Daytona Deathcross

Edited Date/Time 1/16/2020 8:58am
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona layout?

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/Cooksey-Straight-To-The-Point-Daytona-…
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3/12/2019 5:19pm
I think it’s done and over with. On to Indy #Quitcherbichin
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3/12/2019 5:34pm
Best venue so far that offered great racing and didn't turn into a follow the leader like tracks of the past. Bummed for Plessinger, but that can happen anywhere.
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3/12/2019 5:44pm
ledger wrote:
Best venue so far that offered great racing and didn't turn into a follow the leader like tracks of the past. Bummed for Plessinger, but that...
Best venue so far that offered great racing and didn't turn into a follow the leader like tracks of the past. Bummed for Plessinger, but that can happen anywhere.
I agree. I think Daytona was the best round of racing so far this year, and there have been some good ones.
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3/12/2019 5:55pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2019 5:56pm
I think you try too hard to be edgy and controversial. It comes off as very disingenuous since it’s quite obvious that you do it just for clicks. Stop taking the easy way out and write something truly thought provoking.
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3/12/2019 6:09pm
Waaaaaaah...
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3/12/2019 6:11pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2019 6:14pm
This seems a bit overly dramatic...

"The start was extremely dangerous, a high-speed sweeper followed by man-made chop that led into a sandpit turn. Riders who got to the sandpit first covered their competition in roost, leaving them temporarily blinded."

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aeffertz wrote:
This seems a bit overly dramatic... "The start was [b]extremely dangerous[/b], a high-speed sweeper followed by man-made chop that led into a sandpit turn. Riders who...
This seems a bit overly dramatic...

"The start was extremely dangerous, a high-speed sweeper followed by man-made chop that led into a sandpit turn. Riders who got to the sandpit first covered their competition in roost, leaving them temporarily blinded."

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Being there in person- it did seem like every race someone crashed on the sweeping corner (or ran off the track- one time head first into a concrete barrier, or something, way off the track, this was the race that got red flagged) and nearly every race there was a pile up in the sand corner..

The sand corner pile ups were no problem as guys were slowed down, the start did seem a bit sketchy..


Did it not look that way on TV?
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3/12/2019 6:28pm
aeffertz wrote:
This seems a bit overly dramatic... "The start was [b]extremely dangerous[/b], a high-speed sweeper followed by man-made chop that led into a sandpit turn. Riders who...
This seems a bit overly dramatic...

"The start was extremely dangerous, a high-speed sweeper followed by man-made chop that led into a sandpit turn. Riders who got to the sandpit first covered their competition in roost, leaving them temporarily blinded."

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Brad460 wrote:
Being there in person- it did seem like every race someone crashed on the sweeping corner (or ran off the track- one time head first into...
Being there in person- it did seem like every race someone crashed on the sweeping corner (or ran off the track- one time head first into a concrete barrier, or something, way off the track, this was the race that got red flagged) and nearly every race there was a pile up in the sand corner..

The sand corner pile ups were no problem as guys were slowed down, the start did seem a bit sketchy..


Did it not look that way on TV?
It looked like a dirt bike race...
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3/12/2019 6:31pm
The track was fine.
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aeffertz wrote:
This seems a bit overly dramatic... "The start was [b]extremely dangerous[/b], a high-speed sweeper followed by man-made chop that led into a sandpit turn. Riders who...
This seems a bit overly dramatic...

"The start was extremely dangerous, a high-speed sweeper followed by man-made chop that led into a sandpit turn. Riders who got to the sandpit first covered their competition in roost, leaving them temporarily blinded."

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Brad460 wrote:
Being there in person- it did seem like every race someone crashed on the sweeping corner (or ran off the track- one time head first into...
Being there in person- it did seem like every race someone crashed on the sweeping corner (or ran off the track- one time head first into a concrete barrier, or something, way off the track, this was the race that got red flagged) and nearly every race there was a pile up in the sand corner..

The sand corner pile ups were no problem as guys were slowed down, the start did seem a bit sketchy..


Did it not look that way on TV?
Moto man wrote:
It looked like a dirt bike race...
Oh no shit huh?

I should clarify what I was asking...Did they show the guy hit the concrete barrier?
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Finally a track where riders had many passing options. Where it wasn't strictly about "hitting your marks" and setting up block passes. Real racing where the fastest riders can actually go the fastest, and not totally relying on a good start to do well. I liked it.
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3/12/2019 9:12pm
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona...
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona layout?

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/Cooksey-Straight-To-The-Point-Daytona-…
I think by putting "Deathcross" in your title makes you a complete moron. Cool
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3/12/2019 9:22pm
I don’t know who this Cooksey guy is but why has he been creating threads with click bait titles baiting vital guys to read his mind numbing articles? Do people care what he thinks?

Has anyone noticed his burner Twitter accounts that ask questions to PulpMX asking questions in line with “Steve, did you read Cooksey’s article on...?”
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It's hard to agree with your take when the second 450 heat race was arguably the best heat race we've seen in years.
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3/12/2019 9:26pm
Logged in just to say that article is trash. The track was fine, people crash and have injuries at every round
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3/12/2019 9:52pm
Best track ever.
Best racing in years.
Best racers had time and track to make it happen.
Finally, a track to show everyone why we lost at MX Nations, because we rule at mean nasty supercross!

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3/12/2019 10:00pm
I loved that track! We need more like it.


