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6/12/2020 3:15pm
Well, I got bit by the Vintage bug and jumped in with both feet! A buddy of mine at work was trying to convince our little group to put a team together for Midwest VMX's ROC in Sept. The race is 5 different riders on 5 different eras of bikes from pre-1976 to modern.
We have the 5 riders and 3 eras of bikes covered. So I started a search for a pre76 bike to fill that gap. I found this Pursang on Clist about 3.5 hrs away, and even after finding out it didn't really fit the bill for what I was looking for, decided to go get it. My dad was a big Bultaco dealer in the 70s, so there is some sentimental value there as well.


We have the 5 riders and 3 eras of bikes covered. So I started a search for a pre76 bike to fill that gap. I found this Pursang on Clist about 3.5 hrs away, and even after finding out it didn't really fit the bill for what I was looking for, decided to go get it. My dad was a big Bultaco dealer in the 70s, so there is some sentimental value there as well.


Not stuck. Compression is really good. Stopped there for fear that I was going to drive my price up!
He also had 2 other Buls there: a really clean 74 Matador Six Days and a awful looking '60something ?? No interest in the really old one, but worked a deal for the Pursang and Matador and brought them both home.
Plan for now is to get the Pursang up and running
with minimal upgrades to make it safe by mid-June and give it a quick shakedown ride to see what else it needs.
Talking to some of the Bultaco experts and parts sources I believe it is original right down to the stock tires!
Initial parts list:
- carb to intake boot (torn)
- kill switch (mangled)
- throttle housing/cable (damaged)
- handlebars ( right side damaged: crease where straightened)
- air filter (nothing left of original)
- tubes ( tires are pretty dry rotted too, but finding out they are original has me tempted to try to salvage them...)
- chain (missing)
That should be enough to get her running.
I've also been told that the stock 6 spd trans often barely made it out of the showroom before failing, so I may be in for something there as well.
The Shop
DeCal Works Huge Plastic Inventory of UFO and Polisport kits.
Luxon 4-Post Bar Mounts
$189.95 - $239.95
Free shipping: VITALMX
http://www.bultacoclassic.com/
https://www.dcvmx.com/xcart/home.php
Hughs will have most if not all parts you need. DC has a lot of items that help get a VMX bike back on the track. Keep in mind, this is a 40+ year old bike. Always something to clean or adjust.
Enjoy your new toy!
I hadn't checked out DC before but definitely looks like a useful site.
Found a mouse nest where the filter was supposed to be.
Someone has done an interesting "paint job" on the frame. Looks like they took a brush with some silver paint to a few areas of the frame that they could reach without actually removing any parts.
Got to love the Genuine Bultaco bolts!
We got the front end put back together a couple nights ago. Wheel bearings feel fine and the brakes are serviceable.
The steering stem bearing don't feel awesome, but they will work for the few short rides this fall before the complete teardown. I decided to go with Renthal "Vintage High" bars. Not sure if purists would frown on not sticking with steel bars, but I am partial to Renthal products.
New throttle and brake cables, new Magura throttle housing, some Renthal full waffle medium grips, and a new front number plate to finish it off for the night.
Pulled the original Bing Model 84 32mm carb apart and again surprised to find it to not be full of crud, just some residual oil in the bowl. Just documented the jetting, cleaned it out a little and stuck it back together.
Oiled up the new Uni Filter and called it a night.
If all goes well, I will finally be trying to fire it up either this weekend or sometime next week.
Putting the tank back on I really realized how much the paint is peeling. I will have some decisions to make later on as to how pretty I want to make this thing.
The bracket holding the seat on only had 1 of 4 rivets still somewhat holding on. The girls cleaned and prepped it, then we drilled out what was left of the old rivets and put in some slightly larger ones that would grab the rounded out holes.
Got it hung back together minus the pipe and chain.
I was getting excited to put the last couple things on and fire her up, but after searching my garage, I realized I didn't have any pre-mix on hand (sold my last 2T in '17, but thought I still had some oil laying around). So I figured i would just change the trans oil and call it a night.
As the drain plug slipped thru my fingers into the drain pan, I noticed something else drop. I proceeded to fish around in what looked like fairly clean oil...
A few shavings, I'm okay with, but getting an entire tooth out with the oil was a real bummer.
