have to adjust for, you can definitely steer with the rear and it corners amazing, You do have to get up on the front more to turn in than the suzuki, but the suzi pretty much turns itself.

The slightest weighted peg and the KTM moves effortlessly, the suzuki is just a lot more input and effort.

The suzukis have been super reliable, easily 200 hour bikes with out touching a thing on the motor, they're heavy cause they're built like tanks. Best thing is, parts can move from 08 up to 21.

So far my KTM hates are, pegs are horrible, air forks need to go, will upgrade to technical touch KYB inserts. Seat feels weird, round and like a couch, Hopefully a guts cover will square it up a bit. The rear shock is amazing!. The front fender sticks out like a 4x2, I cant see anything and feels like a farm bike, the suzuki points down and out of the way and doesn't feel like your wheel is higher than what it is, I will drill and modify the angle of the KTM fender for sure.
The KTM power is gutless off the bottom, until I found out to keep it wide open, then it comes on like a beast, total opposite of the zook. I have the 2 stroke cage and modded airbox, will try a Vortex next.

KTM brakes and clutch a phenomenal and are what every one says they are.

The biggest thing for me was the weight, old and slow now and I feel it, I can ride faster, longer and safer on the KTM.

The RMZ is still an amazing bike and my passion will always be suzukis, I will get another one one day for sure.
Are you really talking about making a custom front fender? I've never heard of such a thing

Also how do you hold a 450 "wide open" cause its gutless down low, then claim to be old and slow?
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8/11/2020 4:00am
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you...
The good old “I’m a Kawasaki guy” line. You’ve been using that one for a while now while preaching about KTM. It’s ok to say you are a KTM guy.
Correct me if I am wrong but weren't the 2020 Kawasaki kx250f kickstart only?
Since when did we start talking about 250f's? I have a klx140 pit bike with more innovation then that darn sUZuKi!
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19 pages and I still haven’t learned a damn thing about the ‘21 RMZ450...........
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Rotaholic wrote:
Well I have had 6 RM-Z 450s an 05/08/10/13/15/18 I know them very very well. But...... I just went full retard and drank the orange cool...
Well I have had 6 RM-Z 450s an 05/08/10/13/15/18 I know them very very well. But...... I just went full retard and drank the orange cool aid, KTM450 SXF. Here is what I think. For the price what you get from the suzuki is very very good (they have to advertise the RRP because if they are to lower it by 2k, and then put it up later if they update their bike, people would lose their shit) you can get these bikes very cheap right now.

For the price you pay for a KTM, what you get is very very good also, ready to race (apart from those horrible air forks)

The new suzuki bodywork and frame is slim narrow and modern, it feels natural and has a perfect triangle for me. I can use one 8mm T Handle and pretty much strip the whole bike down with one tool, Ive never lost a bolt and never had to use loctite. The power is awesome right off the bottom but you have to shift fast, I think Roczen did well on this bike and not Barcia for that reason. The BFRC shock is way off, up until 17 the suzuki shock was an A Kit clone with 18mm shaft.
The suzuki is only 1 pound heavier than the yami but feels light on the track, it feels super planted and is the perfect front wheel steering bike.

The KTM, I'm starting to love this bike more and more, you can definitely feel the weight, it feels like a MTB when I ride it, I don't have that planted feeling of the suzuki but a hoppy, skippy, twinkle toes feeling that I have to adjust for, you can definitely steer with the rear and it corners amazing, You do have to get up on the front more to turn in than the suzuki, but the suzi pretty much turns itself.

The slightest weighted peg and the KTM moves effortlessly, the suzuki is just a lot more input and effort.

The suzukis have been super reliable, easily 200 hour bikes with out touching a thing on the motor, they're heavy cause they're built like tanks. Best thing is, parts can move from 08 up to 21.

So far my KTM hates are, pegs are horrible, air forks need to go, will upgrade to technical touch KYB inserts. Seat feels weird, round and like a couch, Hopefully a guts cover will square it up a bit. The rear shock is amazing!. The front fender sticks out like a 4x2, I cant see anything and feels like a farm bike, the suzuki points down and out of the way and doesn't feel like your wheel is higher than what it is, I will drill and modify the angle of the KTM fender for sure.
The KTM power is gutless off the bottom, until I found out to keep it wide open, then it comes on like a beast, total opposite of the zook. I have the 2 stroke cage and modded airbox, will try a Vortex next.

KTM brakes and clutch a phenomenal and are what every one says they are.

The biggest thing for me was the weight, old and slow now and I feel it, I can ride faster, longer and safer on the KTM.

