I-5 MX track horror story?

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Just heard a nightmare tale from a friend about a lawsuit at one of the local tracks I-5 MX ... aka Gorman ( in Calif. ).

Apparently a young kid ( but an experienced racer hoping to go the whole route ) crashed off of a small jump and had a catastrophic injury. From what I heard the parents retained a shark that has sued practically everyone and their 3rd cousin over this.

Didn't sound like there was any neglect whatsoever on the track's part. A lot of it sounded familiar from the Rich Cain affair ( trying to deny signing the waiver, unsafe jump design, etc. ).

Anyone know more about it or the future of the track? I'd hate to see that track go away.


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lil hanny256
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5/21/2009 9:39am
i rode that track a couple months ago on my way back to washington and oh my it was so sketchy. they dont keep good enough care of it and need water on it, but i could be wrong it may be better now.
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5/21/2009 10:08am Edited Date/Time 5/21/2009 12:20pm
I grew up racing on that track, they've always done a good job. I was there before they put in the sweet tower and that huge garage deal. Isn' t it on gov't land? I don't know, but I would think they have the resources to fight someone trying to shut the place down.
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It is a hard pack track but they normally groom and water it pretty good. Never seen anything I would consider dangerous there.

No one has heard about this? Apparently the list of people/companies being sued is quite extensive.




5/21/2009 10:10am
With parents investing so much in their kids careers, if the kids don't make it they have to get their money back somehow.....

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5/21/2009 10:17am
That is awful! That track is a gem and I have NEVER seen any neglect on their part. Kind of ironic the parents are suing a track while grooming their kid to be a MX star ....what they didn't know the sport wasn't dangerous? Every time I hear a story like this it infuriates me!!!

A couple months ago I got hurt bad REAL BAD out at Perris spent the weekend in the hospital with a list of injuries that would take forever to list ...today I still havent ridden and keep getting more and more problems as a result ...hopefully one day I will be able to ride again but im not sure. My point is that the jump I crashed on was far from safe and pretty beat up from all the pro's riding that day ....there is no one to blame for my accident, I rode ther and got hurt doing a dangerous sport and not one time to this day have I considered suing the track over this....it's just sad to hear people can find lawyers and judges that will rule in their favor thus closing down our already scarce riding areas
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5/21/2009 10:18am
People are getting unrealistic... Hello...... motocross is dangerous... you can and will get hurt trying to go fast .
Sue yourself for participating in a dangerous activity and leave the tracks to the people that assume the risk...

This shit drives me crazy..
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5/21/2009 10:26am
Rode there a few times, I like it, one guy in our group broke both his femurs doing something nobody else was doing that day...
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5/21/2009 10:42am
I ran races there for years and if you don't know how to or properly groom that place it can be dangerous. Not all people sue to get a head, they sue cause the shitty Medical Insurance industry charges ridiculous prices to get better and people are forced to sue, I see it all the time. That's why you have liability insurance at your events and good liability insurance at that.

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5/21/2009 10:46am
no such thing as a sketchy jump. Only riders that make bad decisions.


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5/21/2009 11:05am
Like the others said. When riders go over the same terrain thousands of times over and over and have no problems add to that they continue to have no problems, you have to look at the contributing factor to the injury. So, when you eliminate all possibilities the facts lay present. The most compelling factor is the answer.

Rider Error.
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5/21/2009 11:10am
I don't care how gnarly it is, or dangerous it is.

Operator trouble.
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5/21/2009 11:59am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:01am
Justin Eubanks is the kid who got hurt, ive been friends with him for many years..

The eubanks family are the last people to ever sue anyone over anything, theyre hardcore moto people (dad has been into mx all his life, mom was a scorekeeper and promoter) justin was an upcoming pro (just turned intermediate and on team green kawasaki) and is now vegtablized.. cant talk/walk and is in a wheelchair..

5/21/2009 12:06pm
If you don't want to get hurt ,don't ride.
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Justin Eubanks is the kid who got hurt, ive been friends with him for many years.. The eubanks family are the last people to ever sue...
Justin Eubanks is the kid who got hurt, ive been friends with him for many years..

The eubanks family are the last people to ever sue anyone over anything, theyre hardcore moto people (dad has been into mx all his life, mom was a scorekeeper and promoter) justin was an upcoming pro (just turned intermediate and on team green kawasaki) and is now vegtablized.. cant talk/walk and is in a wheelchair..

Refer to post 1.
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Justin Eubanks is the kid who got hurt, ive been friends with him for many years.. The eubanks family are the last people to ever sue...
Justin Eubanks is the kid who got hurt, ive been friends with him for many years..

The eubanks family are the last people to ever sue anyone over anything, theyre hardcore moto people (dad has been into mx all his life, mom was a scorekeeper and promoter) justin was an upcoming pro (just turned intermediate and on team green kawasaki) and is now vegtablized.. cant talk/walk and is in a wheelchair..

