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mxb2 wrote:

Good post, but if i had a guy to. Bet on, it would be. Rc. And rv is a bad mofo. 2nd to rc. And the...

Good post, but if i had a guy to. Bet on, it would be. Rc. And rv is a bad mofo. 2nd to rc. And the current group. Tomac and herlings. Top 2.

Ranman68 wrote:

I agree that Tomac and Herlings are the current two best riders, that RC is the GOAT, that RV among the greatest of all time, etc...

I agree that Tomac and Herlings are the current two best riders, that RC is the GOAT, that RV among the greatest of all time, etc but one important name I think should be in there is Antonio Cairoli. RC is the GOAT due to the number of races/titles he won indoors and out over a period of years. I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors. RC just had SX skills and titles in addition to crazy outdoor skills. RC and RV both could have easily won another outdoor or indoor ama title or two if they had chosen to. They both retired retired young.
No matter how many titles Everts had, I just don't believe he was on par with any of the names mentioned. I think Cairoli would walk all over Everts if they were in their prime, and Everts had a mouth he couldn't always back up. Cairoli didn't act like that and did his talking on the track. I know some are gonna disagree on that, but that's just my opinion.

NateDawg wrote:

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race...

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race Supercross during the winter and spring.

RC retired from full time racing at 27 with 10 out of 10 outdoor championships. AC is 33 and still only has 9 titles out of 15. Also, RC has 2 perfect seasons and one of those was against a prime Chad Reed and Kevin Windham. RC is better and it's not even close.

Antskan_Toss wrote:

Okay guys, I am an euro, working in a team as a mechanic. For now on I have been in every GP this year that has...

Okay guys, I am an euro, working in a team as a mechanic. For now on I have been in every GP this year that has been held in Europe and saw the great battles of TC & TG. Shit, one good thing is the battles from those two guys, but the races itself, have been awesome to watch as all those guys scoring points are literally 2sec apart in laptimes. So you are 2 sec slower in Timed Practice and pow 17th place. I saw the ADAC race also today, and will come back to it later. First there are some America alike questions to get the interesting hell going on here.

1.st America is not the greatest military power in the world. They try to claim that NATO is the greatest with their Alliance but I am more sure that The Alliance Between Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Syria, Brazil, South Africa, Iran propably would and some time in the near future will send this glorious jew operated debt organization called USA back to their Jewish Jerusalem, for having a 17+ trillion dollar debt. And still pounding the fist against your heart with those stars and stripes and made in china flags.

But back to mx

I have bern a fan of this great sport at the early 90s

Bailey, Emig, Windham, Pastrana, Ricky, Villo, who ever you put on the list, none of them could go to Lommel and say, fuck seems like a good day to go faster than Bullet. Nope guys, don't even fucking dream. You watch the races in tv, it is 100% different from real life. It is tell-a-lie-vision.

Rockzen came and dominated, now he is coming back from injury, but could never dominate the Gp's anymore.

So is with marvin.
Southwick for euros is a watered down hardpack
So anyone who thinks that someone could be close to Jeffrey in Assen. Well I could bet my liver on that

Today, Seewer got the holeshot, made 3 quick laps, crashed, and Jeffrey caught him but was having a huge arm pump problem. At first i taught he is pulling a tear off, but it was arm pump, so couldn't match the pace of Seewer, inthe last 3-4 laps, Leok was catching him, tried to pass him outside, but Jeffrey had it in control mode and didn't lose the position. On for the second race, most of the technical parts of the track were flattened, so that the local German, Austrian local heroes wouldn't look too bad and Jeffrey took the holeshot and ran away with Seewer, they gapped the third guy about 40sec, Guillod on that given moment, and 4 laps before the end, Jeffrey got past by Seewer and i guess he wasn't ready yet. Didn't look like bullet, yet. But he is getting stronger. Leok was third again. Expressed the field from a last 4 lap freight train. Coming from 6th to 4th.

Yeah i can remember, ricky smoking everyone in the states but i guess everts still went with him and everts might have beaten him, but i won't bet on that.
Villopoto was also amultitalent champion of the great AMA series and then somehow embarrassed himself in the euro series, cause he couldn't literally keep the pace.

So Americas fast mx times ended with Ricky, now the euros have caught THE US & A and give them a run for the money. So don't be disappointed, itisjust the way it has turned out right now.

And don't please start with the sx shit, wehave f1 here, and our formula is turning to the right also from time to time. You guys keep up the making a left turn indy-nascar shit.

Enabler wrote:

Hmmm, hate America and Jewish people much?

