2019 MXoN - Practice/Qualifying Discussion

dirtwalker 9/28/2019 3:41pm
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Underground wrote:
Hasn't been a great year at all for Dean
Drop-Bear wrote:
Which begs the question. Why is he even on the team
Helda wrote:
Still the fastest MX rider in Aus
“Dean’s average year” is more about off the track for me. On the track he is / has been fast. Didn’t gel well with the yamaha in the US unfortunately. But plenty of “better” riders have had the same problem on that 450.
Still not his best ride, but hopefully a couple more changes to the bike and he can step it up a bit. Even just avoiding the bad luck Australia nearly always has would be good.
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Twiglet 9/28/2019 3:50pm
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I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson -recovering by racing abroad, Ferrandis-(better choice than Cooper-ask me tomorrow evening) Marvin who lately??? Racing MXON is a F**K yeah I'm in 100% Never mind I beat the East coast or West coast, Won the Outdoors.........You have not represented until you have beat the best in the world. Heck.... I won the American trials.......I'm the best...............IN AMERICA. The worlds bigger than that and thankfully you have JA, ZO and JC representing you at MXON
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jorgechavez 9/28/2019 3:58pm
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Twiglet wrote:
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson...
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson -recovering by racing abroad, Ferrandis-(better choice than Cooper-ask me tomorrow evening) Marvin who lately??? Racing MXON is a F**K yeah I'm in 100% Never mind I beat the East coast or West coast, Won the Outdoors.........You have not represented until you have beat the best in the world. Heck.... I won the American trials.......I'm the best...............IN AMERICA. The worlds bigger than that and thankfully you have JA, ZO and JC representing you at MXON
What injury is Roczen recovering from by racing a two stroke next weekend? Your comment on Deano doesn’t even make sense, he raced Montreal two weeks ago. You’re just making excuses for the guys you don’t want to criticize.

Don’t try and act unbiased when you so blatantly are.
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Underground wrote:
Hasn't been a great year at all for Dean
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Which begs the question. Why is he even on the team
Helda wrote:
Still the fastest MX rider in Aus
There’s a couple brothers in the USA that might have something to say about that.
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jeffro503 9/28/2019 4:12pm
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I thought racing today was excellent. Great Brittan , the Aussie's , Netherland's , Belgium , Italy , USA......all had some good results for some of their riders. It didn't really look like a " walk a way " from anyone really , and the way this event works......I think we're all in for a great race tomorrow.

That being said.......good luck to all your teams , and lets all hope everyone gets out healthy!
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Twiglet wrote:
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson...
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson -recovering by racing abroad, Ferrandis-(better choice than Cooper-ask me tomorrow evening) Marvin who lately??? Racing MXON is a F**K yeah I'm in 100% Never mind I beat the East coast or West coast, Won the Outdoors.........You have not represented until you have beat the best in the world. Heck.... I won the American trials.......I'm the best...............IN AMERICA. The worlds bigger than that and thankfully you have JA, ZO and JC representing you at MXON
Jesus Christ just stop already. Another miserable Brit. What was your old screen name?
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Nuffsaid 9/28/2019 4:15pm
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Twiglet wrote:
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson...
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson -recovering by racing abroad, Ferrandis-(better choice than Cooper-ask me tomorrow evening) Marvin who lately??? Racing MXON is a F**K yeah I'm in 100% Never mind I beat the East coast or West coast, Won the Outdoors.........You have not represented until you have beat the best in the world. Heck.... I won the American trials.......I'm the best...............IN AMERICA. The worlds bigger than that and thankfully you have JA, ZO and JC representing you at MXON
Ironic that all the riders you mentioned couldn’t or wouldn’t ride for the USA
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Twiglet 9/28/2019 4:20pm
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What injury is Roczen recovering from by racing a two stroke next weekend? Your comment on Deano doesn’t even make sense, he raced Montreal two weeks...
What injury is Roczen recovering from by racing a two stroke next weekend? Your comment on Deano doesn’t even make sense, he raced Montreal two weeks ago. You’re just making excuses for the guys you don’t want to criticize.

