A new 2018 YZ250 build

cdoggy81
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1/23/2020 12:40pm
Looking fw to seeing the results of this. My guess is they will be close. If you had a PC to compare those to I think you would see a bigger difference :-)
Thanks!
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Kenny Boy
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2/2/2020 9:04am
Nice build man..thanks for sharing. I look forward to more updates. Good work.
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2/3/2020 12:23am
cdoggy81 wrote:
Looking fw to seeing the results of this. My guess is they will be close. If you had a PC to compare those to I think...
Looking fw to seeing the results of this. My guess is they will be close. If you had a PC to compare those to I think you would see a bigger difference :-)
Thanks!
I've had a pro circuit works pipe and r304 silencer in the past. Never had it on the dyno but I didn't like the powerband.

We have smaller tracks over here and the pipe didn't have much low end power and then halfway the corners the power came in so it was not easy to ride the bike with the pro circuit pipe.

Also the shorter silencer made the bike too aggressive.
I'm now riding already 5 years with the HGS pipe and it's the best allround pipe I've had.
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2/3/2020 5:56am
Yes I agree 100%. I was just saying there would be more of a difference between a PC pipe & the HGS than there would between the DEP & the HGS. That is why I am excited to see your results of the HGS and the DEP on the dyno to compare those two pipes 😁
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The Shop

2/5/2020 9:03am Edited Date/Time 2/5/2020 9:07am
Here we are with the numbers!

I installed a new OEM piston last week(had one in the spare parts kit) and changed the reeds to the Vforce3 because I can't find new petals for the alu reed block.

I also had the cylinder cleaned up because there were a lot of sharp edges on the ports. No porting job just small clean up.

First we did some heat cycles on the dyno and then we did a run with the HGS pipe, enduro HGS silencer and the vforce3 reeds.

There was a lot more overrev and more hp compared with the runs we did when the bike was new.
This is a comparison with 2 runs we did now and a run we did a half year ago with the HGS pipe, stock silencer and stock reed block.(light brown and purple line was the run back in 2019, orange,yellow and blue, light blue is now)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHhx3ZjTLE

We also tested the DEP pipe and like I thought the DEP had a bit less torque but even more overrev then the HGS pipe with the enduro silencer.(orange and blue line is HGS, red and light blue is DEP)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-soaKvW5o8

Bike has peak power of +-51.5 hp





I will test a heavier flywheel on the track because the bike was a bit snappy the last time I rode it and it will be even more snappy now I guess..


chump6784
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2/5/2020 11:40am
Thanks for posting those up. The results are exactly what I have found from riding the 2 different pipes. The HGS can lug a bit more off the bottom but the DEP seems to pull forever
I had a 9 oz flywheel weight when running the dep and honestly think I would have preferred the bike without it. It just took that bit extra time to start pulling.
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trav389
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2/17/2020 4:32am
Is the DEP silencer the MX one or the 250x Enduro silencer?
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2/18/2020 3:30am
trav389 wrote:
Is the DEP silencer the MX one or the 250x Enduro silencer?
That looks like the one I had on mine which was the standard length one. The enduro one is longer and there is a shorty version too
2/20/2020 9:07am
trav389 wrote:
Is the DEP silencer the MX one or the 250x Enduro silencer?
chump6784 wrote:
That looks like the one I had on mine which was the standard length one. The enduro one is longer and there is a shorty version...
That looks like the one I had on mine which was the standard length one. The enduro one is longer and there is a shorty version too
yes, it's the standard yz DEP silencer. it's about 3cm shorter than the HGS enduro silencer
3/1/2020 3:41pm
Have you ever tried a PPS pipe? Do you ever have problems with your transmission? Do you ride ONK in 2018?
3/1/2020 9:28pm
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Have you ever tried a PPS pipe? Do you ever have problems with your transmission? Do you ride ONK in 2018?
Yes I had a PPS pipe 2 years ago on my 2007 bike.
We tested a PPS on my 2018 on the dyno also.
It had less torque than the HGS but more overrev.
I didn't like it on the track because I had to use the clutch more coming out of the corners compared to the HGS.
I'm not riding ONK, I'm not that fast 😀.
Since I broke my wrist badly in 2016 I ride more for pleasure. I will ride some clubcross races and maybe the OZK later this year in the Netherlands.
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3/22/2020 11:39pm
I had the chance to ride my bike, not on a practice track because all the tracks are closed due to the corona virus.

