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themrtoad 8/13/2019 4:38am
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If Anstie can't find a decent ride for 2020 that's a testimony of a system that doesn't work. I hope something good comes along.
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thepelican 8/13/2019 5:03am
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No worries mate, I like it a lot myself ;) At the moment I'am not in the position to share info, thats all. But most of...
No worries mate, I like it a lot myself Wink
At the moment I'am not in the position to share info, thats all.

But most of the rumors here I heard also.

Interresting 1 I heard and not seen here, Herlings to Husky and 27 losing his spot there. But just a rumor.
Do you really see RedBull loosing Herlings?
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Bidirella 8/13/2019 12:41pm
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What will happen with Monticelli?
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SidewayzMike 8/13/2019 2:12pm
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Big rumor is that Thomas Covington will be on a 450 Kawi with the help of his dad's employer in the new Jacky Martens MXGP Team...
Big rumor is that Thomas Covington will be on a 450 Kawi with the help of his dad's employer in the new Jacky Martens MXGP Team.

Gebbens will switch from Kawi to Yamaha.
Thought Covington still had another year on his contract. But I’d imagine he’s prolly not looking forward to supercross

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MXMattii 8/13/2019 4:10pm
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Henk_Zanting wrote:
A lot is allready said. Some are true, other not..

Let's wait for MXGP of Imola for some official info.
Yamaha will anounce his new line-up from EMX125 till MXGP at Imola, so I guess this is a little "tongue in the cheek" way of saying us that you guys from Hutten are becoming the new EMX250 team with Thibault Benistant and two others?

About Thomas Covington coming back to Europe. Today I spoke to a well informed insider and he said following thing. Because Covington still got a one year deal with Husqvarna, Mitch Covington has tried to create a "Monster Energy Husqvarna Team" lead by Jacky Martens with riders: Thomas Covington and this is the biggest news Justin Barcia!

Husqvarna wasn't really against this idea, but to get these two riders both Husqvarna and Monster Energy needed to go "All-In" also financially. Something Red Bull has blocked, going politician-modus. Non of the two Austrian brands (KTM & Husqvarna) will (ever) support a Monster Energy sponsored team (financially). Monster Energy is the only brand of energy drink close to Red Bull and Red Bull clearly didn't hesitate to use their power at the KTM Group to prevent a Monster Energy Logo shining on a official supported Husqvarna/KTM bike.

So Husqvarna has told the "Covington clan" that they can't support them in this project and they (talked) or are still talking with almost all brands. But knowing that most teams doesn't have the same financial space as Husqvarna/KTM because they don't sell as much off road bikes, I suspect that they won't be aiming at Justin Barcia anymore. Thomas Covington and Max Anstie on Green,Blue,Yellow,Red,... bikes would look like a solid team but the same can be said about Guillod, Tixier and others like Searle.
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roninho 8/13/2019 11:18pm
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Thanks for the info MXMatti. I get the connection to Martens and really hope he can get a new/own team in 2020.

However wouldnt it be better to look at a team that allready has solid financial backing? If you get Monster and you combine that with what a Gebben, Hutten or Motobluez allready has then what is needed from a factory would be much less then to start from scratch. (not taking into account that those teams probably are allready under contract for 2020 at this point in time)
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Adam89 8/13/2019 11:56pm
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Big rumor is that Thomas Covington will be on a 450 Kawi with the help of his dad's employer in the new Jacky Martens MXGP Team...
Big rumor is that Thomas Covington will be on a 450 Kawi with the help of his dad's employer in the new Jacky Martens MXGP Team.

Gebbens will switch from Kawi to Yamaha.
SidewayzMike wrote:
Thought Covington still had another year on his contract. But I’d imagine he’s prolly not looking forward to supercross
He’ll be in the states for 20 but if that doesn’t go to plan in 21 he’ll be back over the pond with help from his dad and his dads connections running a privateerish type effort
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Cortami79 8/14/2019 12:17am
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Thanks for the info MXMatti. I get the connection to Martens and really hope he can get a new/own team in 2020. However wouldnt it be...
Thanks for the info MXMatti. I get the connection to Martens and really hope he can get a new/own team in 2020.