Don’t try and act unbiased when you so blatantly are.
I criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXON. Step up and race for your country, money or schedule should be no object. If you do not believe that then, you are on the wrong thread. How the hell do you turn it down???I'm the best in America so surely I'M the best in the world? Really....Prove it, show the world that AMA is the best. I grew up buying Motocross action a week later than America just to read about Ward, O'Mara, Johnson, Bailey Etc. I was in awe of the American riders. They stepped up, if the current best riders do not value the MXON then stay at home and remove America from MXON. If not then send the best you have, anything less is dis-respectful regardless of what other countries do.
Taking all that i have said into account, that is why I have huge respect for the team that traveled over to Europe and are representing Team USA
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Helda 9/28/2019 4:25pm
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Drop-Bear wrote:
Which begs the question. Why is he even on the team
Helda wrote:
Still the fastest MX rider in Aus
fanger wrote:
There’s a couple brothers in the USA that might have something to say about that.
I hope so! When was the last one we podiumed
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Twiglet 9/28/2019 4:25pm
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Ironic that all the riders you mentioned couldn’t or wouldn’t ride for the USA
Was not me that mentioned them, i was just replying to a previous post
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Helda 9/28/2019 4:26pm
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Drop-Bear wrote:
Which begs the question. Why is he even on the team
Helda wrote:
Still the fastest MX rider in Aus
fanger wrote:
There’s a couple brothers in the USA that might have something to say about that.
Lol do you think Hunter and Jett are top 10 450 AMA MX riders? There fast but not as fast as Ferris, they will get there through Jett is about top 5 250 pace
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jorgechavez 9/28/2019 4:27pm
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Twiglet wrote:
I criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXON. Step up and race for your country, money or schedule should...
I criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXON. Step up and race for your country, money or schedule should be no object. If you do not believe that then, you are on the wrong thread. How the hell do you turn it down???I'm the best in America so surely I'M the best in the world? Really....Prove it, show the world that AMA is the best. I grew up buying Motocross action a week later than America just to read about Ward, O'Mara, Johnson, Bailey Etc. I was in awe of the American riders. They stepped up, if the current best riders do not value the MXON then stay at home and remove America from MXON. If not then send the best you have, anything less is dis-respectful regardless of what other countries do.
Taking all that i have said into account, that is why I have huge respect for the team that traveled over to Europe and are representing Team USA
Actually you do not "criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXoN", in fact you made excuses for the ones you did not want to criticize in the post I replied to by making things up lol. Racing a two stroke in an exhibition race is a very peculiar way to recover from an injury.
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Better be thankful the race is being held at this ‘crappy’ sand track. I miss the good old days as much as anyone, but If it...
Better be thankful the race is being held at this ‘crappy’ sand track.
I miss the good old days as much as anyone, but If it was at a traditional track, like for example Foxhills which is about an hour north of here, the race would’ve been cancelled by now and the trucks would currently be being towed out of the fields by tractor.
Yes, a sand track like Valkenswaard would hold up ok, and the paddock would be fairly manoeuvrable, but having been there on a few miserable weekends it’s safe to say that a roofed grandstand would’ve been a real treat.
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Different country! But agreed, although the weather looks shocking for tomorrow I wouldn’t be too dissapointed been a spectator, least they can keep dry. Hope it...
Different country! But agreed, although the weather looks shocking for tomorrow I wouldn’t be too dissapointed been a spectator, least they can keep dry. Hope it doesn’t put too many people off!
It’ll be tonight on Team USA if the weather nasty. If it’s nasty I’m calling a Nathan Watson win.
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mag250 9/28/2019 4:32pm
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Nuffsaid wrote:
Ironic that all the riders you mentioned couldn’t or wouldn’t ride for the USA
Twiglet wrote:
Was not me that mentioned them, i was just replying to a previous post
Yep you did

Twiglet wrote:

I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson -recovering by racing abroad, Ferrandis-(better choice than Cooper-ask me tomorrow evening)

