Saturdays will be busy

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zookrider62! 4/21/2009 12:28pm
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8:30am - 8:45am 450 Class Practice Grp B -
8:50am - 9:05am 450 Class Practice Grp A -
9:10am - 9:25am 250 Class Practice Grp A -
9:30am - 9:45am 250 Class Practice Grp B
10 05 Track Maintenance
10 20 450 10:05am - 10:20am Class Practice Grp B -
10:25am - 10:40am 450 Class Practice Grp A -
10:45am - 11:00am 250 Class Practice Grp A -
11:05am - 11:20am 250 Class Practice Grp B

They really need to fix this and give the privateers some break on the track
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I believe they show highlites from the 1st 450 moto. Not sure how they do the 250F class
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Are they doing Amateur day on Sundays only now? Seems like we used to do Thursday Friday here at GH. I may be wrong.

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Cygnus 4/21/2009 12:41pm
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I am glad I grew up when "On any Sunday" meant something.
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Did you notice that at some of the races the 450 class goes first!!
Or is that a misprint??
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P 4/21/2009 12:43pm
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That's a lot of racing!!

It's cool to see both women's motos on race day.


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zookrider62! wrote:
8:30am - 8:45am 450 Class Practice Grp B - 8:50am - 9:05am 450 Class Practice Grp A - 9:10am - 9:25am 250 Class Practice Grp A...
8:30am - 8:45am 450 Class Practice Grp B -
8:50am - 9:05am 450 Class Practice Grp A -
9:10am - 9:25am 250 Class Practice Grp A -
9:30am - 9:45am 250 Class Practice Grp B
10 05 Track Maintenance
10 20 450 10:05am - 10:20am Class Practice Grp B -
10:25am - 10:40am 450 Class Practice Grp A -
10:45am - 11:00am 250 Class Practice Grp A -
11:05am - 11:20am 250 Class Practice Grp B

They really need to fix this and give the privateers some break on the track
What do you mean?


The schedule actually looks pretty good. I thought it would be a lot tighter than this.
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minidad wrote:
Did you notice that at some of the races the 450 class goes first!!
Or is that a misprint??
I believe that I read about that change so I don't believe that it is a misprint.


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sbarrington314 4/21/2009 12:47pm
4/21/2009 12:47pm
what the hell is a friday night fan fest?
i cant believe there still doing timed qualifying. what a rip off for the fans.
i was going to go to 4 nats this year. looks like im just doing the closest 2. i thought id actually get to see some racing this year. instead i get to watch practice all day.
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flarider 4/21/2009 12:51pm
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No comment regarding the class names?


and yes, the 450's go first at some venues for TV purposes



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rallendude 4/21/2009 1:01pm
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It looks like an awful late finish time at 6:30 pm.

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DrSweden 4/21/2009 1:01pm
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I hope they show both races in full like they do in the MXGP. Sux to cut stuff down like that...
ShoujoKakumei 4/21/2009 1:17pm
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rallendude wrote:
It looks like an awful late finish time at 6:30 pm.

This is what I was thinking too. Seems like a long day for everyone involved.
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zookrider62! wrote:
8:30am - 8:45am 450 Class Practice Grp B - 8:50am - 9:05am 450 Class Practice Grp A - 9:10am - 9:25am 250 Class Practice Grp A...
8:30am - 8:45am 450 Class Practice Grp B -
8:50am - 9:05am 450 Class Practice Grp A -
9:10am - 9:25am 250 Class Practice Grp A -
9:30am - 9:45am 250 Class Practice Grp B
10 05 Track Maintenance
10 20 450 10:05am - 10:20am Class Practice Grp B -
10:25am - 10:40am 450 Class Practice Grp A -
10:45am - 11:00am 250 Class Practice Grp A -
11:05am - 11:20am 250 Class Practice Grp B

They really need to fix this and give the privateers some break on the track
mxer146 wrote:
What do you mean?


The schedule actually looks pretty good. I thought it would be a lot tighter than this.
Privateers get to ride the track when its at its worst conditions. When its brand new and doesnt have all the lines formed yet, and then when its been completely trashed. Notice it goes BAAB, BAAB. Seems like they could do ABAB, BABA.


And yes 450s go first at live rounds, and amatuer day is Sunday. All a great imrpovement to me.
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raddad 4/21/2009 1:29pm
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I like it! Well thought out and the best part is that the guys that are running this thing are racers.. I think the racers with business minds on here understand why all the changes. I hope it works and it will be exiting to see something new and interestingSmile
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
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lose the womens races and setup a "class B" single moto, up and comers race so the factory peeps can see what is coming down the pipe.


powder puff racing is not what people want to see more than a couple times

as for the daily schedule i am looking forward to it.

