Im sold. Triple crown for the win.

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It's more fun to watch, with the normal format there's a couple heat races and ton of filler then the main event. Triple crown makes it easier to watch for the whole three hours.
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The only part I didn’t like was on the final 450 race. For some reason the camera zoomed way too far out on the start. You could barely see who was who going through the first turn.
2/24/2019 8:59am
It's not even close, the triple crown format is way better and the future of supercross for sure. Those who are uncomfortable with change are going to have to accept it.
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2/24/2019 9:31am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2019 9:36am
Mr. Knobby wrote:
It's not even close, the triple crown format is way better and the future of supercross for sure. Those who are uncomfortable with change are going...
It's not even close, the triple crown format is way better and the future of supercross for sure. Those who are uncomfortable with change are going to have to accept it.
You don't have to accept it. In my case if it does go that route 100% I'll just stick to watching MX only.
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2/24/2019 9:40am
For me it was interesting because when I sat down to watch the TV broadcast I wasn't even aware it was a triple crown event. Even with the time delay, it took the first 250 main to realize no heats. There is definitely more intense racing. But it's effect on the points battle is the biggest factor, more oppotunities to regain points as well as lose them and very critical to be consistent. Roczen fell say behind, Eli made points up and Coop seemed to benefit the most.
2/24/2019 9:51am
689 wrote:
Makes for great entertainment but I would rather see guys who are in shape get rewarded.
You don't have to be in shape to race 3 sprints in a 2 hour window?
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2/24/2019 9:56am
Mr. Knobby wrote:
It's not even close, the triple crown format is way better and the future of supercross for sure. Those who are uncomfortable with change are going...
It's not even close, the triple crown format is way better and the future of supercross for sure. Those who are uncomfortable with change are going to have to accept it.
H4L wrote:
You don't have to accept it. In my case if it does go that route 100% I'll just stick to watching MX only.
If they were to go to a triple crown format for all races, it wouldnt take long for the sport to die off...
without a chance for the other 40-60 riders to make the mains, this would kill it, IMO
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2/24/2019 10:13am
Eli seemed only to need 12 minutes in the first moto,
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If they were to go to a triple crown format for all races, it wouldnt take long for the sport to die off... without a chance...
If they were to go to a triple crown format for all races, it wouldnt take long for the sport to die off...
without a chance for the other 40-60 riders to make the mains, this would kill it, IMO
As an avid fan for a few decades I do wonder where the sport will be in 10 yrs. from now. I sure hope it doesn't die off & they don't go to it exclusively.
The top teams already have many advantages & feel the triple crown is just another hurdle for the true privateers. I don't mind 2-3 triple crown formats sprinkled here & there to make it interesting though, but not a fan of it.
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2/24/2019 10:20am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2019 10:22am
With this format I think it would be cool if we took the top 20 guys that didnt qualify,regardless of displacement; and let them have their own race.
They could line up afer the 450s and run a 10 or 12 lap race.Run them twice ,instead of three times .This would give these guys more exposure and experience.
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I'm a big fan of more races with the top stars, but I also do not want to kill off privateers from getting TV time for their sponsors.

In a perfect racing world, the show would start with the LCQs and then it would be a two race points paying format for the mains. This would also help the synergy between SX and MX for the casual fan. Keep the three race format for the Monster Cup.
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2/24/2019 10:34am
Motofinne wrote:
I'm still not a fan. I think the concept is okay but 3 "mains" or what ever they are called is too much. It takes away...
I'm still not a fan. I think the concept is okay but 3 "mains" or what ever they are called is too much. It takes away from the excitement and the climax in my opinion, they are basically 3 heat races that are combined in the end to a result.

Make it 2 races and give actual points towards the championship for both of the races.

Edit: Forgot one thing. It seems like the producers of the TV/stream are completely clueless regarding this format. The fact that 50% of the last main went by without showing once the overall standings says it all. This format is not ready yet on so many levels.
I agree with all that! I think 2 races at the most would be much better, it would give just a bit more time for those who got a bad start to work there way back up front.
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2/24/2019 10:47am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2019 10:48am
Enough with the damn privateers not getting their time. This is about the best in the world. They can run supercross futures the next day if they dont make the main show. People tune in to see eli tomac go from 11th to 1st not ricky bobby roll the whoops, roll the triple and miss the main by 14 spots
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Question wrote:
I hate to say for the privateers that I liked it, a bit of change for a few rounds is cool. The only bad thing I...
I hate to say for the privateers that I liked it, a bit of change for a few rounds is cool.

