Ways to eliminate vicious deflection while riding?

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I have this issue with the bars jerking all over the place when riding slower stuff or even faster trails with roots or objects you have to go over. I rode yesterday at a place that is 85% rocks with sand. There are some spots were you have to slow down a lot and stand up. I notice my bars while standing wanting to jerk out my hand almost making me crash multiple times. Looking into options and wondering which would benefit me more? A steering stabilizer or a complete revalve of my suspension and no stabilizer? Suspension is setup for my weight range and adjusted accordingly.
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Sheriff245 6/27/2019 7:17am
6/27/2019 7:17am
Hâve you tried playing with the clickers? Usually slower speeds would require less compression damping (softer)
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aroark247 6/27/2019 7:51am
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Technique -wise, you could try riding with your core (legs, hips, torso and shoulders) and your arms are merely just an attachment point for your torso to the bars.

If you've been riding light on the pegs and heavy on the front suspension, including the handle bars, I see how they could jerk around. If you're not already, you could try being heavy on the pegs and light on the front.
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FLmxer 6/27/2019 8:08am
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Rebound or compression adjustment. Either soften compression or rebound.
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Jimmy Jingles 6/27/2019 8:33am
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At first I read this title as "Ways to eliminate vicious defecation while riding?" Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Alec138 6/27/2019 8:40am
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Sheriff245 wrote:
Hâve you tried playing with the clickers? Usually slower speeds would require less compression damping (softer)
I played with them some to make them softer.
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GrapeApe 6/27/2019 8:42am
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Jimmy Jingles wrote:
At first I read this title as "Ways to eliminate vicious defecation while riding?" Laughing Laughing Laughing
Hey man, it happens
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Jimmy Jingles wrote:
At first I read this title as "Ways to eliminate vicious defecation while riding?" Laughing Laughing Laughing
Sometimes you only make it back to the truck with one sock.
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kNewc 6/27/2019 9:36am
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How much air pressure is in your tires?
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dadofagun 6/27/2019 9:44am
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aroark247 wrote:
Technique -wise, you could try riding with your core (legs, hips, torso and shoulders) and your arms are merely just an attachment point for your torso...
Technique -wise, you could try riding with your core (legs, hips, torso and shoulders) and your arms are merely just an attachment point for your torso to the bars.

If you've been riding light on the pegs and heavy on the front suspension, including the handle bars, I see how they could jerk around. If you're not already, you could try being heavy on the pegs and light on the front.
This is what I was going to recommend because it has worked for me on trail rides. Heavy pegs made the front end far easier to keep control of. Hope it works for you, be safe.
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AbouttheRide 6/27/2019 9:47am
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Tires, technique, suspension set up all contribute to this issue. A stabilizer is just a band aid in this situation and will just make it worse in the long run in my opinion. What kind of bike are you riding should be the first question?
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MPJC 6/27/2019 9:50am
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Maybe drop the forks a bit in the clamps or increase sag to increase stability? Won't completely address the issue but it could help.
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BobPA 6/27/2019 10:02am
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Tighten your steering bearings...
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WE THINKED OF GETTING SUSZUKI RM125 FOR MY NEXT BIKE BUT MY DAD GET SCARED WE HAVE TO MOVE THE FORKS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BARS SO I CAN TUCH THE GROUND AND WE THINK IT GIVES IT HEAD SHAKE ON THE LONG STRAITS SO IF YOU MOVE THEM DOWN IT MAKE IT STABELER BUT HARDER TO TUCH THE GROUND
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CarlinoJoeVideo 6/27/2019 10:09am
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Sheriff245 wrote:
Hâve you tried playing with the clickers? Usually slower speeds would require less compression damping (softer)
Alec138 wrote:
I played with them some to make them softer.
Did that help?

What bike?

Sag set correct?

Sounds more like a suspension setting, but stabilizer do help, but a band aid fix.
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JM485 6/27/2019 4:09pm
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This is going to be a technique thing 100%. Suspension settings may help, but if the bars are almost being ripped out of your hands then there’s more going on here. You really need to use your throttle to help stabilize the bike out, I see people all the time slowing down and chopping the throttle as they approach an obstacle, and in doing so placing more weight than normal on the front of the bike.

Think of the bike like a teeter totter, when you chop the throttle the front end is going to dive and place weight on the front wheel. This is a good thing for corner entry and helping the front end hook up, but when you’re trying to float over obstacles this is exactly the opposite of what you want. Do all of your braking before you get to the obstacle, and once there maintain at least a little bit of throttle input to ensure the weight bias of the bike stay toward the rear. Watch some videos of the endurocross guys and how they tackle rock or firewood sections, you’ll see they do all of their braking before the section, and once they’re navigating the obstacles they try to maintain a steady throttle input to keep the bike balanced and light.

Just something to try. It’s going to seem weird at first and sometimes it can be tough to keep the bike from getting away from you, but the results should be immediately apparent.
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Ingjr1 6/27/2019 6:22pm
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Perhaps a steering damper if it's really giving you fits. Tyler was surprising correct also.
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resetjet 6/28/2019 5:40am
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JM485 wrote:
This is going to be a technique thing 100%. Suspension settings may help, but if the bars are almost being ripped out of your hands then...
This is going to be a technique thing 100%. Suspension settings may help, but if the bars are almost being ripped out of your hands then there’s more going on here. You really need to use your throttle to help stabilize the bike out, I see people all the time slowing down and chopping the throttle as they approach an obstacle, and in doing so placing more weight than normal on the front of the bike.

Think of the bike like a teeter totter, when you chop the throttle the front end is going to dive and place weight on the front wheel. This is a good thing for corner entry and helping the front end hook up, but when you’re trying to float over obstacles this is exactly the opposite of what you want. Do all of your braking before you get to the obstacle, and once there maintain at least a little bit of throttle input to ensure the weight bias of the bike stay toward the rear. Watch some videos of the endurocross guys and how they tackle rock or firewood sections, you’ll see they do all of their braking before the section, and once they’re navigating the obstacles they try to maintain a steady throttle input to keep the bike balanced and light.

Just something to try. It’s going to seem weird at first and sometimes it can be tough to keep the bike from getting away from you, but the results should be immediately apparent.
^^^this. Plus go faster you wont deflect as easy and skip over more stuff. You have to commit to a section.
temporarily_locked 6/28/2019 10:04am
6/28/2019 10:04am
If you have your suspension valved for Mx then you may want to get it revalved for off-road. I know riding rocks on my Mx bike sucks compared to riding rock on a bike set up for off-road, but it’s never so bad that it rips the bars out of my hands. It does deflect a lot, is very tiring and hurts my already bad wrists.

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kb228 6/28/2019 10:06am
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You need to add free stickers evenly on both sides of the front fender
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fourfourone 6/28/2019 11:09am
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kb228 wrote:
You need to add free stickers evenly on both sides of the front fender
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