The bikes are so easy to ride these days, and that isn’t changing, so the tracks need to be harder. Longer rhythm lanes, deeper/longer sand sections, long whoop sections.

Force these guys into mistakes.

That was my favorite track of the year so far.
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3/12/2019 10:01pm
Deathcross??

Cooksey, you should take up playing Bridge, (they also dope) so there will be plenty to talk about.

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3/12/2019 10:05pm
MXD wrote:
I think you try too hard to be edgy and controversial. It comes off as very disingenuous since it’s quite obvious that you do it just...
I think you try too hard to be edgy and controversial. It comes off as very disingenuous since it’s quite obvious that you do it just for clicks. Stop taking the easy way out and write something truly thought provoking.
I highly doubt that's what he's going for. I appreciate his input
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ledger wrote:
Best venue so far that offered great racing and didn't turn into a follow the leader like tracks of the past. Bummed for Plessinger, but that...
Best venue so far that offered great racing and didn't turn into a follow the leader like tracks of the past. Bummed for Plessinger, but that can happen anywhere.
My way of thinking too Ledgebro!
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3/12/2019 10:25pm
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona...
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona layout?

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/Cooksey-Straight-To-The-Point-Daytona-…
I agree with you. The sports evolving into something that i think is the wrong direction. The rhythms were redundant and way too long. Like 5 corners on the whole track. It did lead to good racing but was very very over the top with risk.

Yes you morans mx/sx is risky but going in a direction that leads to career altering injuries as opposed to a simple fracture or tear isnt the right way to go.

Designing tracks with obstacles that are challenging yet not disastrous should you miscalculate by 6 inches should be the goal.

Tampa's sand section from last year is a good example of a section with a ton of difficulty but relatively low risk. The section directly before it where seely crashed and was in a wheelchair for months and out for the entire year is an example where theres no room for error and the cost is massive. Daytonas track was basically that type of risk the entire time.
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3/12/2019 10:27pm
I think your moto-journalism license should be revoked for writing whatever this is:

"Every race riders in the back of the pack fell, similar to the giant lime-infused puddle at San Diego. Unlike San Diego this was by design."

j/k but I think you theme here was weak and assumed a sanitized version of Supercross to which I have not been previously exposed. Grinning

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3/12/2019 11:19pm
Wow you guys are brutal, my opinion is unpopular but it’s how I feel. Every single race there was a crash in the sand and the name Deathcross is a joke. You guys ever hear Nicoletti call it “Deathcross” ? I thought it was funny.
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3/12/2019 11:22pm
Moto man wrote:
I don’t know who this Cooksey guy is but why has he been creating threads with click bait titles baiting vital guys to read his mind...
I don’t know who this Cooksey guy is but why has he been creating threads with click bait titles baiting vital guys to read his mind numbing articles? Do people care what he thinks?

Has anyone noticed his burner Twitter accounts that ask questions to PulpMX asking questions in line with “Steve, did you read Cooksey’s article on...?”
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3/12/2019 11:23pm
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona...
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona layout?

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/Cooksey-Straight-To-The-Point-Daytona-…
lostboy819 wrote:
I think by putting "Deathcross" in your title makes you a complete moron. Cool
Fair enough ?? I have been called worse.
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3/12/2019 11:24pm
Wow you guys are brutal, my opinion is unpopular but it’s how I feel. Every single race there was a crash in the sand and the...
Wow you guys are brutal, my opinion is unpopular but it’s how I feel. Every single race there was a crash in the sand and the name Deathcross is a joke. You guys ever hear Nicoletti call it “Deathcross” ? I thought it was funny.
"Wow you guys are brutal"

Don't like it, don't ask for other people's opinion.
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3/12/2019 11:26pm
Wow you guys are brutal, my opinion is unpopular but it’s how I feel. Every single race there was a crash in the sand and the...
Wow you guys are brutal, my opinion is unpopular but it’s how I feel. Every single race there was a crash in the sand and the name Deathcross is a joke. You guys ever hear Nicoletti call it “Deathcross” ? I thought it was funny.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
"Wow you guys are brutal"

Don't like it, don't ask for other people's opinion.
Fine by me, if I was sensitive I definitely wouldn’t be doing what I am doing.
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wow...

"Thanks! Here is the paragraph from my first article on Vital: Chris Cooksey is life-long motorcross enthusiast.... " Dry
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3/13/2019 3:31am Edited Date/Time 3/13/2019 3:32am
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona...
I voiced my opinion about the track layout and I know a lot of current racers troll these forums. What did you think of the Daytona layout?

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/Cooksey-Straight-To-The-Point-Daytona-…
Not all opinions are home runs kid.

First its hard to take an opinion as harsh of a stance on this against the GOAT's ability to design a track coming from a nobody. If Kevin Windham wrote this it MIGHT have some validity to this. Supercross is all about timing and a rider has his own responsibility for his own safety even at this level. If they don't like the track, focus on riding in your limits and get out safe for the next round.

This article does come off as if you sat back and thought, "hmmm what can I write that will get my name out there, I know, be controversial" Sounds thirsty.
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3/13/2019 3:50am
SLAPAHO wrote:
wow...

"Thanks! Here is the paragraph from my first article on Vital: Chris Cooksey is life-long motorcross enthusiast.... " Dry
Motor-cross!!!! Woohoo
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