Ranman68 wrote:

I agree that Tomac and Herlings are the current two best riders, that RC is the GOAT, that RV among the greatest of all time, etc...

I agree that Tomac and Herlings are the current two best riders, that RC is the GOAT, that RV among the greatest of all time, etc but one important name I think should be in there is Antonio Cairoli. RC is the GOAT due to the number of races/titles he won indoors and out over a period of years. I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors. RC just had SX skills and titles in addition to crazy outdoor skills. RC and RV both could have easily won another outdoor or indoor ama title or two if they had chosen to. They both retired retired young.
No matter how many titles Everts had, I just don't believe he was on par with any of the names mentioned. I think Cairoli would walk all over Everts if they were in their prime, and Everts had a mouth he couldn't always back up. Cairoli didn't act like that and did his talking on the track. I know some are gonna disagree on that, but that's just my opinion.

NateDawg wrote:

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race...

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race Supercross during the winter and spring.

RC retired from full time racing at 27 with 10 out of 10 outdoor championships. AC is 33 and still only has 9 titles out of 15. Also, RC has 2 perfect seasons and one of those was against a prime Chad Reed and Kevin Windham. RC is better and it's not even close.

Ranman68 wrote:

It was simply about total number of outdoor titles Cairoli has, and I did include that RC had supercross titles in addition to all the outdoor...

It was simply about total number of outdoor titles Cairoli has, and I did include that RC had supercross titles in addition to all the outdoor titles. I included that RC retired young and could've won more titles most likely. Try to keep what I said in it's context and not argue by stating things that I stated myself. If you disagree and want to tell me why, then cool. I'm not "crazy" though.

NateDawg wrote:

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race...

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race Supercross during the winter and spring.

RC retired from full time racing at 27 with 10 out of 10 outdoor championships. AC is 33 and still only has 9 titles out of 15. Also, RC has 2 perfect seasons and one of those was against a prime Chad Reed and Kevin Windham. RC is better and it's not even close.

Nuffsaid wrote:

This is a Herlings thread not a pissing contest on ghosts who get faster with every season. They are long gone irrelevant icons and American hope...

This is a Herlings thread not a pissing contest on ghosts who get faster with every season. They are long gone irrelevant icons and American hope to ease the denial of faded glory and future disappointment. Move on out of the past, it serves no purpose.

NateDawg wrote:

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race...

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race Supercross during the winter and spring.

RC retired from full time racing at 27 with 10 out of 10 outdoor championships. AC is 33 and still only has 9 titles out of 15. Also, RC has 2 perfect seasons and one of those was against a prime Chad Reed and Kevin Windham. RC is better and it's not even close.

jemcee wrote:

I honestly can't believe I'm contributing to this buuut Playing devil's advocate here on one thing you said though, 'And that's while having to race supercross...

I honestly can't believe I'm contributing to this buuut

Playing devil's advocate here on one thing you said though, 'And that's while having to race supercross during the winter and spring' Yes that's true but so did the people he was racing, so I doesn't make it more impressive to me that he had to.

To me it's silly to compare two different careers from two different championships and even sillier to have such a strong assured opinion that one was way better haha

Finnish_Flash_62 wrote:

So a thread about Herlings being back racing today took 3 posts to turn in to a GP vs AMA thread. That must be somekind of...

So a thread about Herlings being back racing today took 3 posts to turn in to a GP vs AMA thread. That must be somekind of a record even on Vital.

Herlings seemed pretty quick in time practice as Kaidoddragon posted. Excited to see how he does in the races.

Antskan_Toss wrote:

Okay guys, I am an euro, working in a team as a mechanic. For now on I have been in every GP this year that has...

Okay guys, I am an euro, working in a team as a mechanic. For now on I have been in every GP this year that has been held in Europe and saw the great battles of TC & TG. Shit, one good thing is the battles from those two guys, but the races itself, have been awesome to watch as all those guys scoring points are literally 2sec apart in laptimes. So you are 2 sec slower in Timed Practice and pow 17th place. I saw the ADAC race also today, and will come back to it later. First there are some America alike questions to get the interesting hell going on here.

1.st America is not the greatest military power in the world. They try to claim that NATO is the greatest with their Alliance but I am more sure that The Alliance Between Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Syria, Brazil, South Africa, Iran propably would and some time in the near future will send this glorious jew operated debt organization called USA back to their Jewish Jerusalem, for having a 17+ trillion dollar debt. And still pounding the fist against your heart with those stars and stripes and made in china flags.

