Let's see/review those 2019 kx450s

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OLDMOTO 6/19/2019 11:19am
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Garrett314 wrote:
Just bought a pair of XTRIG rocs pro clamps. Anyone have this set? Has you tried the 21 offset and what did you think?
DB97 wrote:
I have them but I used 23 it turns really good didn't want to lose stability for mx.
What difference did you notice from the stock clamps? Was it worth $800.00?
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OLDMOTO 6/19/2019 11:20am
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Garrett314 wrote:
Just bought a pair of XTRIG rocs pro clamps. Anyone have this set? Has you tried the 21 offset and what did you think?
the kid 857 wrote:
I have them, I tried 21 but was too twitchy at higher speeds for me. and not being able to tighten the stem down as tight...
I have them, I tried 21 but was too twitchy at higher speeds for me. and not being able to tighten the stem down as tight (to stiffen up steering) as the found on the stock stuff. I went back to 23 and was much better. I could see the 21 being great in suppercross.
What difference did you notice from the stock clamps? Wad it wort $800.00?
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DB97 6/19/2019 12:21pm
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OLDMOTO wrote:
What difference did you notice from the stock clamps? Was it worth $800.00?
I added the engine mounts at the same time so it's hard to pinpoint what did what. Billet usually adds more feedback which I like. The clamps supposedly let the forks work smoother since they are opposing. It seemed to let the bars turn slightly farther because it made my forks hit my engine hour meter that was on the side of the frame when the stock didn't. I also like the PHDS bar mounts it adds comfort. Worth $900 idk haha. There was a like new set for 650 on the bazaar.
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Garrett314 6/19/2019 12:25pm
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OLDMOTO wrote:
What difference did you notice from the stock clamps? Was it worth $800.00?
DB97 wrote:
I added the engine mounts at the same time so it's hard to pinpoint what did what. Billet usually adds more feedback which I like. The...
I added the engine mounts at the same time so it's hard to pinpoint what did what. Billet usually adds more feedback which I like. The clamps supposedly let the forks work smoother since they are opposing. It seemed to let the bars turn slightly farther because it made my forks hit my engine hour meter that was on the side of the frame when the stock didn't. I also like the PHDS bar mounts it adds comfort. Worth $900 idk haha. There was a like new set for 650 on the bazaar.
I bought the like new ones from the bazaar, they arrive Friday
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Garrett314 wrote:
I bought the like new ones from the bazaar, they arrive Friday
Sweet I already had mine it was a good deal.
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54 hours on mine, no problems so far except the stock fork oil level and stock chain roller. I am so happy with the bike now...
54 hours on mine, no problems so far except the stock fork oil level and stock chain roller.
I am so happy with the bike now that the forks are dialed in (52nm springs, 390ml oil, comp. +2, i weigh around 165 pounds).

Also since the 2020 did not get any important updates the 19's should hold good value.

Markopolo400 wrote:
Are you pro? That seems like a really stiff front end for 165LB.
165 without gear.
Definitely no pro but had some bottoming problems before, fork is still relatively plush in the upper part of the stroke and soaks up braking bumps very well but stiffness ramps up very quick in the last third.

Just wanted to throw out my setup, it might be helpful for some. Definitely does not work for everyone, i am happy with it.
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Anyone changed to a 51t rear sprocket? How does it work on faster tracks?
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OLDMOTO wrote:
Anyone changed to a 51t rear sprocket? How does it work on faster tracks?
I did. I liked the 51 tooth sprocket a lot.
I never had an issue with the 50t rear before but after I put the 51t on, I noticed it was snappier down low. I liked this for cornering a lot better.
Also it allowed me to run 3rd more in corners and click 4th on faster sections.
With stock gearing I felt like I would run 2nd and 3rd and then I’d be needing to click 4th right before a corner. South florida sand tracks, definitely prefer the 51 over the 50.
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navalseabee 6/20/2019 2:15pm
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OLDMOTO wrote:
Anyone changed to a 51t rear sprocket? How does it work on faster tracks?
I was actually thinking about dropping to a 49 to help maybe numb out 3rd gear roll onnin corners.
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OLDMOTO wrote:
Anyone changed to a 51t rear sprocket? How does it work on faster tracks?
navalseabee wrote:
I was actually thinking about dropping to a 49 to help maybe numb out 3rd gear roll onnin corners.
I swap between 49, 50, and 51 depending on the track. 50 is my go-to though. I've used the 51 at tight stuff, like arenacross, but it makes for too much shifting in my opinion at other tracks. The 49 loses a lot in tight corners, but can be nice if you don't want to grab another gear before a jump or find yourself wringing out at the end of the straight.
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WW444 6/20/2019 4:18pm
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Got a package from Pro Circuit today. It definitely opens it up more and sounds awesome! Now it really matches my 250!