The only bad thing I noticed was that it was really difficult to know the overall standings during the 2nd moto, and even more during the 3rd one. I think the TV crew can do better, for instance at some point Webb was winning and Reed was probably second, ... but we had no clue ... To have the top 8 overall standings + the points would be cool in order to follow which rider need to make passes to get the win, a podium or the top 5.
Yes i Definitely agree about the points
Id like to see overall display shown
At some points , and honestly i think i would like to see a Two moto Format Tried, like 15's and included LCQ's in the night show ,
I think those changes would be the hot ticket
And they could still talk about who is
In contention for the win during the 2nd
Moto, heat , main , gangbang!
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With this format I think it would be cool if we took the top 20 guys that didnt qualify,regardless of displacement; and let them have their...
With this format I think it would be cool if we took the top 20 guys that didnt qualify,regardless of displacement; and let them have their own race.
They could line up afer the 450s and run a 10 or 12 lap race.Run them twice ,instead of three times .This would give these guys more exposure and experience.
This is A great idea Too imo
Even just a 10 lap Race with some small prizes
Or products donated from sponsors or
Sponsors to put up prizes and trophies
Even if it wasnt Televised a B main for the guys not Getting in the main would he Great .
I mean Right now Take a guys Like the Enticknaps
Not to single them out but How long do guys like them Keep chasing this dream if your not getting in the mains ,
I mean Tyler had to not bring his mechanic recently to Minnesota to save money , they are traveling the country
Just to Run practice and Qualifying, and where else can
you go race to make a living if your extremely fast but just coming up a couple spots short?
In another thread a 2nd series was Hypothetically talked about but with No B main i think a 2nd series is Needed
, for people that want to tun a full size track and not arenacross.
How many guys per week are traveling ro the races and not getting into the Main per week?
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2/24/2019 11:36am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2019 11:41am
Langhammx wrote:
If they were to go to a triple crown format for all races, it wouldnt take long for the sport to die off... without a chance...
If they were to go to a triple crown format for all races, it wouldnt take long for the sport to die off...
without a chance for the other 40-60 riders to make the mains, this would kill it, IMO
H4L wrote:
As an avid fan for a few decades I do wonder where the sport will be in 10 yrs. from now. I sure hope it doesn't...
As an avid fan for a few decades I do wonder where the sport will be in 10 yrs. from now. I sure hope it doesn't die off & they don't go to it exclusively.
The top teams already have many advantages & feel the triple crown is just another hurdle for the true privateers. I don't mind 2-3 triple crown formats sprinkled here & there to make it interesting though, but not a fan of it.
California may be an exception but some states are really
Struggling at a Grassroots motocross racing level , it seems like there are no new people joining
Its all 2nd and 3rd generation riders racing , if your family
Or a really close friend isn't into it people arent just going out and buying a new bike and Gear and saying im gonna go try this.
Here in Minnesota i think whats hurting it the most is lack of riding area's if your new you need to just ride for a while and get use to the bike and then learn to jump etc.
The normal route into the sport isnt to just buy a bike and go to a Race and Race.
Unless your on a PW50
So for teens and adults that maybe have an interest its a tough sport to get into.
I think in California you dont have this same problem with a lot more open areas, here you cant just find a field to make a turn track in now days , where when i was a kid we could
Even though we were treapassing.
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2/24/2019 11:39am
Make it 2 gang bangs instead of 3 and have a money race for the guys who didn’t make the night show.
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Love triple crown format but I would love to see 2 full length Motos and maybe throw in LCQ length "B" final in between the 1st and 2nd motos for the 22 guys that didn't make the cut. Gives them some time on the big stage too.
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2/24/2019 12:49pm
mx 219 wrote:
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to...
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to get injured.

If fhey are going to do more multuple main event races Maybe do half 7 events with 1 main, 7 events with 2 mains and 3 triple crowns so they can keep the name.
That's actually genius.

Keep the normal qual with heats and lcq, and the two mains.

Ama, you listening? ?
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mx 219 wrote:
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to...
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to get injured.

If fhey are going to do more multuple main event races Maybe do half 7 events with 1 main, 7 events with 2 mains and 3 triple crowns so they can keep the name.
Yeti365 wrote:
That's actually genius.

Keep the normal qual with heats and lcq, and the two mains.

Ama, you listening? ?
Is it the AMA that makes that decision?
I would have guessed it would be Feld
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2/24/2019 12:54pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2019 12:54pm
mx 219 wrote:
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to...
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to get injured.

If fhey are going to do more multuple main event races Maybe do half 7 events with 1 main, 7 events with 2 mains and 3 triple crowns so they can keep the name.
Double post, delete
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mx 219 wrote:
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to...
Would prefer just 2 mains like outdoorsover 3 main events. Hate to say it but each time they line up the guys are more likely to get injured.