But back to mx

I have bern a fan of this great sport at the early 90s

Bailey, Emig, Windham, Pastrana, Ricky, Villo, who ever you put on the list, none of them could go to Lommel and say, fuck seems like a good day to go faster than Bullet. Nope guys, don't even fucking dream. You watch the races in tv, it is 100% different from real life. It is tell-a-lie-vision.

Rockzen came and dominated, now he is coming back from injury, but could never dominate the Gp's anymore.

So is with marvin.
Southwick for euros is a watered down hardpack
So anyone who thinks that someone could be close to Jeffrey in Assen. Well I could bet my liver on that

Today, Seewer got the holeshot, made 3 quick laps, crashed, and Jeffrey caught him but was having a huge arm pump problem. At first i taught he is pulling a tear off, but it was arm pump, so couldn't match the pace of Seewer, inthe last 3-4 laps, Leok was catching him, tried to pass him outside, but Jeffrey had it in control mode and didn't lose the position. On for the second race, most of the technical parts of the track were flattened, so that the local German, Austrian local heroes wouldn't look too bad and Jeffrey took the holeshot and ran away with Seewer, they gapped the third guy about 40sec, Guillod on that given moment, and 4 laps before the end, Jeffrey got past by Seewer and i guess he wasn't ready yet. Didn't look like bullet, yet. But he is getting stronger. Leok was third again. Expressed the field from a last 4 lap freight train. Coming from 6th to 4th.

Yeah i can remember, ricky smoking everyone in the states but i guess everts still went with him and everts might have beaten him, but i won't bet on that.
Villopoto was also amultitalent champion of the great AMA series and then somehow embarrassed himself in the euro series, cause he couldn't literally keep the pace.

So Americas fast mx times ended with Ricky, now the euros have caught THE US & A and give them a run for the money. So don't be disappointed, itisjust the way it has turned out right now.

And don't please start with the sx shit, wehave f1 here, and our formula is turning to the right also from time to time. You guys keep up the making a left turn indy-nascar shit.

Aryen wrote:

Finished 20 seconds behind Seewer, definitely not 100% yet.

r18b wrote:

Really ?? Did you expect him to win ? He is not even 50%..

shaffstall721 wrote:

Not even fifty percent lol cmon

NateDawg wrote:

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race...

You're crazy if you think AC has matched RC in outdoors! Carmichael is UNDEFEATED outdoors, never lost a single title. And that's while having to race Supercross during the winter and spring.

RC retired from full time racing at 27 with 10 out of 10 outdoor championships. AC is 33 and still only has 9 titles out of 15. Also, RC has 2 perfect seasons and one of those was against a prime Chad Reed and Kevin Windham. RC is better and it's not even close.

Ranman68 wrote:

It was simply about total number of outdoor titles Cairoli has, and I did include that RC had supercross titles in addition to all the outdoor...

It was simply about total number of outdoor titles Cairoli has, and I did include that RC had supercross titles in addition to all the outdoor titles. I included that RC retired young and could've won more titles most likely. Try to keep what I said in it's context and not argue by stating things that I stated myself. If you disagree and want to tell me why, then cool. I'm not "crazy" though.

NateDawg wrote:

"I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors." I don't see how else...

"I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors."

I don't see how else I'm supposed to interpret that statement... Also, even from a statistics standpoint AC hasn't matched him. Compare their win percentages, Cairoli is nowhere close. He hasn't even passed RC for outdoor wins yet and he's had 5 extra seasons and more races per season to do it.

Ranman68 wrote:

It was simply about total number of outdoor titles Cairoli has, and I did include that RC had supercross titles in addition to all the outdoor...

It was simply about total number of outdoor titles Cairoli has, and I did include that RC had supercross titles in addition to all the outdoor titles. I included that RC retired young and could've won more titles most likely. Try to keep what I said in it's context and not argue by stating things that I stated myself. If you disagree and want to tell me why, then cool. I'm not "crazy" though.

NateDawg wrote:

"I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors." I don't see how else...

"I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors."

I don't see how else I'm supposed to interpret that statement... Also, even from a statistics standpoint AC hasn't matched him. Compare their win percentages, Cairoli is nowhere close. He hasn't even passed RC for outdoor wins yet and he's had 5 extra seasons and more races per season to do it.

Ranman68 wrote:

Alright man. Fair enough. I didn't dig into statistics and thought they were pretty close in outdoor wins even though RC did it in a shorter...

