Is Wilson playin it up 2 much?

Langhammx 11/7/2018 8:34pm
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FWYT wrote:
What I don't get is how some of these idiot drink makers will funnel money into some jump or wheelie boy clown when they could support...
What I don't get is how some of these idiot drink makers will funnel money into some jump or wheelie boy clown when they could support a guy who gets the social media views they want AND has a great story behind him AND is a competitive racer all wrapped in one.
You do realize that Rockstar is one of Deans sponsors, right ?
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See how this works? No longer are any of Wilson’s good achievements or good nature remembered. Just like that, Weege has created an image of Wilson...
See how this works? No longer are any of Wilson’s good achievements or good nature remembered. Just like that, Weege has created an image of Wilson as someone who only wants to play and have fun. It’s like saying “John is a fun guy, but he likes to drink.” Now all of the sudden John is a drunk, and nobody sees his good attributes. Weege had damaged Dean’s reputation. Dean is a nice guy and unfortunately, nice guys are victims sometimes of internet bullies like Jason Weigandt. It sucks, but there’s nothing that can be done to Weigandt.
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Weege is an internet bully? LMAO Woohoo
I would say that Weigandt use to be a major league fence sitter, possibly because he was never a rider or anyone connected to the sport and he felt like it wasn't his place to criticize riders, but now that he has been around a bit longer, Jason has been a lot more opinionated about riders, teams and the people who are running the sport. What do you think?
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Derek Harris 11/7/2018 10:36pm
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FWYT wrote:
What I don't get is how some of these idiot drink makers will funnel money into some jump or wheelie boy clown when they could support...
What I don't get is how some of these idiot drink makers will funnel money into some jump or wheelie boy clown when they could support a guy who gets the social media views they want AND has a great story behind him AND is a competitive racer all wrapped in one.
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Those 'idiot' drink makers are making a ton of money out of those wheelie boys who have a couple dollars in their pocket and aren't too...
Those 'idiot' drink makers are making a ton of money out of those wheelie boys who have a couple dollars in their pocket and aren't too interested in their health- thats why!

My primary sport these days is cycling. I noticed that there isn't any of the Monster/Rockstar/Red Bull sponsorship in that sport- I mentioned it whilst out riding with some buddies and they all replied "Because none of us will buy them, we all know they're bad for your health!" (I knew this BTW...)

So energy drink manufacturers aren't sponsoring cycling.
But They are sponsoring 'wheelie boys' and they are sponsoring Motocross..

What does that say about our sport??

Why does it seem an amateur Motocross 'athlete' will buy an energy drink, but an amateur cycling 'athlete' won't??
I cycle (or should say have) very seriously at times

And I laugh - when I hear this comment that cyclist dont drink energy drinks -

What do you call coke? Still in style at le tour
Whats in a gel - many are with loads of caffeine and of course sugar
or most sport drinks????
A glass of orange juice is PACKED full of sugar

Carbs break down into sugar - and im still a believer in the side of carbs for high end performance - not fats from my personal testing

While i dont think anyone should Think an energy drink is “good for you” the war on them by some is laughable

Sugar, mild carbonated water, b12, and some shit that probably does nothing but might do hardly anything

Any soda product - likely worse for you certainly not better.
And many of the “trendy” top dollar supplements people buy are glorified flavored sugar and electrolytes - nothing else

I love deanos videos and wish we had more inside access to all the racers

The future is online access - a good friend has said for YEARS every racer on race day should have their own channel and a POV camera you can click to live at any time on a multichannel main screen where the coverage plays in the background and you can add picture in picture screens of whatever racers you wish to follow


youtube could quite possibly be the future of tv - and those who get in early and figure it out will have tremendous value IMHO

More videos deano!
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burn1986 wrote:
See how this works? No longer are any of Wilson’s good achievements or good nature remembered. Just like that, Weege has created an image of Wilson...
See how this works? No longer are any of Wilson’s good achievements or good nature remembered. Just like that, Weege has created an image of Wilson as someone who only wants to play and have fun. It’s like saying “John is a fun guy, but he likes to drink.” Now all of the sudden John is a drunk, and nobody sees his good attributes. Weege had damaged Dean’s reputation. Dean is a nice guy and unfortunately, nice guys are victims sometimes of internet bullies like Jason Weigandt. It sucks, but there’s nothing that can be done to Weigandt.
731chopper wrote:
Weege is an internet bully? LMAO Woohoo
Dang It wrote:
I would say that Weigandt use to be a major league fence sitter, possibly because he was never a rider or anyone connected to the sport...
I would say that Weigandt use to be a major league fence sitter, possibly because he was never a rider or anyone connected to the sport and he felt like it wasn't his place to criticize riders, but now that he has been around a bit longer, Jason has been a lot more opinionated about riders, teams and the people who are running the sport. What do you think?
Can't put my finger on it but to me he is a dorky geek that is full of himself. I can't stand his voice or announcing style but that's just my opinion. I'm sure that job is not fun or easy. Imagine having to do commentary while watching the race on a TV monitor in a trailer. It would suck to attend the races but miss the actual live race that is going on outside.
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FWYT 11/8/2018 12:34am
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FWYT wrote:
What I don't get is how some of these idiot drink makers will funnel money into some jump or wheelie boy clown when they could support...
What I don't get is how some of these idiot drink makers will funnel money into some jump or wheelie boy clown when they could support a guy who gets the social media views they want AND has a great story behind him AND is a competitive racer all wrapped in one.
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You do realize that Rockstar is one of Deans sponsors, right ?
Yeah, and of course he plugs them in the piece.