If fhey are going to do more multuple main event races Maybe do half 7 events with 1 main, 7 events with 2 mains and 3 triple crowns so they can keep the name.
Yeti365 wrote:
That's actually genius.

Keep the normal qual with heats and lcq, and the two mains.

Ama, you listening? ?
Tarz483 wrote:
Is it the AMA that makes that decision?
I would have guessed it would be Feld
I think AMA/FIM are responsible for the race layout.

I'd love heats and lcqs to be topped by two mains as standard sop for next season.
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2/24/2019 2:03pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2019 2:04pm
It’s a mixed bag for me. The downside is the main is not long enough for the best rider to come from back and win.

The upside is such it’s a shorter race fitness is not as important as skill. We all know to compete and win your fitness has to be top. You have to put in insane amount of work and diet during the week to maintain 180 beats a minute for 20 minutes.

With triple crown talent has better chance of winning.

I like it how they have it where it’s just occasionally. Personally two 15 minute mains would probably be better like motocross.
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2/24/2019 2:26pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2019 4:14pm
level wrote:
It’s a mixed bag for me. The downside is the main is not long enough for the best rider to come from back and win. The...
It’s a mixed bag for me. The downside is the main is not long enough for the best rider to come from back and win.

The upside is such it’s a shorter race fitness is not as important as skill. We all know to compete and win your fitness has to be top. You have to put in insane amount of work and diet during the week to maintain 180 beats a minute for 20 minutes.

With triple crown talent has better chance of winning.

I like it how they have it where it’s just occasionally. Personally two 15 minute mains would probably be better like motocross.
Do you think the riders are fully recovered for mains 2 and 3?

I realize being at 180 for 20 minutes straight is one thing, but being at 180 for ~36 minutes in 12 minute intervals can't be easy either.

Any of the riders comment on this?
2/24/2019 3:06pm
yz133rider wrote:
Enough with the damn privateers not getting their time. This is about the best in the world. They can run supercross futures the next day if...
Enough with the damn privateers not getting their time. This is about the best in the world. They can run supercross futures the next day if they dont make the main show. People tune in to see eli tomac go from 11th to 1st not ricky bobby roll the whoops, roll the triple and miss the main by 14 spots
Without the privateers, the sport will not succeed, but apparently you don’t understand that.....

As far as the people going to watch the SX races, I’d bet they like the LCQ races as much as the mains. They like excitement, most are not even in-tune with the series.
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2/24/2019 3:08pm
There was about 22 min of action in the first 1:15 of broadcast. It’s a no for me!
2/24/2019 6:06pm
Yes, I prefer it, although, the privateers and their sponsors miss out on the TV exposure in the semis and LCQ.
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You want a format that allows a rider with a score of 15 to get a podium and the winner of the night show to cruise around in the third moto for the overall win? Not one 450 Triple crown has required the overall winner to win the final moto. Im all for more racing but I want meaningful racing and so far the final moto has been everything but meaningful.
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2/24/2019 9:23pm
Mit12 wrote:
You want a format that allows a rider with a score of 15 to get a podium and the winner of the night show to cruise...
You want a format that allows a rider with a score of 15 to get a podium and the winner of the night show to cruise around in the third moto for the overall win? Not one 450 Triple crown has required the overall winner to win the final moto. Im all for more racing but I want meaningful racing and so far the final moto has been everything but meaningful.
Yes. Because a heat is so meaningful difference between 1st 2nd or 4th gate pick, sooooo meaningful. Guys are really racing 100% battling to get 5th vs 6th Gate pick...

The triple crown is intense beginning to end. Standard format is 2.5hrs of gate pick qualifying before any real racing that matters.
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Lets be realistic here related to the LCQs and privateers... the commentary rarely ever covers the sponsors of the riders in qualifying position let alone those outside of those positions. IMO, I believe they should can the segment coverage of the top factory guys and possible the make up to mid segments and do a profile pic, short bio and sponsor coverage for those riders. No disrespect to the women covered as I genuinely like those segments, but believe it would be better for sponsor growth to cover the privateers and their sponsors.

My personal opinion is that the Triple Crown is a much better format. Heat races are pretty much meaningless and for the most part, the mains aren’t nearly as exciting in a standard format other than a few minor exceptions like the Webb/Roczen battle in Arlington. I’ve been to a Triple Crown in person and the racing and level of competition in each main/moto is next level excitement. Even though Forkner is running away with East SX... Triple Crown created better racing behind him than the standard format.

I’d like to see the series flipped... maybe 2 standard format on each coast and the rest all Triple Crown adding the Privateer Segment time to cover more sponsors to help grow the sport.
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