Name The Track

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Edited Date/Time 2/4/2022 6:20am

Anyone know this place?
Sorry for the poor quality, best my scanner could do.
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PN27416 11/11/2014 6:07pm
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Fogelsville Pa, former Allentown national?
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viking24 11/13/2014 7:59am
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Correct!...I guess being from Orefield, that one was easy.

The 1976 Pennsylvania National. Track was commonly referred to as Fogelsville or Seipstown. The cool story I had heard about the place was it was designed by Gerrit Wolsink. The Limontour Bros who owned Allentown Suzuki found the land and promoted the races. They had a connection with Suzuki, being one of the bigger dealers on the east. When Wolsink was in the area for a Trans-Ama race he was brought out to valley and laid out that epic track.
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Ardfarkl 11/13/2014 8:03am
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Looks killer!
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PN27416 11/13/2014 9:28am
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I'm not a native to the area and didn't come here till long after the place was gone. But have become very interested since I live less then 10 minutes away. Bought the MXA the national write up was in and believe I spoke with one of the Limontour bros. years ago. He was wearing an Allentown Maico jersey so I approached him at a swap meet. Believe that is RT22, now interstate 78 in the background. Was the track off Church rd which turns int Seipstown road just east of Seipstown? I would love to drive by and take a look. I know I have been past but just not sure where exactly I should be looking.
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Tdub13 11/13/2014 9:37am
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I wonder how many VitalMX'ers are zooming in on Google Earth right now. That track looks amazing. Would be cool if it weren't all condo's by now. Someone post a pic of the area please.
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Shawbridge Husky 11/13/2014 10:13am
11/13/2014 10:13am
Imagine riding that track on a modern open class four stroke ? Those long up hills WFO must of been a blast ! Nothing like a natural terrain track, by far my favorite type.
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Tdub13 11/13/2014 10:53am
11/13/2014 10:53am Edited Date/Time 11/13/2014 10:55am
Still there... North of the highway, west of town. Looks like K-9 Kampus is right in the middle of the track. Looks like some of the track is still there too.



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domoguchi 11/14/2014 8:13am
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Allentown National. Used yo ride that track often. Freakin awesome place and the hill section was not doable if it rained....
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Rtoth160 12/29/2014 11:24am
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viking24 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/11/11/70267/s1200_track.jpg[/img] Anyone know this place? Sorry for the poor quality, best my scanner could do.

Anyone know this place?
Sorry for the poor quality, best my scanner could do.
I was there about 2 years ago and some of the old snow fence is still on the up hills
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Rtoth160 12/29/2014 11:27am
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I was also told the starting gate was still there,but I couldn't find it
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Tdub13 12/29/2014 11:40am
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Pretty cool that you got to walk the old track! I would be on the hunt for pieces and parts hidden in the leaves lol!

Looks like the starting gate would be about the same location as the building on the left looking south.
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Rtoth160 12/29/2014 11:52am
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There was alot of old motorcycle tires
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Tdub13 wrote:
Still there... North of the highway, west of town. Looks like K-9 Kampus is right in the middle of the track. Looks like some of the...
Still there... North of the highway, west of town. Looks like K-9 Kampus is right in the middle of the track. Looks like some of the track is still there too.



Any chance you could share the pic again? 2020 now and curious if it’s still there or not. Can’t find it on google earth. Wondering cause I’m only 20 min from Seipstown
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jsold77 2/9/2020 9:31pm
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Tdub13 wrote:
Still there... North of the highway, west of town. Looks like K-9 Kampus is right in the middle of the track. Looks like some of the...
Still there... North of the highway, west of town. Looks like K-9 Kampus is right in the middle of the track. Looks like some of the track is still there too.