However wouldnt it be better to look at a team that allready has solid financial backing? If you get Monster and you combine that with what a Gebben, Hutten or Motobluez allready has then what is needed from a factory would be much less then to start from scratch. (not taking into account that those teams probably are allready under contract for 2020 at this point in time)
I get what you're saying. However Martens probably has all the knowledge to set-up a team in no time. Just needs the financial backing and support. But why should Barcia come to Europe? He has a contract with Yamaha for next year right?
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philG 8/14/2019 1:39am
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What will happen with Monticelli?
Monticelli has backers. And he has been good all year too. Motorsport is a business , and those that have backers understand what is needed to get the seats you need. 4 wheel sport has been this way for years.
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roninho 8/14/2019 3:27am
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PhilG what makes Monticelli 'he has been good all year too''?
He has finished outside the top 10 in 67% of the races
He has finished outside the top 7 in 91% of the races
He has just 1 top 5 finish (a 5th place)
He has just 29 points more then Brian Bogers, who nobody considers as good all year.

(i get that he offers value with his Lupino like performances and possibly some upside combined with him bringing sponsorship).
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roninho 8/14/2019 3:31am
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Thanks for the info MXMatti. I get the connection to Martens and really hope he can get a new/own team in 2020. However wouldnt it be...
Thanks for the info MXMatti. I get the connection to Martens and really hope he can get a new/own team in 2020.

However wouldnt it be better to look at a team that allready has solid financial backing? If you get Monster and you combine that with what a Gebben, Hutten or Motobluez allready has then what is needed from a factory would be much less then to start from scratch. (not taking into account that those teams probably are allready under contract for 2020 at this point in time)
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I get what you're saying. However Martens probably has all the knowledge to set-up a team in no time. Just needs the financial backing and support...
I get what you're saying. However Martens probably has all the knowledge to set-up a team in no time. Just needs the financial backing and support. But why should Barcia come to Europe? He has a contract with Yamaha for next year right?
Oh i agree, if i had the money and needed someone to start up and run a team then a guy like Martens will be top of mind. But now that apparently the Monster money by itself is not enough to fund it to me it would have made a lot of sense to team up with an allready funded team like Gebben or Hutten.

If Barcia can get a long term contract for good $ i'm sure he will be interested to talk. Not saying he would come just that with him showing interest in GPs before he seems like a guy that would be interested in talking.
I have no idea if he is under contract though.
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roninho wrote:
Thanks for the info MXMatti. I get the connection to Martens and really hope he can get a new/own team in 2020. However wouldnt it be...
Thanks for the info MXMatti. I get the connection to Martens and really hope he can get a new/own team in 2020.

However wouldnt it be better to look at a team that allready has solid financial backing? If you get Monster and you combine that with what a Gebben, Hutten or Motobluez allready has then what is needed from a factory would be much less then to start from scratch. (not taking into account that those teams probably are allready under contract for 2020 at this point in time)
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I get what you're saying. However Martens probably has all the knowledge to set-up a team in no time. Just needs the financial backing and support...
I get what you're saying. However Martens probably has all the knowledge to set-up a team in no time. Just needs the financial backing and support. But why should Barcia come to Europe? He has a contract with Yamaha for next year right?
His wife from England and new scene of racing with solid support would be good option. Sad we wont see that happen.
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He’ll be in the states for 20 but if that doesn’t go to plan in 21 he’ll be back over the pond with help from his...
He’ll be in the states for 20 but if that doesn’t go to plan in 21 he’ll be back over the pond with help from his dad and his dads connections running a privateerish type effort
He is not for 2020, he is coming back to Europe.
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Anthony Rodriquez rode one race for BOS GP and is now contracted to ride the following three rounds for Hutten Yamaha.
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Anthony Rodriquez rode one race for BOS GP and is now contracted to ride the following three rounds for Hutten Yamaha.
https://mxvice.com/114373/move-anthony-rodriguez

BOS told Rodriquez had back injury and cant race... but seems just fine and will be riding Yamaha.
BOS teams seems.. i dont know even what to say about it after all happened.
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BOS is unfortunately a complete shitshow. I still hope they stay and field riders in 2020.
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DonM 8/15/2019 6:25am
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Henk_Zanting wrote:
A lot is allready said. Some are true, other not..