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Markopolo400 6/21/2019 8:34am
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Did the PC come rubber mounted?
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OLDMOTO wrote:
Anyone changed to a 51t rear sprocket? How does it work on faster tracks?
I did. It makes it slightly easier to stay in third gear in the tighter turns. That's why i changed mine.
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Markopolo400 wrote:
Did the PC come rubber mounted?
Yes
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Markopolo400 wrote:
Did the PC come rubber mounted?
WW444 wrote:
Yes
Did u notice a loss in low end powa?
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Markopolo400 wrote:
Did the PC come rubber mounted?
WW444 wrote:
Yes
datkin128 wrote:
Did u notice a loss in low end powa?
Of course he won’t, he’s got 1,000 reasons to convince himself it’s better all around, assuming it’s Ti.
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WW444 wrote:
Yes
datkin128 wrote:
Did u notice a loss in low end powa?
dmm698 wrote:
Of course he won’t, he’s got 1,000 reasons to convince himself it’s better all around, assuming it’s Ti.
I installed the PC stainless system and had Tokyo Mods re-map the computer. It picked up a large amount of low end power that comes on at a lower rpm, more mid range, more top end and over rev. Huge improvement on an already good engine.
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Moto520 6/21/2019 11:48am
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i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust system on these things doesn't do much at all and is a total waste of money. We all know this but WE DO IT ANYWAYS. Lighter? Yes but who really notices this?

i think it's kind of funny that we think we can feel the change in different engine hangers. Come on guys. Most of us can't re-create the same turn/ jump/ braking situation consistently enough to see a difference.

Sorry about all that ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I buy useless stuff all the time for my bike.
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Moto520 wrote:
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust...
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust system on these things doesn't do much at all and is a total waste of money. We all know this but WE DO IT ANYWAYS. Lighter? Yes but who really notices this?

i think it's kind of funny that we think we can feel the change in different engine hangers. Come on guys. Most of us can't re-create the same turn/ jump/ braking situation consistently enough to see a difference.

Sorry about all that ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I buy useless stuff all the time for my bike.
i didn't need a new FMF pipe, but it looks dope Laughing

sounds sweet too
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I've said it elsewhere in this thread, but I definitely noticed a difference with my first full FMF system (regular megabomb), and not for the better. I'd find it surprising if anyone couldn't tell a difference immediately from stock, unless they really hadn't ridden it much beforehand.
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Moto520 wrote:
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust...
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust system on these things doesn't do much at all and is a total waste of money. We all know this but WE DO IT ANYWAYS. Lighter? Yes but who really notices this?

i think it's kind of funny that we think we can feel the change in different engine hangers. Come on guys. Most of us can't re-create the same turn/ jump/ braking situation consistently enough to see a difference.

Sorry about all that ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I buy useless stuff all the time for my bike.
Exactly. Did I need this full TI system? No lol but I work for my money and I wanted it so I got it. Thats what it is all about. Having fun on our dirtbikes and looking cool while doing it. I particularly like adding exhaust for sound (and to get rid of that ugly huge can) There is no denying that my pc system sounds a hell of a lot better than the stock system.
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OLDMOTO 6/21/2019 12:35pm
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Moto520 wrote:
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust...
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust system on these things doesn't do much at all and is a total waste of money. We all know this but WE DO IT ANYWAYS. Lighter? Yes but who really notices this?

i think it's kind of funny that we think we can feel the change in different engine hangers. Come on guys. Most of us can't re-create the same turn/ jump/ braking situation consistently enough to see a difference.

Sorry about all that ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I buy useless stuff all the time for my bike.
Re-mapping the ECU for the exhaust would yield different results. My bike didn't need any more power. It changed the power delivery substantially for the better.

I have a similar opinion of a lot of the parts people change on these bikes like XTRIG Triple clamps, Ride Engineering triple clamps and rear linkage and FCP engine mounts.

Pro Circuit and Factory Connection do not change the triple clamp offset or linkages on the 2019.

Ride Engineering does, but they only make triple clamps and linkages to sell, they are not suspension experts.

On my 2016 KX450F the Pro Circuit linkage made a significant improvement in the comfort, tracking and steering. On my 2006 through 2012 RMZ450s the RG3 20mm offset triple clamps and rear linkage assembly made a huge difference.