Alright man. Fair enough. I didn't dig into statistics and thought they were pretty close in outdoor wins even though RC did it in a shorter period of time. If Carmichael was that superior in wins and win percentages, then i was wrong about Cairoli being an equal outdoors. My bad. I'm not at all trying to say RC wasn't the baddest cat to ever swing a leg over a dirt bike. He was. No doubt. I'll be the first to dispute anyone who says he wasn't. More than anything, I was just trying to give Cairoli his due credit. Even if it was a little too much.

Ray_MXS wrote:

You guys are comparing RC:s NATIONAL titles against Cairolis WORLD titles. Not saying RC wasnt one of the greatest of all time, he sure was, but...

You guys are comparing RC:s NATIONAL titles against Cairolis WORLD titles.

Not saying RC wasnt one of the greatest of all time, he sure was, but you cant compare those.

Cairoli surely has a whole heap of national titles as well if you wanna "count" those.
Not that comparing riders from different eras and continents are logical to begin with.

NateDawg wrote:

"I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors." I don't see how else...

"I believe the closest to RC (outdoors at least) is Cairoli. In fact, I would say he has equaled RC outdoors."

I don't see how else I'm supposed to interpret that statement... Also, even from a statistics standpoint AC hasn't matched him. Compare their win percentages, Cairoli is nowhere close. He hasn't even passed RC for outdoor wins yet and he's had 5 extra seasons and more races per season to do it.

Ranman68 wrote:

Alright man. Fair enough. I didn't dig into statistics and thought they were pretty close in outdoor wins even though RC did it in a shorter...

Alright man. Fair enough. I didn't dig into statistics and thought they were pretty close in outdoor wins even though RC did it in a shorter period of time. If Carmichael was that superior in wins and win percentages, then i was wrong about Cairoli being an equal outdoors. My bad. I'm not at all trying to say RC wasn't the baddest cat to ever swing a leg over a dirt bike. He was. No doubt. I'll be the first to dispute anyone who says he wasn't. More than anything, I was just trying to give Cairoli his due credit. Even if it was a little too much.

RichardLoots wrote:

dude youre hilarious

NateDawg wrote:

Dude, this was back when USA dominated the MXoN every year. Carmichael, Stewart, Reed, and Windham were 4 of the baddest dudes on the planet. RC...

Dude, this was back when USA dominated the MXoN every year. Carmichael, Stewart, Reed, and Windham were 4 of the baddest dudes on the planet. RC proved multiple times he could smoke the best MXGP guys, even at their own tracks (Ernee and Zolder).

Ranman68 wrote:

No. Not really. You're just a two faced, meme posting idiot with Herlings' ass as your profile pic, and you don't like things I say.

Ranman68 wrote:

No. Not really. You're just a two faced, meme posting idiot with Herlings' ass as your profile pic, and you don't like things I say.

Ray_MXS wrote:

To be fair, Its quite easy to dislike anything you write as this point.

Ranman68 wrote:

Quite easy for a european like you or Loots. If you don't like things I say, you can always skip on by and not read it...

Quite easy for a european like you or Loots. If you don't like things I say, you can always skip on by and not read it. I've told that dumbass Loots the same thing. Skip on by. I don't care who likes it and who doesn't. I didn't address you and you don't have to address me.

Ranman68 wrote:

Quite easy for a european like you or Loots. If you don't like things I say, you can always skip on by and not read it...

Quite easy for a european like you or Loots. If you don't like things I say, you can always skip on by and not read it. I've told that dumbass Loots the same thing. Skip on by. I don't care who likes it and who doesn't. I didn't address you and you don't have to address me.

Ray_MXS wrote:

It has nothing to do with what nationality you, Loots or anyone else is, but its no surprise you bring that up, like you always do...

It has nothing to do with what nationality you, Loots or anyone else is, but its no surprise you bring that up, like you always do.

You just write a lot of stupid shit.

Taddy347 wrote:

Can you remember 2012 in Lommel.

He lapped Barcia and Baggett.

His first time on a big Bike !!!

He was 18 years old !!! :D

Taddy347 wrote:

Can you remember 2012 in Lommel.

He lapped Barcia and Baggett.

His first time on a big Bike !!!

He was 18 years old !!! :D

Taddy347 wrote:

Can you remember 2012 in Lommel.

He lapped Barcia and Baggett.

His first time on a big Bike !!!

He was 18 years old !!! :D

Ranman68 wrote:

DeStouwer wrote:

Opened this thread, first thing I read was [i]"In this RC discussion, I think it's fair to say that overall, RC is the greatest of all...

Opened this thread, first thing I read was "In this RC discussion, I think it's fair to say that overall, RC is the greatest of all time".

Okay, bye.