any chance you could post that pic again? 2020 now and curious if it’s still there cause of only living 20 min away
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Tdub13 2/10/2020 12:37pm
2/10/2020 12:37pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2020 12:41pm
I think it's at the end of Folk Rd.. Actually, the building in the middle of the picture.
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Tdub13 2/10/2020 12:40pm
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Picture is exactly Upside down. South us up.
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Tdub13 2/10/2020 12:45pm
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Google Earth 1992
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viking24 2/10/2020 12:55pm
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Impressive how the tracks was still visible 15 years later. No doubt that place was poached for years by locals
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viking24 2/10/2020 1:03pm
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Driving up either Folk or Tercha Rd, you really cant get a good look into the valley were the track was. With foliage down this time of year you can a little visual. There are a couple farm access roads that lead to the valley. If your brave, you can drive back one of them and have a look.
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Tdub13 2/10/2020 1:26pm
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Wish I lived closer! Guess I was bored that day back in 2014 when I looked on google earth. Would love to kick the dirt until I found a souvenir. The old bikes chucked parts off constantly (still do). Imagine tripping over a half buried silencer or side panel haha.
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jsold77 2/10/2020 5:23pm
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viking24 wrote:
Driving up either Folk or Tercha Rd, you really cant get a good look into the valley were the track was. With foliage down this time...
Driving up either Folk or Tercha Rd, you really cant get a good look into the valley were the track was. With foliage down this time of year you can a little visual. There are a couple farm access roads that lead to the valley. If your brave, you can drive back one of them and have a look.
Thanks guys, maybe one day I’ll explore a little bit. Like I said it’s about 20 min from my house. Would be awesome to see about getting permission to ride there
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jsold77 2/10/2020 5:27pm
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viking24 wrote:
Driving up either Folk or Tercha Rd, you really cant get a good look into the valley were the track was. With foliage down this time...
Driving up either Folk or Tercha Rd, you really cant get a good look into the valley were the track was. With foliage down this time of year you can a little visual. There are a couple farm access roads that lead to the valley. If your brave, you can drive back one of them and have a look.
Probably not with that house being there tho lol
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Mark_Hillanbrand 1/21/2022 10:11pm
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So back in the day, I worked for Allentown Suzuki in the latter 70’s. The brothers Pepe and Julio were very well connected in the MX world. Old school mx’r Tony Distefano would regularly stop in along with the legend Ivan Boyesen. Ivan was still working in his garage before he had his patent for the Boyesen Reed valve, which we all now know was the most important innovation in motocross history. He launched and became a very wealthy man as we all know. During those days Pep and Julio wanted to promote and build a track that would rival the beast of the East, “Unadilla”. Well guess what, that happened! Seipstown as we called it, was a so called European track and one of the finest in its time. Designed by Wolsink but loved and groomed by the Allentown Suzuki fellows, it was bad ass! The 76 National was jammed and I will never forget it. My best recollection of that weekend was Harley Davidson team DNF’d and was the end of there motocross endeavors . I rode that track with Pep and Julio on there Maico’s and me on my RM125 back in the day. What a blast and amazing memories! This track should and could have rivaled any track in the world!
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I was at the PMP National when at age 16. I have pics of it and will try to post them when I can locate them. It was a great local track. I never bought a bike from Allentown Suzuki, but did order a set of custom Hallman leathers and Heckel boots from them back in '75 or '76. It was a really cool dealership to stop in back then.
profeshenal125 2/4/2022 6:20am
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PN27416 wrote:
I'm not a native to the area and didn't come here till long after the place was gone. But have become very interested since I live...
I'm not a native to the area and didn't come here till long after the place was gone. But have become very interested since I live less then 10 minutes away. Bought the MXA the national write up was in and believe I spoke with one of the Limontour bros. years ago. He was wearing an Allentown Maico jersey so I approached him at a swap meet. Believe that is RT22, now interstate 78 in the background. Was the track off Church rd which turns int Seipstown road just east of Seipstown? I would love to drive by and take a look. I know I have been past but just not sure where exactly I should be looking.
Just follow this sign
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PN27416 2/7/2022 1:56pm
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PN27416 wrote:
I'm not a native to the area and didn't come here till long after the place was gone. But have become very interested since I live...
I'm not a native to the area and didn't come here till long after the place was gone. But have become very interested since I live less then 10 minutes away. Bought the MXA the national write up was in and believe I spoke with one of the Limontour bros. years ago. He was wearing an Allentown Maico jersey so I approached him at a swap meet. Believe that is RT22, now interstate 78 in the background. Was the track off Church rd which turns int Seipstown road just east of Seipstown? I would love to drive by and take a look. I know I have been past but just not sure where exactly I should be looking.
profeshenal125 wrote:
Just follow this sign [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/04/532087/s1200_BFC59D89_3F7F_4034_8D5F_864CC85CCA56.jpg[/img]
Just follow this sign
That will get you with 5-6 miles. Its right off RT22
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Tokyo_Tiddler 2/12/2022 9:26am
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Man that track looks awesomely fun, like the old days.. nothing more fun than going up and down hills on an MX bike.

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