I'm confused ... are you saying there is no law suit?

I don't claim to have all the facts on this ... but from what I was told they hired an extremely aggressive attorney ... who basically sued everyone in sight ... and then some. People that had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Do you know more about it? It's terrible that he had such a bad crash but it sounds like he was a very experienced rider. Short of some glaring neglect by the track owner, what is there to sue over?
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txmxer wrote:
no such thing as a sketchy jump. Only riders that make bad decisions.


x2. Im sure most of us and been on the end of the bad decision part and accepted that it was our fault for trying it.
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5/21/2009 1:40pm
txmxer wrote:
no such thing as a sketchy jump. Only riders that make bad decisions.


Foster576 wrote:
x2. Im sure most of us and been on the end of the bad decision part and accepted that it was our fault for trying it.
It always sucks and is tragic when someone gets jacked up.

But, we choose to ride.

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5/21/2009 1:46pm
http://i5mx.com/

"Some of the rumors are true and there is a very good chance the track will be closed starting Thursday May 28, 2009
Daphne Greene is someone who can influence this decision.
Her email is dgreene@parks.ca.gov
Please take a minute out of your busy day to write to her and encourage her to keep the track open."
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5/21/2009 1:53pm
I cannot remember ever crashing where I thought that I didn't make a mistake.

I suppose the Reynard crash when the equipment operate entered the track (I believe that's the story) was one of the few times I think someone was negligent.
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zjbell wrote:
http://i5mx.com/ "Some of the rumors are true and there is a very good chance the track will be closed starting Thursday May 28, 2009 Daphne Greene...
http://i5mx.com/

"Some of the rumors are true and there is a very good chance the track will be closed starting Thursday May 28, 2009
Daphne Greene is someone who can influence this decision.
Her email is dgreene@parks.ca.gov
Please take a minute out of your busy day to write to her and encourage her to keep the track open."
I'm happy to email her but can you give a little more info.

Why am I emailing her? What are the issues?
What actually happened?
Who is she?
What is her role? Etc, etc.

If I had to guess I imagine she is with the State Parks Dept and is looking to pull the permit of the track operator? But I'd rather not guess at all this if I am going to write her. It's always more effective when one has the basic facts straight.


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5/21/2009 4:03pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:02am
I went to the to the I-5 site that had dgreene's name and a link to send a mail.....

Link didn't work for me.

The toughest part of the sport is hearing news like this.
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Everyone sues for every injury whether on a dirt bike, skateboard, walking everything. This is no surpise.
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oh now i know how i am gonna make up all the money i am out for snapping my
achilles tendon. i built my track i ride my track and i am gonna sue my ass off i
am negligent i didnot twist my right hand hard enough bastard where is my lawyer.
oh and the throttel stuck half wide open and i wanted one more ride on a worn tire
and i have a scratch on my fender damn i am gonna get rich if i get a good lawyer.
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I got the following in an e-mail today. It's time to use the power of email to hopefully make a difference. Remember, nice, polite, businesslike emails, please...



Today is the last day that the I-5 MX track is scheduled to be open. From what I understand, they finally secure insurance to keep it open and now the State of California is not willing to renew the lease. This delay could mean two or more years of the track being closed.

Daphne Greene is someone who can influence this decision. Her e-mail is dgreene@parks.ca.gov. Please take a minute out of your busy day to write to her and encourage her to keep the track open. Everyone I am e-mailing is involved the MC industry and I don’t have to tell how hard it is to get new areas to ride. Let’s try to keep the ones we have active.
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5/21/2009 4:29pm
It sucks to here this type of news. I can only imagine the hardships the family is going thru.If they are suing because the track is dangerous,why was he riding there inthe first place?
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i know alot about justins injury, and my dad talked to his dad about the law suit yesterday.. but i dont know anything about it
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i know alot about justins injury, and my dad talked to his dad about the law suit yesterday.. but i dont know anything about it
I would be willing to write a letter to Daphne Greene if I knew a little bit more about the whole situation. Devin, can you ask your dad for some info on what the law suit is about?
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I've had my share of crashes due to stupid stuff, unfinished jumps, bales left on the track, bikes left on landings and no flaggers. Broken femur, back and wrist from such things. All of my broken bones are from those things actually... interesting.

"Shit happens."

A few years ago I5MX was amazing, more recently the best description I can give it is "Shitbox." No flaggers, little to no track prep or maintenance. Nice fancy garage and toilets though, they even have gatorade/soda machines that steal your money.

I live 30minutes up the road and don't care either way, Id rather drive past it and ride somewhere else, but for the bigger picture I hope the track stays in place. Any track closure isn't good for the sport in general.

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