Let's wait for MXGP of Imola for some official info.
MXMattii wrote:
Yamaha will anounce his new line-up from EMX125 till MXGP at Imola, so I guess this is a little "tongue in the cheek" way of saying...
Yamaha will anounce his new line-up from EMX125 till MXGP at Imola, so I guess this is a little "tongue in the cheek" way of saying us that you guys from Hutten are becoming the new EMX250 team with Thibault Benistant and two others?

About Thomas Covington coming back to Europe. Today I spoke to a well informed insider and he said following thing. Because Covington still got a one year deal with Husqvarna, Mitch Covington has tried to create a "Monster Energy Husqvarna Team" lead by Jacky Martens with riders: Thomas Covington and this is the biggest news Justin Barcia!

Husqvarna wasn't really against this idea, but to get these two riders both Husqvarna and Monster Energy needed to go "All-In" also financially. Something Red Bull has blocked, going politician-modus. Non of the two Austrian brands (KTM & Husqvarna) will (ever) support a Monster Energy sponsored team (financially). Monster Energy is the only brand of energy drink close to Red Bull and Red Bull clearly didn't hesitate to use their power at the KTM Group to prevent a Monster Energy Logo shining on a official supported Husqvarna/KTM bike.

So Husqvarna has told the "Covington clan" that they can't support them in this project and they (talked) or are still talking with almost all brands. But knowing that most teams doesn't have the same financial space as Husqvarna/KTM because they don't sell as much off road bikes, I suspect that they won't be aiming at Justin Barcia anymore. Thomas Covington and Max Anstie on Green,Blue,Yellow,Red,... bikes would look like a solid team but the same can be said about Guillod, Tixier and others like Searle.
Barcia has another year on his contract and so does Covington, but the Covington move could happen....and why would Red Bull block Monster? They certainly didn't with Rockstar...This is very close to how MXDouche lost his credibility when he came on here and said that Barcia was coming to MXGP..that it was a done deal...he got banned and good riddance the guy was and still is an idiot...I really don't get why you Euros are so infatuated with Barcia that every year his name comes up as the next guy from the US to race the GP's
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PhilG what makes Monticelli 'he has been good all year too''? He has finished outside the top 10 in 67% of the races He has finished...
PhilG what makes Monticelli 'he has been good all year too''?
He has finished outside the top 10 in 67% of the races
He has finished outside the top 7 in 91% of the races
He has just 1 top 5 finish (a 5th place)
He has just 29 points more then Brian Bogers, who nobody considers as good all year.

(i get that he offers value with his Lupino like performances and possibly some upside combined with him bringing sponsorship).
He has had some strong races for a guy who the previous year was an 'also ran'. Statistics dont tell the full story. When you look at MX1 , who isnt he beating that he should be... 5th in a moto is a great ride. Still young. Better bet than a lot of guys.
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MXMattii 8/15/2019 9:43am
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Barcia has another year on his contract and so does Covington, but the Covington move could happen....and why would Red Bull block Monster? They certainly didn't...
Barcia has another year on his contract and so does Covington, but the Covington move could happen....and why would Red Bull block Monster? They certainly didn't with Rockstar...This is very close to how MXDouche lost his credibility when he came on here and said that Barcia was coming to MXGP..that it was a done deal...he got banned and good riddance the guy was and still is an idiot...I really don't get why you Euros are so infatuated with Barcia that every year his name comes up as the next guy from the US to race the GP's
I know what I'm saying is the truthful. And this is why Red Bull doesn't care about Rockstar, but fights against Monsters Energy. Both Monster and Red Bull are fighting for the world domination and Rockstar is a very very distant third and harmless.