So it was just on a flat piece of dirt at a local farmer.

I first rode the bike like it was the last time, HGS pipe, OEM flywheel. It was fast and lifted the front end a lot coming out of the corners.

Then I put the DEP pipe on it, it was a bit easier coming out of the corners, the front wheel didn't lift so easy.

After that I tried the GYTR 8.4oz flywheel I bought a few weeks ago. The gears are more spread and the bike is more
predictable.

I've put the HGS pipe back on when I rode the last time and for sand tracks I think the GYTR flywheel + HGS pipe is the best combo. On a hard pack track the DEP may be better because it has a little bit less torque.

It was not so easy to test all this on a simple flat 'track' I need to ride the bike more on different tracks, I hope the corona virus is gone soon...

Also the titianium footpegs on 24MX were on sale, I couldn't resist to buy them at 84 euros.
The grip feels good, I hope they don't eat my boots too fast :D













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3/23/2020 3:47am
Hello, Where did you get the griptape for youre subframe? I am building my yz125 for the regiocross zuid-oost. If it is going to start due the corona virus. Too bad I missed out on the sale on the footpegs.
3/23/2020 3:54am
Hello, Where did you get the griptape for youre subframe? I am building my yz125 for the regiocross zuid-oost. If it is going to start due...
Hello, Where did you get the griptape for youre subframe? I am building my yz125 for the regiocross zuid-oost. If it is going to start due the corona virus. Too bad I missed out on the sale on the footpegs.
the griptape is cut from a sheet of griptape for skate boards, if you are patient, the footpegs may come on sale again later this year. The price changes almost every week..
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3/23/2020 1:16pm
Have you ever had a problem with the bottom pipe bracket breaking on the HGS? I just noticed mine has nearly snapped completely off and my mechanic has two yz's at the moment with broken mounts on the HGS pipes
3/23/2020 3:23pm
chump6784 wrote:
Have you ever had a problem with the bottom pipe bracket breaking on the HGS? I just noticed mine has nearly snapped completely off and my...
Have you ever had a problem with the bottom pipe bracket breaking on the HGS? I just noticed mine has nearly snapped completely off and my mechanic has two yz's at the moment with broken mounts on the HGS pipes
I had one mounting bracket that had to be welded just next to the bolt. It was because the vibration and a few crashes I think. Never had one that broke at the pipe itself..
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3/23/2020 6:26pm
chump6784 wrote:
Have you ever had a problem with the bottom pipe bracket breaking on the HGS? I just noticed mine has nearly snapped completely off and my...
Have you ever had a problem with the bottom pipe bracket breaking on the HGS? I just noticed mine has nearly snapped completely off and my mechanic has two yz's at the moment with broken mounts on the HGS pipes
I had one mounting bracket that had to be welded just next to the bolt. It was because the vibration and a few crashes I think...
I had one mounting bracket that had to be welded just next to the bolt. It was because the vibration and a few crashes I think. Never had one that broke at the pipe itself..
yeah thats where mine has broken. I have about 60 hours on it so not too disappointed and I really like the pipe. Hoping I can get it welded and it isn't too damaged, it was only just hanging on when I saw it
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7/4/2020 6:01am Edited Date/Time 7/4/2020 6:03am
During the corona lockdown I searched and bought a lot of stuff to make a complete second engine.

I had a lot of stuff of my previous bike that blow up the engine because the rod broke.

I had installed a new OEM rod on the crank, new bearings, seals, 3 new shift forks, 2 new gears,...

I found a athena 300cc big bore kit also because my 250 cylinder was completely wasted.