I have to really wonder if people are putting parts on their bikes because the parts are anodized bright colors or because ET3 has red triple clamps on his bike.

Other than one person, I haven't been able to get an answer as to specifically what improvements the triple clamps, linkages and mounts have provided.
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Moto520 6/21/2019 1:26pm
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It's also funny that we regurgitate the same words that the professional testers use. There's been some new catch phrases used by professional testers that have worked their way to the old guys (myself included). i'm of the opinion that we really don't know what the hell we are talking about in regards to many items that we purchase. Then, after the purchase, we try to justify the purchase by saying that it has improved overall feel on the bike or some shit like that.

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Moto520 wrote:
It's also funny that we regurgitate the same words that the professional testers use. There's been some new catch phrases used by professional testers that have...
It's also funny that we regurgitate the same words that the professional testers use. There's been some new catch phrases used by professional testers that have worked their way to the old guys (myself included). i'm of the opinion that we really don't know what the hell we are talking about in regards to many items that we purchase. Then, after the purchase, we try to justify the purchase by saying that it has improved overall feel on the bike or some shit like that.

It may also depend on the bike and part. On my 2016 kx 450 I know for sure the full system exhaust made the power better. I wanted more low end grunt and more snap and got it. But on other years maybe not so much? From what I’m hearing on the 2019 sounds like in some cases it makes it worse! But I also think the 2019 power and delivery is very good stock for most riders.
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One thing that I've been guilty of with past bikes is putting too many things on at the same time and not doing a good before/after comparison, even for my own peace of mind. Sorta like adjusting compression and rebound at the same time.

I've purposely not done that with this KX450, and with my schedule being what it's been lately (have only been able to race and almost no practice days at all in the last 3 months), I have parts sitting on my bench to install and try out one at a time. And another one just showed up today, the WCL engine hanger/bracket set.

I have avoided throwing stuff on and going racing because I know damn well I'm not going to pay any attention to how the bike has changed when it's a race weekend. Only going to be focused on the track during practice sessions, and of course during a motos it's just a blur.
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Moto520 wrote:
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust...
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust system on these things doesn't do much at all and is a total waste of money. We all know this but WE DO IT ANYWAYS. Lighter? Yes but who really notices this?

i think it's kind of funny that we think we can feel the change in different engine hangers. Come on guys. Most of us can't re-create the same turn/ jump/ braking situation consistently enough to see a difference.

Sorry about all that ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I buy useless stuff all the time for my bike.
OLDMOTO wrote:
Re-mapping the ECU for the exhaust would yield different results. My bike didn't need any more power. It changed the power delivery substantially for the better...
Re-mapping the ECU for the exhaust would yield different results. My bike didn't need any more power. It changed the power delivery substantially for the better.

I have a similar opinion of a lot of the parts people change on these bikes like XTRIG Triple clamps, Ride Engineering triple clamps and rear linkage and FCP engine mounts.

Pro Circuit and Factory Connection do not change the triple clamp offset or linkages on the 2019.

Ride Engineering does, but they only make triple clamps and linkages to sell, they are not suspension experts.

On my 2016 KX450F the Pro Circuit linkage made a significant improvement in the comfort, tracking and steering. On my 2006 through 2012 RMZ450s the RG3 20mm offset triple clamps and rear linkage assembly made a huge difference.

I have to really wonder if people are putting parts on their bikes because the parts are anodized bright colors or because ET3 has red triple clamps on his bike.

Other than one person, I haven't been able to get an answer as to specifically what improvements the triple clamps, linkages and mounts have provided.
Tomac uses x trig rocs pro. Only color is deep bronze and they are badazz.
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OLDMOTO 6/21/2019 4:12pm
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Moto520 wrote:
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust...
i installed my full FMF system and it made such a marginal difference that i doubt anyone would benefit from the change. Come on guys.....an exhaust system on these things doesn't do much at all and is a total waste of money. We all know this but WE DO IT ANYWAYS. Lighter? Yes but who really notices this?

i think it's kind of funny that we think we can feel the change in different engine hangers. Come on guys. Most of us can't re-create the same turn/ jump/ braking situation consistently enough to see a difference.

Sorry about all that ^^^^^^^^^^^^

I buy useless stuff all the time for my bike.
OLDMOTO wrote:
Re-mapping the ECU for the exhaust would yield different results. My bike didn't need any more power. It changed the power delivery substantially for the better...
Re-mapping the ECU for the exhaust would yield different results. My bike didn't need any more power. It changed the power delivery substantially for the better.