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MXMattii 8/16/2019 12:13am
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Barcia has another year on his contract and so does Covington, but the Covington move could happen....and why would Red Bull block Monster? They certainly didn't...
Barcia has another year on his contract and so does Covington, but the Covington move could happen....and why would Red Bull block Monster? They certainly didn't with Rockstar...This is very close to how MXDouche lost his credibility when he came on here and said that Barcia was coming to MXGP..that it was a done deal...he got banned and good riddance the guy was and still is an idiot...I really don't get why you Euros are so infatuated with Barcia that every year his name comes up as the next guy from the US to race the GP's
Today Yamaha will announce their 2020 program. Beside all news that is already posted in here I'm expecting Yamaha SM Action announcing the signing of Henry Jacoby.
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Cortami79 8/16/2019 5:11am
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ICEONE just announced that Jasikonis his contract is signed for 2020 Smile

Thats awesome for him!
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DimitrieSep 8/16/2019 5:40am
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ICEONE just announced that Jasikonis his contract is signed for 2020 Smile

Thats awesome for him!
That's great news! Really like him as i am close to 2m myself Tongue puts the stupid JH84 to husky rumour down aswell, this forum fields people with great fantasy
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DeStouwer 8/16/2019 10:04am
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Wilvo Yamaha will become the official factory team with Paulin, Tonus and Seewer as their riders. Rinaldi stays responsible for the technical development.

In MX2, KEMEA Yamaha gets the full factory status. Geerts and Watson stay on board.

Henry Jacobi will move to MXGP, with SM Action-MC Migliori. Maxime Renaux will stay in MX2 and Andrea Adamo in EMX250.

Hutten Metaal becomes the official EMX250 team.
Finnish_Flash_62 8/16/2019 1:31pm
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Wilvo Yamaha will become the official factory team with Paulin, Tonus and Seewer as their riders. Rinaldi stays responsible for the technical development. In MX2, KEMEA...
Wilvo Yamaha will become the official factory team with Paulin, Tonus and Seewer as their riders. Rinaldi stays responsible for the technical development.

In MX2, KEMEA Yamaha gets the full factory status. Geerts and Watson stay on board.

Henry Jacobi will move to MXGP, with SM Action-MC Migliori. Maxime Renaux will stay in MX2 and Andrea Adamo in EMX250.

Hutten Metaal becomes the official EMX250 team.
Good that they field 3 guys. How bout that Honda seat now though that Seewer stays on blue?

IceOne bringing back AJ is a good move imo. He has been better than many expected this year, hopefully he can crank it up a notch for next year. Did Jonass have a contract for next year already with Husky?
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roninho 8/16/2019 1:55pm
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Cant imagine jonass moving up early without a multiyear deal
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MXMattii 8/16/2019 3:37pm
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Finnish_Flash_62 wrote:
Good that they field 3 guys. How bout that Honda seat now though that Seewer stays on blue? IceOne bringing back AJ is a good move...
Good that they field 3 guys. How bout that Honda seat now though that Seewer stays on blue?

IceOne bringing back AJ is a good move imo. He has been better than many expected this year, hopefully he can crank it up a notch for next year. Did Jonass have a contract for next year already with Husky?
Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or to ride at the MXGP class. The MXGP class is the most important class for Honda and having Gajser and Evans who didn't do bad in Australia on the 450, would be solid for the team. But I have a feeling that they are still looking and probably are talking with other guys, so Mitch Evans could stay in MX2 for one more year...

Rumor is also that Livia will be again picking some talent in Australia, any Aussie knowing something about that?!
Richard Tease II 8/16/2019 4:10pm
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Finnish_Flash_62 wrote:
Good that they field 3 guys. How bout that Honda seat now though that Seewer stays on blue? IceOne bringing back AJ is a good move...
Good that they field 3 guys. How bout that Honda seat now though that Seewer stays on blue?