Already have 3 hours on it now and like how the bike handles, easy to ride, enough torque to take corners in 3th gear

athena forged 71.96mm piston vs stock 250 66.35mm piston
























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nicko-31
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7/6/2020 10:39am
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Bike looks awesome! Just curious, 2007 looked clean. Why did you go with new one, just wanted to start fresh?
Thanks! Yes the 2007 was very well maintained but had some bad luck with a broken rod after 36 hours, then I bought a complete other...
Thanks! Yes the 2007 was very well maintained but had some bad luck with a broken rod after 36 hours, then I bought a complete other engine from a 2014. complete rebuild it but then the gearbox broke after 3 hours(gears were not new but very well checked) So after that was replaced I looked around for a left over new bike.

I had the chance to buy a 2018 ant thought it was the moment for a new one after having the 2007 for 7 years.

Sold the 2007 to a friend and the bike still runs good.
Do you know weather the broken rod was aftermarket or OEM? Thanks
7/7/2020 12:15pm
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Do you know weather the broken rod was aftermarket or OEM? Thanks
The rod was a hot rods on the OEM crankshaft. Now I only use OEM rods..
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cdoggy81
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7/7/2020 2:59pm
The rod was a hot rods on the OEM crankshaft. Now I only use OEM rods..
No surprises there! Smart decision moving fw 😉👍🏻
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7/9/2020 1:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/12/2020 11:43am
Last weekend I rode @ Vlissingen NL, new track to me. I put the DEP pipe on with the athena big bore kit.

Works very well, very strong power in the midrange and keeps pulling,
Maybe I switch back soon to the 250 engine to compare them







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo1LAuVRLwQ&t
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7/9/2020 10:33pm
It looks nice. I dont know where you are from in belgium but have you ever ridden at Veldhoven?
7/11/2020 1:56am
It looks nice. I dont know where you are from in belgium but have you ever ridden at Veldhoven?
Thanks!

I live in West Flanders but ride more in the Netherlands then in Belgium.

Yes I was there back in 2017 with my yz250 and last year I was there to test the Sherco bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNwZenE3nY8&t=
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7/11/2020 6:56am
Last weekend I rode @ Vlissingen NL, new track to me. I put the DEP pipe on with the athena big bore kit. Works very well...
Last weekend I rode @ Vlissingen NL, new track to me. I put the DEP pipe on with the athena big bore kit.

Works very well, very strong power in the midrange and keeps pulling,
Maybe I switch back soon to the 250 engine to compare them







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo1LAuVRLwQ&t
Thanks for posting. Your bike sounds great.!
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7/24/2020 1:02am
Why are you already selling the 300 engine? Did you like the 250 more?
7/24/2020 9:06am
Why are you already selling the 300 engine? Did you like the 250 more?
I have build the extra engine because I had a lot of parts lying on the shelf and wanted to do something with it.(and because of the corona lockdown I had time to build an engine)

The engine is for sale but only for the right price, I just don't need 2 engines because I only ride 15-20 hours a year..

The big bore 300 is easier to ride than my 250, it has power delivery ideal for enduro
5/15/2021 6:22am
Long time since I've posted something...

Put a new piston on the bike a few weeks ago, The OEM piston out of the parts kit had 17 hours.
Bought a vertex size B and drilled 2 holes to lube the exhaust bridges.



At the same time also put a VHM head on with their stock insert(20.6cc)





Have rode the bike once now and can't really tell the difference between the stock milled head and the VHM head.
Compression was a bit lower with the VHM head measured with the previous piston.

Also have the new HGS silencer with the carbon end cap. The bike feels a bit snappier with this silencer but still has decent overrev.





Also my 2007 project bike is almost ready..








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5/16/2021 10:21am
Finished the 2007 project bike today, been working on it since august last year.
Complete rebuild from the frame up.

Wish I had more time to do builds like this...




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chump6784
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5/17/2021 3:59am
Man that HGS silencer with carbon end cap is pretty. Kinda glad I sold my my yz or I'd have to buy one too
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