I guess I expressed it wrong- I think I meant divert ALL funds from the clowns and give it to Dean. Laughing
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burn1986 11/8/2018 11:12am
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burn1986 11/8/2018 11:32am
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731chopper wrote:
Weege is an internet bully? LMAO Woohoo
Well, you know. . .

It irritates me that Weege took it upon himself to publish his thinly veiled warning to Dean Wilson that his funniness is not funny to the higher ups. And he used 450 words to issue a verbal warning to all riders (using Dean as an example) alleging that Dean Wilson is using social media to gain some favor from the higher ups or get a fan base to put pressure on the factories as an ulterior motive to get noticed instead of just getting results. Weege goes on to allege that Dean has somehow brought all this trial and tribulation on himself and alludes that his videos and funniness have placed Dean on an unfortunate path and have caused him to not have rides over the last 3 or so years. All this is based loosely on the grandpa vid that Dean did recently.

Weege has forgotten about Dean’s past. In fact he knows about it, but has chosen to omit the fact that Dean has had a multitude of injuries, and was literally kicked to the curve at a crucial time in his career, when Jeff Ward racing closed its doors with literally no notice in Nov 2012. Dean was making his transition to the 450 and was left with no time to put any kind of ride together, get sponsors, etc. leaving Dean playing catch up ever since (at an early age).
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731chopper 11/8/2018 11:48am
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Well, you know. . . It irritates me that Weege took it upon himself to publish his thinly veiled warning to Dean Wilson that his funniness...
Well, you know. . .

It irritates me that Weege took it upon himself to publish his thinly veiled warning to Dean Wilson that his funniness is not funny to the higher ups. And he used 450 words to issue a verbal warning to all riders (using Dean as an example) alleging that Dean Wilson is using social media to gain some favor from the higher ups or get a fan base to put pressure on the factories as an ulterior motive to get noticed instead of just getting results. Weege goes on to allege that Dean has somehow brought all this trial and tribulation on himself and alludes that his videos and funniness have placed Dean on an unfortunate path and have caused him to not have rides over the last 3 or so years. All this is based loosely on the grandpa vid that Dean did recently.

Weege has forgotten about Dean’s past. In fact he knows about it, but has chosen to omit the fact that Dean has had a multitude of injuries, and was literally kicked to the curve at a crucial time in his career, when Jeff Ward racing closed its doors with literally no notice in Nov 2012. Dean was making his transition to the 450 and was left with no time to put any kind of ride together, get sponsors, etc. leaving Dean playing catch up ever since (at an early age).
Weege wrote "Injuries have been his biggest issue" so he did not omit the fact he has had a multitude of injuries.

He also ended the piece with "Some only see Dean’s personality as a reflection of someone that doesn’t “want it” badly enough, if only because he doesn’t only show himself grinding on the daily. Fair? Nope. True? Yep." He isn't validating people's perception of Deano not wanting it badly enough, he says that is an unfair opinion to have but it is an opinion some people do have of him.

The point of the article was that people say things like "results don't matter as much anymore if somebody has a huge social media presence" but that isn't what Weege sees when it comes to riders actually getting factory rides. It still comes down to results or the perceived potential for results for those spots.
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thebleakness 11/8/2018 12:43pm
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Some car guys on YouTube make over 7k per million views so depending on all the factors that could have been a rather profitable video.
Some car guys on YouTube make over 7k per million views so depending on all the factors that could have been a rather profitable video.
I think the profit breakdown videos are the best videos that StreetSpeed puts out. Always cool to see actual numbers and proof. I know a few successful Youtubers and it's a good gig but they work their asses off to make it happen full time.