IceOne bringing back AJ is a good move imo. He has been better than many expected this year, hopefully he can crank it up a notch for next year. Did Jonass have a contract for next year already with Husky?
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Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or...
Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or to ride at the MXGP class. The MXGP class is the most important class for Honda and having Gajser and Evans who didn't do bad in Australia on the 450, would be solid for the team. But I have a feeling that they are still looking and probably are talking with other guys, so Mitch Evans could stay in MX2 for one more year...

Rumor is also that Livia will be again picking some talent in Australia, any Aussie knowing something about that?!
A great young junior here is #72 Regan Duffy he’s young he knocked off our top guns on a 450 yet he’s still a under 19 rider. If i was a betting man i’d Say he’s the guy
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Finnish_Flash_62 wrote:
Good that they field 3 guys. How bout that Honda seat now though that Seewer stays on blue? IceOne bringing back AJ is a good move...
Good that they field 3 guys. How bout that Honda seat now though that Seewer stays on blue?

IceOne bringing back AJ is a good move imo. He has been better than many expected this year, hopefully he can crank it up a notch for next year. Did Jonass have a contract for next year already with Husky?
MXMattii wrote:
Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or...
Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or to ride at the MXGP class. The MXGP class is the most important class for Honda and having Gajser and Evans who didn't do bad in Australia on the 450, would be solid for the team. But I have a feeling that they are still looking and probably are talking with other guys, so Mitch Evans could stay in MX2 for one more year...

Rumor is also that Livia will be again picking some talent in Australia, any Aussie knowing something about that?!
Richard Tease II wrote:
A great young junior here is #72 Regan Duffy he’s young he knocked off our top guns on a 450 yet he’s still a under 19...
A great young junior here is #72 Regan Duffy he’s young he knocked off our top guns on a 450 yet he’s still a under 19 rider. If i was a betting man i’d Say he’s the guy
Id say Wilson Todd, Duffy for another year in Aus in mx2. Duffy has a bright future thats for sure!!
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roninho 8/16/2019 11:34pm
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Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or...
Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or to ride at the MXGP class. The MXGP class is the most important class for Honda and having Gajser and Evans who didn't do bad in Australia on the 450, would be solid for the team. But I have a feeling that they are still looking and probably are talking with other guys, so Mitch Evans could stay in MX2 for one more year...

Rumor is also that Livia will be again picking some talent in Australia, any Aussie knowing something about that?!
What do you guys think of Evans to MXGP?

Imo hiring Evans is a good move for HRC if they keep him in MX2. With 1 year extra experience, a factory Honda and Prado out of the class i could see him as a potential championship contender.

But moving up to MXGP now? Seems quite a risk that you end up with a guy outside of top 10 in most races again.
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Motofinne 8/16/2019 11:46pm
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Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or...
Honda HRC has already signed Mitch Evans but if the rumor is true he doesn't know yet if it is to ride the MX2 bike or to ride at the MXGP class. The MXGP class is the most important class for Honda and having Gajser and Evans who didn't do bad in Australia on the 450, would be solid for the team. But I have a feeling that they are still looking and probably are talking with other guys, so Mitch Evans could stay in MX2 for one more year...

Rumor is also that Livia will be again picking some talent in Australia, any Aussie knowing something about that?!
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What do you guys think of Evans to MXGP? Imo hiring Evans is a good move for HRC if they keep him in MX2. With 1...
What do you guys think of Evans to MXGP?

Imo hiring Evans is a good move for HRC if they keep him in MX2. With 1 year extra experience, a factory Honda and Prado out of the class i could see him as a potential championship contender.

But moving up to MXGP now? Seems quite a risk that you end up with a guy outside of top 10 in most races again.
It makes no sense to sign Evans for a 450 ride. I seriously don't understand what HRC are thinking if they do that.

I would sign Vlaanderen for the 450 ride and then put Evans on Vlaanderens HRC 250. Evans + HRC in MX2 could win the title in 2020.
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