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I loved the looks of the new 2019 Chevy Silverado 1500 and took one for a test drive. The interior is way outdated and cheap/basic as fuck. The ride was decent and the engine was typical Chevy- lethargic. Bottom line- your not getting much value for the price.
The salesman convinced me to drive the new 2019 Ram. Knowing Dodge's quality is terrible and their reliability is horrible I was very hesitant to even drive one. Took one for a test ride and loved the truck. The interior is very modern and has lots of options. The ride quality was great and the power was on par with my Tundra.
So anyways..my friend/neighbor owns the Dodge dealer and got me a great price on a new Ram (~$14,000 off MSRP).
The GM trucks interior (and exterior) really turned me off. As mentioned, the gm motors are sure as hell easiest/cheapest to modify/tinker with.
ps- This is my 3rd Ram and I haven't had any major quality issues
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This should steer you absolutely clear from a 1/2 ton diesel pick up truck. There are pointless. You get a lower payload typically, lower tow rating, have to deal with emissions systems that are still relatively in their infancy which often lead to costly repairs.
On a serious note, go look at new trucks. I think you will be shocked that a "New" truck with all the available incentives will probably only be 5000$ more in the end than the 3 year old truck with 40,000 miles on it.
I've moved on to the 3/4 ton diesel trucks due to hauling a toy hauler to the track, but prior had a 13 1500 LT crew cab with leather and bucket seats. 14k off sticker when purchased new, traded in for like 8k less than original purchase price when it was 4 years old with almost 70k on it. Never skipped a beat.
An equivalent optioned ford is 5-8k more than a Chevy, and even more than that to the Ram it seems. Not sure why the Rams are so cheap.
Call me an idiot, but I was only shopping Ford and Toyota because of all the bailout bullshit with GM and Chrysler. On top of that, I live in the North, so GM and Chrysler products are going to rust prematurely because they use really thin substandard metal. My dad is also a courtesy driver for a GM and Chrysler dealer. He said the GM trucks are like a revolving door going through the shop with constant problems.
After driving the two, I ended up going with the Ford with the 5.0. I just didn't trust the ecoboost for long term reliability.....yet. I have a friend that works for Ford and leases every two years. He's had both ecoboosts and the 5.0. He said that the ecoboosts will outperform the 5.0 for MPG and quickness when empty. When towing, they get real hungry and the MPG will drop below the 5.0. BTW - not one problem with the F-150. I think 3 or 4 small recalls for dumb stuff, that I actually haven't had done yet.
The reason I didn't go with the Tundra was the same as someone else mentioned, they gulp the fuel and the motor is largely unchanged since 2007. I like the styling, but not that much.
One downfall of the Ford, any motor, your insurance will be the highest of any of the trucks. When Ford went aluminum, it was the first truck to ever cost more to insure than the Tundra.
The engines are dogs compared to newer stuff tho. But there are used crew cab 4x4 ones with 15k miles for like $18k. Thats a good amount of truck for under 20k. If the ridgelines were a little cheaper id prefer a ridgeline if im honest. But there almost 10k more for a similiar mileage truck.
You say the tacos were too small but have you test drove a colorado or ranger? Leave the tacos for the short guys. My colorado averages 26-28mpg a tank and rides like a car but I find it plenty big. At least until I way overload its towing/payload and then a full size sounds good lol
They weren't pompous enough to just think they could fake their way through the tough times with low quality products.
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Pulling our boat 200 miles north this afternoon so I’ll be putting it to the test right away.
Ram did get caught up in the emissions stuff because it’s a vw motor there for all new owners get a 2600 dollar check and a 2 year 50,000 extension on their warranty
Ram also didn’t put a Cummins in for the reason that Cummins did not have the proper motor available and didn’t want to have to design a new one, the titan XD Cummins would not fit in the ram the titan has a larger frame but less towing. ( I’m kinda confused about this)
Really the eco is good for long commute and towing every day
my 2500 has the 12" screen, thing is fuckin' sweet
the '19 RAMs are legit
Sorry typo Vm not vw
While not yet officially EPA rated, Head of engineering at Ram Trucks, Mike Cairns, says he expects the Ram EcoDiesel to reach at least 26 mpg highway. “Our simulations were showing 23 to 24 mpg for [the 5.0-liter engine],” Cairns told us last week at the 2014 Ram Trucks press introduction in Westlake Village, California. “We love Cummins,” he continued.”The 6.7-liter is by far the best in its class. But the 5.0 is not optimized well for fuel economy.”
Nissan saw the bigger engine was still in development to be used in light and medium-duty commercial vehicles. “We were going to put it into something, and Nissan stepped up,” says a Cummins representative of the new 5.0-liter engine. We asked Nissan’s Vice President of Commercial Vehicles Joe Castelli if the engine would just serve duty in the 2015 Titan or whether Nissan might put it in any other vehicles. “It’ll fit in the NV,” he said. “But we’re not going to do it if all we’re going to see is a one or two mpg advantage (over the gas engines).” Nissan has also said that in surveys, it has found that 17 percent of pickup truck owners would consider switching loyalties if a light-duty truck were available with a V-8 diesel. The company figures that’s approximately 300,000 customers per year.
Here’s another story from autoblog.com.
I also have herd the the mds is bad
I don’t know but those 19 are sick and so are the 14+
It comes down to what you want though
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