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REFEREE 4/21/2009 3:06pm
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2 STROKE race at Red Bud!!!!! I did not see where they have a practice time scheduled on Saturday.
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Racetime 4/21/2009 3:11pm
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Looks good overall, maybe a bit ambitious.

Some of you sure complain a lot.

If they move things around for TV, so what.. so does pro football.

WMA races add more interest and PR. Sometimes big mags are more interested in them.

Smile

I'm waiting for Sunday age 16-18 unpaid "amateurs" (on 2-strokes) that would have been pros making money before the rule change. College ball club model.

Nah, would never happen!
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GuyB 4/21/2009 3:14pm
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Cygnus wrote:
I am glad I grew up when "On any Sunday" meant something.
It still does. That's the day you go riding after watching the pros on Saturday. Wink

Other than yeah, they'll be some long days, I will say one thing...the light for photos should be rather epic late in the afternoon.
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GuyB 4/21/2009 3:17pm
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Oh...and Thunder Valley's still a night race.
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GuyB wrote:
It still does. That's the day you go riding after watching the pros on Saturday. ;) Other than yeah, they'll be some long days, I will...
It still does. That's the day you go riding after watching the pros on Saturday. Wink

Other than yeah, they'll be some long days, I will say one thing...the light for photos should be rather epic late in the afternoon.
I was just being nostalgic.

I had one of my biggest turnouts last year on Sunday after Thunder Valley!
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OW38B 4/21/2009 3:26pm
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flarider wrote:
No comment regarding the class names?


and yes, the 450's go first at some venues for TV purposes



I saw that, 450 and 250 are a step in the right direction.

Now the only problem is having a 250cc class that you don't allow 250's in. Huh
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jbomx363 4/21/2009 3:29pm
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Hate it.

BTW....all tracks are choosing their own times when they will run amateur days. Some are before the National, some are on the Sunday afterward.
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GuyB 4/21/2009 3:29pm
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Racetime wrote:
Looks good overall, maybe a bit ambitious. Some of you sure complain a lot. If they move things around for TV, so what.. so does pro...
Looks good overall, maybe a bit ambitious.

Some of you sure complain a lot.

If they move things around for TV, so what.. so does pro football.

WMA races add more interest and PR. Sometimes big mags are more interested in them.

Smile

I'm waiting for Sunday age 16-18 unpaid "amateurs" (on 2-strokes) that would have been pros making money before the rule change. College ball club model.

Nah, would never happen!
Keep waiting...or do it yourself. Let's see, how many of the OEs currently racing in the U.S. are still doing 125 two-strokes? KTM and Yamaha?

Actually, here's one thing to help you out. The rule change to age 18 was actually initiated by the OEMs, and the folks in SX and MX agreed. There were some liability concerns.
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cdm806 4/21/2009 3:34pm
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So much for a "one day format". With Tech inspection from 3-7pm on Friday, that adds a whole other day of travel to the weekend for races some of were planning on traveling to on Friday and home on Sunday.
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OW38B 4/21/2009 3:39pm
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Might have some attendance issues having the race on Saturdays.

The club I belong to has races mostly on Sundays, when we do have a Saturday race attendance drops 25% to 30%. We shall see if this has any effect on outdoor numbers this year.

Anyway, I'll be at Glen Helen on either day with a smile on my face.
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GuyB 4/21/2009 3:44pm
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Me too...see you there...
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Racetime 4/21/2009 3:48pm
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Racetime wrote:
Looks good overall, maybe a bit ambitious. Some of you sure complain a lot. If they move things around for TV, so what.. so does pro...
Looks good overall, maybe a bit ambitious.

Some of you sure complain a lot.

If they move things around for TV, so what.. so does pro football.

WMA races add more interest and PR. Sometimes big mags are more interested in them.

Smile

I'm waiting for Sunday age 16-18 unpaid "amateurs" (on 2-strokes) that would have been pros making money before the rule change. College ball club model.

Nah, would never happen!
GuyB wrote:
Keep waiting...or do it yourself. Let's see, how many of the OEs currently racing in the U.S. are still doing 125 two-strokes? KTM and Yamaha? Actually...
Keep waiting...or do it yourself. Let's see, how many of the OEs currently racing in the U.S. are still doing 125 two-strokes? KTM and Yamaha?

Actually, here's one thing to help you out. The rule change to age 18 was actually initiated by the OEMs, and the folks in SX and MX agreed. There were some liability concerns.
I'm sure there are good reasons to do it. I just forgot my bible.... silly me.

OEMs probably would rather avoid paying salaries to those guys, put it off 2 years. Money is tight...

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