I have a similar opinion of a lot of the parts people change on these bikes like XTRIG Triple clamps, Ride Engineering triple clamps and rear linkage and FCP engine mounts.

Pro Circuit and Factory Connection do not change the triple clamp offset or linkages on the 2019.

Ride Engineering does, but they only make triple clamps and linkages to sell, they are not suspension experts.

On my 2016 KX450F the Pro Circuit linkage made a significant improvement in the comfort, tracking and steering. On my 2006 through 2012 RMZ450s the RG3 20mm offset triple clamps and rear linkage assembly made a huge difference.

I have to really wonder if people are putting parts on their bikes because the parts are anodized bright colors or because ET3 has red triple clamps on his bike.

Other than one person, I haven't been able to get an answer as to specifically what improvements the triple clamps, linkages and mounts have provided.
mxb2 wrote:
Tomac uses x trig rocs pro. Only color is deep bronze and they are badazz.
Why are they bad ass? What offset is he running?What would be improved on my bike if I spent $1000.00 and bolted XTRIG triple clamps on it? Would it just look cooler? Would the bike handle better. How would the handling be improved? No one has been able to answer that.
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OLDMOTO wrote:
Why are they bad ass? What offset is he running?What would be improved on my bike if I spent $1000.00 and bolted XTRIG triple clamps on...
Why are they bad ass? What offset is he running?What would be improved on my bike if I spent $1000.00 and bolted XTRIG triple clamps on it? Would it just look cooler? Would the bike handle better. How would the handling be improved? No one has been able to answer that.
I told you my opinion on them.
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OLDMOTO wrote:
Re-mapping the ECU for the exhaust would yield different results. My bike didn't need any more power. It changed the power delivery substantially for the better...
Re-mapping the ECU for the exhaust would yield different results. My bike didn't need any more power. It changed the power delivery substantially for the better.

I have a similar opinion of a lot of the parts people change on these bikes like XTRIG Triple clamps, Ride Engineering triple clamps and rear linkage and FCP engine mounts.

Pro Circuit and Factory Connection do not change the triple clamp offset or linkages on the 2019.

Ride Engineering does, but they only make triple clamps and linkages to sell, they are not suspension experts.

On my 2016 KX450F the Pro Circuit linkage made a significant improvement in the comfort, tracking and steering. On my 2006 through 2012 RMZ450s the RG3 20mm offset triple clamps and rear linkage assembly made a huge difference.

I have to really wonder if people are putting parts on their bikes because the parts are anodized bright colors or because ET3 has red triple clamps on his bike.

Other than one person, I haven't been able to get an answer as to specifically what improvements the triple clamps, linkages and mounts have provided.
mxb2 wrote:
Tomac uses x trig rocs pro. Only color is deep bronze and they are badazz.
OLDMOTO wrote:
Why are they bad ass? What offset is he running?What would be improved on my bike if I spent $1000.00 and bolted XTRIG triple clamps on...
Why are they bad ass? What offset is he running?What would be improved on my bike if I spent $1000.00 and bolted XTRIG triple clamps on it? Would it just look cooler? Would the bike handle better. How would the handling be improved? No one has been able to answer that.
Maybe because people like to build bikes and have cool.parts. And putting $$ back into the industry. X trig website has all the info on their site . Clamp specs
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mxb2 wrote:
Tomac uses x trig rocs pro. Only color is deep bronze and they are badazz.
OLDMOTO wrote:
Why are they bad ass? What offset is he running?What would be improved on my bike if I spent $1000.00 and bolted XTRIG triple clamps on...
Why are they bad ass? What offset is he running?What would be improved on my bike if I spent $1000.00 and bolted XTRIG triple clamps on it? Would it just look cooler? Would the bike handle better. How would the handling be improved? No one has been able to answer that.
mxb2 wrote:
Maybe because people like to build bikes and have cool.parts. And putting $$ back into the industry. X trig website has all the info on their...
Maybe because people like to build bikes and have cool.parts. And putting $$ back into the industry. X trig website has all the info on their site . Clamp specs
I like cool parts as well. I have titanium foot pegs, because they are bigger and gripper than stock. Some guys would buy them because of the color. I understand the customization of a bike or a car. I spent money on graphics and a seat cover that serve no purpose other than looks. But before I spend $400.00 for some engine mounts I would like to hear some average guys opinions of how they improved the handling and if its worth the money. Some pro telling me that they're great for me isn't enough. The same with other components. If someone enjoys building a bike and sitting in the garage looking at it that's great as well. The guys on here that restore the old bikes are great. I look at every one of them.
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