Ferrandis cannot race for the USA so how his he a better choice over Cooper ?
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Twiglet 9/28/2019 4:33pm
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Step up and race for your country, money or schedule should be no object.
Errrm, how plain can I say it????
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mag250 9/28/2019 4:42pm
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Twiglet wrote:
Step up and race for your country, money or schedule should be no object.
Errrm, how plain can I say it????
Ferrandis cannot race for the USA so how his he a better choice over Cooper ?
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Twiglet 9/28/2019 4:44pm
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I have grown up in awe of American riders, stood next to A Brit at Ernee and when told the Americans did not stand a chance against Everts and Antonio gladly stated that if Carmichael gets a good start then the euros do not stand a chance...took my Sky tv box to the pub on a Sunday afternoon so my fellow weekend riders could witness Villopoto destroy the field.
Ive grown up witnessing the American domination of MXON, I just do not get where money and schedule took over. If you are an AMA champion and fit then get your ass to wherever the MXON is being held and represent, show the world who is the best, I thought that was the point of MXON
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Twiglet 9/28/2019 4:49pm
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Nuffsaid wrote:
Ironic that all the riders you mentioned couldn’t or wouldn’t ride for the USA
Twiglet wrote:
Was not me that mentioned them, i was just replying to a previous post
mag250 wrote:
Yep you did Twiglet wrote: I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice...
Yep you did

Twiglet wrote:

I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson -recovering by racing abroad, Ferrandis-(better choice than Cooper-ask me tomorrow evening)

Ferrandis cannot race for the USA so how his he a better choice over Cooper ?
Ferrandis cannot race for the USA so how his he a better choice over Cooper ?
Obviously not, I got a bit carried away Smile
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jorgechavez 9/28/2019 4:58pm
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Wew, way to back peddle there Twiglet.
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I'm Married, I've learned that back peddling is better than confronting, it leads to more sex
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Twiglet wrote:
I have grown up in awe of American riders, stood next to A Brit at Ernee and when told the Americans did not stand a chance...
I have grown up in awe of American riders, stood next to A Brit at Ernee and when told the Americans did not stand a chance against Everts and Antonio gladly stated that if Carmichael gets a good start then the euros do not stand a chance...took my Sky tv box to the pub on a Sunday afternoon so my fellow weekend riders could witness Villopoto destroy the field.
Ive grown up witnessing the American domination of MXON, I just do not get where money and schedule took over. If you are an AMA champion and fit then get your ass to wherever the MXON is being held and represent, show the world who is the best, I thought that was the point of MXON
Priorities are different for different riders. If your primary focus is the mxgp series then the mxon holds a lot more importance than in the AMA.

Times are unfortunately changing and budgets and titles are being raised in importance over one off events. Tomac knows his window of winning a sx title is closing and him and his team are focusing on that before his contract is up.

Hate him and Kawasaki all you want that have a goal they want to achieve and they are going all in.
It’s all over now and really shouldn’t be the focus of fans when you have three riders trying to do their best tomorrow.
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mxb2 9/28/2019 5:13pm
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Twiglet wrote:
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson...
I do not blame or judge them but ultimately who is the best???? represent your country or get paid, their choice, Kroc- recovering from injury, Wilson -recovering by racing abroad, Ferrandis-(better choice than Cooper-ask me tomorrow evening) Marvin who lately??? Racing MXON is a F**K yeah I'm in 100% Never mind I beat the East coast or West coast, Won the Outdoors.........You have not represented until you have beat the best in the world. Heck.... I won the American trials.......I'm the best...............IN AMERICA. The worlds bigger than that and thankfully you have JA, ZO and JC representing you at MXON
jorgechavez wrote:
What injury is Roczen recovering from by racing a two stroke next weekend? Your comment on Deano doesn’t even make sense, he raced Montreal two weeks...
What injury is Roczen recovering from by racing a two stroke next weekend? Your comment on Deano doesn’t even make sense, he raced Montreal two weeks ago. You’re just making excuses for the guys you don’t want to criticize.