One of the Bultaco experts I consulted with ( Woody Graves from Midwest VMX) before buying it told me at the start that these are great little bikes, but the 6 spd trans was garbage. His suggestion was to immediately pull the engine and swap to the 5 spd. I thought (hoped?) I could put that off...
Oh well, guess she is coming apart now. We have a lot going on this summer, but should have time to get it swapped in time to get some rides in ahead of the Sept race.
......................thinking on this for a minute, that broken tooth is probably "why" the seller thought it (engine) was stuck.
Pit Row
My dad has an engine with a 5 spd laying around that I am going to harvest the necessary trans parts from, but I decided to put the Pursang on hold until the winter.
Instead, I decided to attack the 74 Matador. For the race we are doing in a couple weeks. Our other pre76 option fell thru, and we still have the 77 PE250 for the group the Pursang would run, so we had that covered for the race, and I didn't want to rush that project.
Here is how it looked on arrival:
Stripped it down to put a parts list together:
Then put in another order with Hugh's Bultaco:
After about a half a day in the dunk tank, it came up pretty good:
Didn't want to break bolts off in the case, so I loaded up and took the bike over to my dad's place:
A little bit of heat and everything came apart in one piece. Then I got a lesson on cleaning points (even though I had a new set sitting on the bench!)
He still has a bunch of his gauges from the dealership, but we had to rig up a test light to confirm the timing.
After a nice afternoon hanging with my dad, we have good spark, and I now have a spare set of points!
1 - she is running a little rich and I still have some crud coming out of the tank.
2 - the fork springs feel like they are set up for a feather
3 - right side shift is really weird!
I flushed the tank on more time, and also dropped the needle to the lowest spot (only 3 clip positions on the Amal). Once i figured out how to use the Tickler properly, she now starts 3rd or 4th kick cold and 1st or 2nd warm.
For the forks, I pillaged the Pursang one more time. I was surprised to see the springs were the same length even though the Pursang forks were 3" taller.
Couldn't tell actual spring rate, but they felt stiffer and someone had put in a semi-progressive 3 pc spring setup in the Pursang:
A buddy of mine suggested grabbing some straight rate 50 wt motor oil to help slow them down a little too:
Got it all back together a couple days before the race and it felt like it might be rideable.
Our team:
ROC 1 - bikes 1975 and older: 1974 Bultaco Matador SD
ROC 2 - 1976-1981: 1977 Suzuki PE250
ROC 3 - 1982-1989: 1985 Suzuki RM250
ROC 4 - 1990-2001: 1998 Suzuki RMX250
ROC 4 - 2002-pres: 2018 KTM 450
I'm proud to say that the Matador held together great. Only incident was toward the end of the first moto while trying to hold onto 7th (out of 13 teams) I overcooked a corner and then forgot which side the rear brake was on! Missed the rut and bailed, then couldn't find neutral and lost 3 spots.
In the end we were able to pull off 4th overall as a team!
In facebook there are diferents Bultaco groups
https://www.facebook.com/search/groups/?q=bultaco&epa=SERP_TAB
https://www.facebook.com/groups/581085775573567/?ref=br_rs
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bultaco/?ref=br_rs
Everything came apart really easily and was well greased.
My older daughter has outgrown her CRF70, so we sold that and grabbed a basket case TTR125LE that someone dumped on my dad about 8 yrs ago.
May do a more detailed build thread on this too, but here are before and after pics.
It is mostly wrapped up now with just a couple minor details to finish up.
Some more moisture in the ignition, but it had good spark, so hopefully just clean it up and hang it back together in the end. Also realise I don't have the right puller for the Motoplat flywheel, so back on the phone with Hughes Bultaco...
I hadn't realized initially that the shift shaft actually goes out both sides of the engine. So, I could switch this to right side shift if I so chose (not going to happen!)
The clutch is another learning experience for me. Seems to be in decent shape, but I had not worked on a set up like this before with a chain drive and metal on metal plates.
More to come...
The piston doesn't look like it has much time on it, and the gouges in the cylinder aren't too deep, so I'm hoping it will clean up okay. What has me nervous is that Hugh's told me that he has standard and 1st & 2nd oversize available. This piston has a 0.50 stamped in it, so a little worried im already at the 2nd over bore...
Going to take it over to my dad's place this weekend and measure it up.
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