Monster girl injured at start of Baja 1000. Is Monster responsible?

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Edited Date/Time 11/26/2018 7:38am
Quick medical question on energy drink sponsered riders vs whatever you call the girls promoting:

Bj Baldwin just posted about one of “his” Monster girls getting smoked at the start of the race and being seriously injured. Also posted a gofundme link to help her.

So, question is, is or should Monster be on the hook for her medical bills, like a workers comp sort of thing? It happened in Mexico, so I’m sure that’s an issue and ultimately a technical way of screwing her..

How does this work or are these girls in same category as the athletes?
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rt987 11/22/2018 6:53am
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Man, I didn’t know monster athletes doubled as pimps.
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rt987 I hope for the sake of your well being you never have to deal with a serious injury. She is someone’s daughter, girlfriend or wife and a family is in a lot of pain. Get real or just stop.
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Potts 11/22/2018 7:17am
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Very sad situation. She was following a photographer's direction to "step back" and right as she was doing this the starter waived the Class 1 race vehicle to move forward. Right now we need to pray for a speedy recovery!! As far as liability goes I can only hope this young girl is compensated in a way make sure she recovers 100%.
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Brad460 11/22/2018 7:21am
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I would expect whoever employed her (Monster directly or likely some modeling agency) will be footing 100% of her medical bills as she was injured while working.

That being said, she will need money for her living expenses..which may be what the gofundme is for,,

I would also expect the race organizers will be on the hook also..aka lawsuit

Sounds like she had some serious head trauma..
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Potts 11/22/2018 7:31am
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Brad460 wrote:
I would expect whoever employed her (Monster directly or likely some modeling agency) will be footing 100% of her medical bills as she was injured while...
I would expect whoever employed her (Monster directly or likely some modeling agency) will be footing 100% of her medical bills as she was injured while working.

That being said, she will need money for her living expenses..which may be what the gofundme is for,,

I would also expect the race organizers will be on the hook also..aka lawsuit

Sounds like she had some serious head trauma..
Unfortunately these models are independent contractors and not employees and a typical model for hire contract is in place that just spells out when and where you need to be. Many times these don't even spell out how much you will be paid and you are verbally told how much! Also, many of these girls never sign a contract but only a "model release" for the pictures taken and a handler tells them when and where to show up for the gig. It looks glamorous from the outside but a tough business.

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yak651 11/22/2018 7:43am
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Brad460 wrote:
I would expect whoever employed her (Monster directly or likely some modeling agency) will be footing 100% of her medical bills as she was injured while...
I would expect whoever employed her (Monster directly or likely some modeling agency) will be footing 100% of her medical bills as she was injured while working.

That being said, she will need money for her living expenses..which may be what the gofundme is for,,

I would also expect the race organizers will be on the hook also..aka lawsuit

Sounds like she had some serious head trauma..
Potts wrote:
Unfortunately these models are independent contractors and not employees and a typical model for hire contract is in place that just spells out when and where...
Unfortunately these models are independent contractors and not employees and a typical model for hire contract is in place that just spells out when and where you need to be. Many times these don't even spell out how much you will be paid and you are verbally told how much! Also, many of these girls never sign a contract but only a "model release" for the pictures taken and a handler tells them when and where to show up for the gig. It looks glamorous from the outside but a tough business.

Sounds like the same situation all the racers are in. Maybe instead of calling for increase in purse money, should be calling for full insurance coverage with minimal deductible when participating in these events.
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Paul333 11/22/2018 7:45am
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Let’s hope she has something for insurance.

Let’s face it though IF they don’t help her they have to be very libal. I mean they hit her with a truck..
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kb228 11/22/2018 7:46am
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Idk if laws there are different... but in ohio if youre injured on the job workmans compensation pays for it. In a way your employer pays into workmans comp. so to me, yea monster pays for it.
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Brad460 wrote:
I would expect whoever employed her (Monster directly or likely some modeling agency) will be footing 100% of her medical bills as she was injured while...
I would expect whoever employed her (Monster directly or likely some modeling agency) will be footing 100% of her medical bills as she was injured while working.

That being said, she will need money for her living expenses..which may be what the gofundme is for,,

I would also expect the race organizers will be on the hook also..aka lawsuit

Sounds like she had some serious head trauma..
Potts wrote:
Unfortunately these models are independent contractors and not employees and a typical model for hire contract is in place that just spells out when and where...
Unfortunately these models are independent contractors and not employees and a typical model for hire contract is in place that just spells out when and where you need to be. Many times these don't even spell out how much you will be paid and you are verbally told how much! Also, many of these girls never sign a contract but only a "model release" for the pictures taken and a handler tells them when and where to show up for the gig. It looks glamorous from the outside but a tough business.