Don’t try and act unbiased when you so blatantly are.
Yep, krocs 1-1 at dilla looked healthy enough, and i guess he isnt hurt to bad to race the 2 stroke race. Nice try. Though. What s marvin,ferrandis excuse ?beside being mad? And i bet some are even racing mec. Guess they think different than you, maybe you should tell them, deano is healthy and he chose to go race for $$. Imagine that. And now that you have it figured out . Go work for free4-5 weeks and spend 100k of your own money.
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mxb2 9/28/2019 5:15pm
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Twiglet wrote:
I criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXON. Step up and race for your country, money or schedule should...
I criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXON. Step up and race for your country, money or schedule should be no object. If you do not believe that then, you are on the wrong thread. How the hell do you turn it down???I'm the best in America so surely I'M the best in the world? Really....Prove it, show the world that AMA is the best. I grew up buying Motocross action a week later than America just to read about Ward, O'Mara, Johnson, Bailey Etc. I was in awe of the American riders. They stepped up, if the current best riders do not value the MXON then stay at home and remove America from MXON. If not then send the best you have, anything less is dis-respectful regardless of what other countries do.
Taking all that i have said into account, that is why I have huge respect for the team that traveled over to Europe and are representing Team USA
jorgechavez wrote:
Actually you do not "criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXoN", in fact you made excuses for the ones...
Actually you do not "criticize any of the riders that made excuses not to be at the MXoN", in fact you made excuses for the ones you did not want to criticize in the post I replied to by making things up lol. Racing a two stroke in an exhibition race is a very peculiar way to recover from an injury.
Yep,. Didnt reed break his leg there?
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dkg 9/28/2019 5:17pm
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Twiglet wrote:
I have grown up in awe of American riders, stood next to A Brit at Ernee and when told the Americans did not stand a chance...
I have grown up in awe of American riders, stood next to A Brit at Ernee and when told the Americans did not stand a chance against Everts and Antonio gladly stated that if Carmichael gets a good start then the euros do not stand a chance...took my Sky tv box to the pub on a Sunday afternoon so my fellow weekend riders could witness Villopoto destroy the field.
Ive grown up witnessing the American domination of MXON, I just do not get where money and schedule took over. If you are an AMA champion and fit then get your ass to wherever the MXON is being held and represent, show the world who is the best, I thought that was the point of MXON
Your back peddling comment is priceless. Frankly, I think the USA has sent it’s best team, the guys there are world class, highly motivated and made a commitment to the event. In my mind that qualifies as the best team.

Today’s racing, if anything, proved that we have a bunch of highly competitive teams. It’s going to be a great day of racing tomorrow.
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Press516 9/28/2019 5:24pm
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3:55am alarm is going to come early for us west coasters.... Who else is getting up early to watch live???
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Helda wrote:
Still the fastest MX rider in Aus
fanger wrote:
There’s a couple brothers in the USA that might have something to say about that.
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Lol do you think Hunter and Jett are top 10 450 AMA MX riders? There fast but not as fast as Ferris, they will get there...
Lol do you think Hunter and Jett are top 10 450 AMA MX riders? There fast but not as fast as Ferris, they will get there through Jett is about top 5 250 pace
Hunter yeah sure I reckon he’d had Ferris covered at this event, every time he has raced the mxon he has done really well.

I’ll admit Jett is a pretty big call, but considering he went 1-1 at the emx round on this track a couple of years ago makes it atleast a valid point to argue.
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dkg 9/28/2019 6:47pm
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3:55am alarm is going to come early for us west coasters.... Who else is getting up early to watch live???
Yep.
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Mr. Afterbar 9/28/2019 6:48pm
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Press516 wrote:
3:55am alarm is going to come early for us west coasters.... Who else is getting up early to watch live???
6AM for me, but I’ll be up and waiting!
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agn5009 9/28/2019 6:52pm
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Press516 wrote:
3:55am alarm is going to come early for us west coasters.... Who else is getting up early to watch live???
7 am for me. I work til 7am, so I’ll already be up. I’ll just have to rush home and stay awake half the day.
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shaffstall721 9/28/2019 8:07pm
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I got up at 4am today to watch live timing Laughing
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