The RMZ is still an amazing bike and my passion will always be suzukis, I will get another one one day for sure.
Are you really talking about making a custom front fender? I've never heard of such a thing Also how do you hold a 450 "wide open"...
Are you really talking about making a custom front fender? I've never heard of such a thing

Also how do you hold a 450 "wide open" cause its gutless down low, then claim to be old and slow?
The way the front fender mounts is very square, I will slot the bolt retaining washers and angle the tip of the fender more towards the ground, a few mm gap at the mounts will make a massive difference at the end of the fender.

I'm older and slower than what I used to be... I can still twist it, you never really lose your speed though The suzuki has no over rev, none. The KTM loves being revved,
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8/11/2020 5:42am
Ehhhhh so in summary of 19 pages the 2021 bike will be a 2017 with probably some yellow number plates and the blue on the graphics moved lower a inch? 🤷🏻‍♂️and 2022 will be updated? I feel like the whole “the new bike is coming next year” is like the boy who cried wolf at this point. Just my two cents from a uneducated MXer. maybe by the time we reach 21 pages we will find out some real answers? 😂
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8/11/2020 6:07am Edited Date/Time 8/11/2020 2:17pm
Gillboy67 wrote:
What ever bud. You bore me. I think you totally understand what i am saying. You just have your Orange colored glasses on.
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
sf702/410 wrote:
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying...
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying to update the encyclopedias in my cavern. You know.
Kawi: First linkage suspension. First major with disc brakes. First perimeter frame. First platform footpegs. First selectable fuel maps. First launch control. First dual injector.
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8/11/2020 6:29am
Since when did we start talking about 250f's? I have a klx140 pit bike with more innovation then that darn sUZuKi!
I don't know if you've noticed but it appears everything is fair game in this thread
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8/11/2020 8:10am
Ehhhhh so in summary of 19 pages the 2021 bike will be a 2017 with probably some yellow number plates and the blue on the graphics...
Ehhhhh so in summary of 19 pages the 2021 bike will be a 2017 with probably some yellow number plates and the blue on the graphics moved lower a inch? 🤷🏻‍♂️and 2022 will be updated? I feel like the whole “the new bike is coming next year” is like the boy who cried wolf at this point. Just my two cents from a uneducated MXer. maybe by the time we reach 21 pages we will find out some real answers? 😂
Actually if it doesnt change it will be like the 2018. The bike was new in 18!(450)
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8/11/2020 8:16am
Ehhhhh so in summary of 19 pages the 2021 bike will be a 2017 with probably some yellow number plates and the blue on the graphics...
Ehhhhh so in summary of 19 pages the 2021 bike will be a 2017 with probably some yellow number plates and the blue on the graphics moved lower a inch? 🤷🏻‍♂️and 2022 will be updated? I feel like the whole “the new bike is coming next year” is like the boy who cried wolf at this point. Just my two cents from a uneducated MXer. maybe by the time we reach 21 pages we will find out some real answers? 😂
Gillboy67 wrote:
Actually if it doesnt change it will be like the 2018. The bike was new in 18!(450)
That changes everything!!!!!
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8/11/2020 8:45am
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
sf702/410 wrote:
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying...
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying to update the encyclopedias in my cavern. You know.
Kawi: First linkage suspension. First major with disc brakes. First perimeter frame. First platform footpegs. First selectable fuel maps. First launch control. First dual injector.
Hydro clutch on japanese brand. Mx bike also
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8/11/2020 9:07am
BobPA wrote:
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually...
Not at all chief, I am a Kawasaki guy. I get the feeling you didn't ride on a normal sized school bus as a kid....I actually feel bad for your serious lack of intellect. Only a knuckle dragging caveman would dare kickstart a motorcycle anymore....and you've gotta be a true caveman to defend the brand that is eons behind everyone else....
sf702/410 wrote:
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying...
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying to update the encyclopedias in my cavern. You know.
Kawi: First linkage suspension. First major with disc brakes. First perimeter frame. First platform footpegs. First selectable fuel maps. First launch control. First dual injector.
Didn't know that, thanks. Same to mxb2. Encyclopedias updated. Lol
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sf702/410 wrote:
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying...
I'll give kawi the kz series street bikes, but where have they innovated in dirt? Just want to see from what pedestal you speak from. Trying to update the encyclopedias in my cavern. You know.
Kawi: First linkage suspension. First major with disc brakes. First perimeter frame. First platform footpegs. First selectable fuel maps. First launch control. First dual injector.
sf702/410 wrote:
Didn't know that, thanks. Same to mxb2. Encyclopedias updated. Lol
Is your encyclopedia chiseled in stone, or have you adopted pen and paper?
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