yak651 wrote:
Sounds like the same situation all the racers are in. Maybe instead of calling for increase in purse money, should be calling for full insurance coverage...
Sounds like the same situation all the racers are in. Maybe instead of calling for increase in purse money, should be calling for full insurance coverage with minimal deductible when participating in these events.
No riders union no leverage to call for anything.
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kage173 11/22/2018 8:15am
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Are they responsible? Yes
Will they be held responsible? No
Will they do the right thing? Maybe, but probably not if they're top athlete/spokesman is setting up a go fund me for her.
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crowe176 11/22/2018 8:24am
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Man, horrible situation all around. It’s one thing to be a rider knowing your life and well being are on the line everyday, but I just really hope she’s well taken care of and receiving the best care possible.
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Xeno 11/22/2018 8:47am
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SCORE has liability insurance in place for these scenarios. She would file a claim with that insurer and go from there.
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rt987 11/22/2018 8:53am
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rt987 I hope for the sake of your well being you never have to deal with a serious injury. She is someone’s daughter, girlfriend or wife...
rt987 I hope for the sake of your well being you never have to deal with a serious injury. She is someone’s daughter, girlfriend or wife and a family is in a lot of pain. Get real or just stop.
You misunderstood me. I mean no respect to her, or the accident. I of all people stand with what you describe as well. I direct that comment at Monster and the reference of “one of my monster girls.”
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jeffro503 11/22/2018 9:00am
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So what exactly happened? How did she get hurt?
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kb228 wrote:
Idk if laws there are different... but in ohio if youre injured on the job workmans compensation pays for it. In a way your employer pays...
Idk if laws there are different... but in ohio if youre injured on the job workmans compensation pays for it. In a way your employer pays into workmans comp. so to me, yea monster pays for it.
And I am sure her lawyer will ask for a settlement (as she should), especially if they can prove negligence

Speedy recovery
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jeffro503 wrote:
So what exactly happened? How did she get hurt?
I believe that, before the start, her leg got clipped by a tire and it caught her boot and just slung her all the way around and she got broken off pretty good. Face and all...
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Seems Mr. BJ admitted some responsibility himself, in what he said there...
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MediumRare 11/22/2018 9:26am
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Xeno wrote:
SCORE has liability insurance in place for these scenarios. She would file a claim with that insurer and go from there.
Most likely.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/fox5sandiego.com/2018/11/21/monster-ener…
The injuries sound horrible but the last paragraph of the article is very encouraging:

"Score International said they’re in touch with Magda Angel. They say she is recovering and apparently in good spirits and already planning to be at the races in March."

Hope she makes a full recovery.
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When did Vital become the place where accidents are litigated and blame is handed out?
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MPJC 11/22/2018 10:49am
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
When did Vital become the place where accidents are litigated and blame is handed out?
Yeah, that's what Facebook is for.
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lostboy819 11/22/2018 10:50am
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
When did Vital become the place where accidents are litigated and blame is handed out?
July of 2006 Wink
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GeorgiePorgie 11/22/2018 11:14am
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kb228 wrote:
Idk if laws there are different... but in ohio if youre injured on the job workmans compensation pays for it. In a way your employer pays...
Idk if laws there are different... but in ohio if youre injured on the job workmans compensation pays for it. In a way your employer pays into workmans comp. so to me, yea monster pays for it.
Sweetd31 wrote:
And I am sure her lawyer will ask for a settlement (as she should), especially if they can prove negligence

Speedy recovery
You’d have to lawyer up even if they were covering everything.
MediumRare 11/22/2018 11:21am
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kb228 wrote:
Idk if laws there are different... but in ohio if youre injured on the job workmans compensation pays for it. In a way your employer pays...
Idk if laws there are different... but in ohio if youre injured on the job workmans compensation pays for it. In a way your employer pays into workmans comp. so to me, yea monster pays for it.
Sweetd31 wrote:
And I am sure her lawyer will ask for a settlement (as she should), especially if they can prove negligence

Speedy recovery
GeorgiePorgie wrote:
You’d have to lawyer up even if they were covering everything.

GeorgiePorgie wrote: You’d have to lawyer up even if they were covering everything.
Why?
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
When did Vital become the place where accidents are litigated and blame is handed out?
'Merica!

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Xeno 11/22/2018 11:37am
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Here’s to a quick and complete recovery for this young lady!
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jeffro503 11/22/2018 11:55am
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Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/fox5sandiego.com/2018/11/21/monster-ener…
MPJC wrote:
The injuries sound horrible but the last paragraph of the article is very encouraging: "Score International said they’re in touch with Magda Angel. They say she...
The injuries sound horrible but the last paragraph of the article is very encouraging:

"Score International said they’re in touch with Magda Angel. They say she is recovering and apparently in good spirits and already planning to be at the races in March."

Hope she makes a full recovery.
That sounds like good news to me. Glad she'll be ok.
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Sweetd31 11/22/2018 12:26pm
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Sweetd31 wrote:
And I am sure her lawyer will ask for a settlement (as she should), especially if they can prove negligence

Speedy recovery
GeorgiePorgie wrote:
You’d have to lawyer up even if they were covering everything.
MediumRare wrote:

GeorgiePorgie wrote: You’d have to lawyer up even if they were covering everything.
Why?
Because insurance companies will always low ball first and settle somewhere in the middle.

Standard practice
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