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I just want to see a 2 stroke option that is equivalent to the 4 strokes in use today.
Is the YZ325 that equivalent option? Maybe we'll see. One would think there is no way it could be since the chassis has had no development since, what 2006?
I hope Alessi on the YZ325 this weekend at least opens some eyes.
Let the consumers decide which style engine they prefer.
Of course consumers picked the four strokes, when the big 4 manufacturers stopped development of the 2 stroke and the only way to get a 'new' bike was going to be a 4 stroke. Few want 2, 5 or 10 year old technology when they can have the most current.
The marketing worked exactly like it was supposed to.
Another case of planned obsolescence.
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My point is simply that if a top level racer wanted to compete against the 450s on a 2 stroke, his only choice is to do what Alessi is doing here. Take a bike that was never fully developed by the factory and do the best he can with it on his (or the programs) budget.
I have little doubt that the KTM 250 SX is the best available 2 stroke MX bike today. But still, KTM hasn't said 'let's put the time, effort & money in it so that it is as good as our 450s'.
I want to see KTM or somebody do that.
Regardless I am THRILLED for anyone to be trying it, that is what the Open Rulebook is about and it's about time we got to see something different and hopefully exciting. I feel like we were close with Mookie last year on the Alta if the battery could have held up?
Alessi on the YZ ESR 325 from 4:15 to 5:40 Minute marks. Looks pretty good, the Tight Track in this area should be better for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieyjqiQ0LX4
A monopoly would be one company buying up a whole lot of smaller companies to eventually have an unfair control over the market, tipping the scales and making it difficult for companies to compete on a level field.
like Amazon has done. Not having one type of engine type manufactured by multiple different manufacturers
1 - Handicap Class Racing
Or:
2 - Sheltered Workshop Class Racing
Now you, being an Aussie, Know equivalency means the 4ts do not get slaughtered - they are more than competitive with same sized 2ts - hell, they've had a lot of years of development and isolation, through rules, from other ICE 'threats'. It, Equivalency, just gives great, more interesting racing.
With ESR and Mike Alessi, it's good to see someone taking a tilt at things, though (with respect - but there will be twonkers that get upset with this), it's a Pro probably past his prime, on, what is, effectively, a modified 2005 model bike with a big bore kit. Anyone think a 450 4t of that vintage design and rider combo would do particularly well?
I've written many, many times - the company that brings out a Modern 2t that would come under an 'Equivalent 450' class ruling, would have a good seller on their model listing. But, it's far easier to just square up an existing 250, and call it a 'big bike'. Which, it is not.
Heck , even without a MX Sports 450 or Luongo/FIM MX1 class tick, I've always said a 350 / 400/ 430 - whatever size up to 450cc 2t could be a good addition to a few manufacturers line ups. Simple (even a FI / TPI 2t is still infinitely simpler than a modern 4t), durable, easy to ride, easy to work on, light, and fun. And, very, very easy to have it relatively mellow, in power delivery, but very powerful, or wild, for the 'he men' that must have their hard to ride 'hit'. Those, will, generally, the ones at the back, tying themselves in knots.........
Equivalency in all classes, at all level of racing, is what we should have, not this BS of double the capacity and 1.80 times capacity.
The 2-stroke on the highest level of MX or SX racing is dead, and that isn't because of the rules, some conspiracy etc. On the other hand it thrives in the world of offroad and hard enduro which is nice to see.
Yes, when the majority of major manufactures only make 4ts, that's what will be raced, and won with. And, the same with the manufacturers who do make 2ts, but still mainly back their 4ts in MX. Weight of numbers etc.
And, backing of bikes goes down through to dealer level - eg, manufacturers / distributors offering far less of a 'racers discount' on their 2ts, when compared to their equivalent 4t models . It all effects the bikes we see on the start lines in State, National and International series. Hell, here in OZ a KTM 250SX has the same price as a 250SXF...... now that's just wrong. At least in the US, the more expensive bike to make, costs more than the less expensive one to make........ We do get reamed by KTM / KTHusky here in OZ.
I've no illusions about racing. It's why you'll Never read a post of mine raving about 2t domination. That's for the drongos who just don't seem to understand just how good modern 4ts are, and the overwhelming backing 4ts have, through the rules that enabled sales takeover. .
You think that 4ts would have come to the fore in Motocross, if 125 4ts had to race against 125 2ts, 250 4ts against 250 2ts, etc, from the very start of the 4t 'revolution' ?
They needed such skewed rules to make them so much better, for most riders. They have not needed the Handicap advantage for damned near One and a Half decades now.
No, I don't think there would be a wholesale change over back to 2ts with Full Equivalency, but, we might just have a bit more retention of Riders and Teams (at all levels) and better, more interesting racing, with, gradually, a more even spread of ICE types on tracks.
Oh, Jamie Dunn won an EMX250 overall at the French GP, a couple of seasons ago. You, being a Euro / Finn, surely would know that. I think, one of 2 2ts, in the class that day - or, the only one.
PS : as well as the Sainte Jean, Maggiora and 'Cute Lil Teut' (what my GF calls it) GPs, I'm hoping to come back for Lommel, with a stay in Denmark(mine) and Poland (GFs) with relos, then Uddevala and Litti-KymiRing GPs, so, I might be in your home country, next year .
Why give these turds 10 seconds of coverage?
I was so excited for mookies return but I just cant bring myself to cheer for these dinks.
I was told years ago that there may be about 400 qty ESR 325 Kits out there, but only Eddie knows for sure. He did move from Pismo Beach, Ca, to Oregon "Coastal area" because of the Communists California Taxes and Regulations.
So I have said this before and will again, this is the Best Value MX/Off-Road Motorcycle for most people that don't want to spend massively on a "Fun Sport".
As far as people complaining about any post, I could care Less! If they want to Censor me they can get there own Platform like China and do it!
Keep in mind, "Nobody can hurt your feelings unless you let them"!
Bottom line I love my bike, and any complainers can F.. Off and Die!
Lol!
Pit Row
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jaw2GM7IqmM
How soon people forget that he tried to injure someone.
But a ESR 325 moved up to 16th, then finished where he started in 19th. For a 2007/2008 Technology Bike that cost about 50% of the others you can't complain.
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