Car vlogging has been a popular trend for a while but it always surprised me that it wasn't as popular in moto. It's good to see it growing with Deano, AC, Haaker etc.
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braaap707 11/8/2018 1:05pm
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Wow just read that piece weege did on wilson. Honestly just lost lot of respect for him. Thats his opinion to say what he did but there was no reason to put a pro racer on blast for having some fun and trying to garner some attention for sponsors. Do you blame him ? I don't. Its refreshing to see someone actually have a personality.
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burn1986 11/8/2018 1:38pm
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Weege wrote "Injuries have been his biggest issue" so he did not omit the fact he has had a multitude of injuries. He also ended the...
Weege wrote "Injuries have been his biggest issue" so he did not omit the fact he has had a multitude of injuries.

He also ended the piece with "Some only see Dean’s personality as a reflection of someone that doesn’t “want it” badly enough, if only because he doesn’t only show himself grinding on the daily. Fair? Nope. True? Yep." He isn't validating people's perception of Deano not wanting it badly enough, he says that is an unfair opinion to have but it is an opinion some people do have of him.

The point of the article was that people say things like "results don't matter as much anymore if somebody has a huge social media presence" but that isn't what Weege sees when it comes to riders actually getting factory rides. It still comes down to results or the perceived potential for results for those spots.
Well, I disagree with you and he started off saying “once again Dean Wilson s without a ride.” He also blames him for not having a ride over the last several seasons. Which we know that he had a bad break from Jeff Ward racing back in November 2012 at no fault of his own. What Weege is doing is talking in half-truths. This whole article was completely unnecessary and only brought harm to Dean Wilson. Probably because Weege is arrogant and didn’t like the grandpa video that Dean did.
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731chopper 11/8/2018 1:41pm
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Well, I disagree with you and he started off saying “once again Dean Wilson s without a ride.” He also blames him for not having a...
Well, I disagree with you and he started off saying “once again Dean Wilson s without a ride.” He also blames him for not having a ride over the last several seasons. Which we know that he had a bad break from Jeff Ward racing back in November 2012 at no fault of his own. What Weege is doing is talking in half-truths. This whole article was completely unnecessary and only brought harm to Dean Wilson. Probably because Weege is arrogant and didn’t like the grandpa video that Dean did.
We can disagree, no harm in that.
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burn1986 11/8/2018 1:53pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Well, I disagree with you and he started off saying “once again Dean Wilson s without a ride.” He also blames him for not having a...
Well, I disagree with you and he started off saying “once again Dean Wilson s without a ride.” He also blames him for not having a ride over the last several seasons. Which we know that he had a bad break from Jeff Ward racing back in November 2012 at no fault of his own. What Weege is doing is talking in half-truths. This whole article was completely unnecessary and only brought harm to Dean Wilson. Probably because Weege is arrogant and didn’t like the grandpa video that Dean did.
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We can disagree, no harm in that.
All good, man Smile I just wish that he Would’ve supported Dean a little bit more since he went to the trouble to write an article on it. Iinstead he chose a different path, that he didn’t need to and didn’t do anybody any good.
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footglove 11/8/2018 1:55pm
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I can see where people are mad at Weege, but I really don't think it was meant as some major slight. Came across as just an observation on how sponsors see results vs internet presence to me.
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Dang It 11/8/2018 1:58pm
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burn1986 wrote:
Well, I disagree with you and he started off saying “once again Dean Wilson s without a ride.” He also blames him for not having a...
Well, I disagree with you and he started off saying “once again Dean Wilson s without a ride.” He also blames him for not having a ride over the last several seasons. Which we know that he had a bad break from Jeff Ward racing back in November 2012 at no fault of his own. What Weege is doing is talking in half-truths. This whole article was completely unnecessary and only brought harm to Dean Wilson. Probably because Weege is arrogant and didn’t like the grandpa video that Dean did.
It seems like some of these so called journalists are trying to stir the pot just for the sake of it. They have to produce content on a daily basis. These guys have said in the past that the players of stick and ball sports get so much more criticism and their journalists don't hold back. Is this the way it is going in Moto now, bashing riders when they are down?
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It’s an opinion piece. I don’t think a lot of people on here understand the type of journalism Racer X is putting out these days. I like most of the stuff JW and Matthes put out, but some of it is just for shock and awe in a slower part of the season. There’s a method to their madness, because if they just did rider interviews, Bike tests, and product reviews, they wouldn’t get the traffic they do by doing the shock and awe media. Because let’s be honest, no one outside of the regular moto fan is visiting Racer X or reading the articles. It’s a niche corner of the motorcycling industry, and more importantly, a rider at the end of his career, especially one like Wilson, isn’t really news.


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Jeremy Macbeth 11/8/2018 5:55pm
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Results, not social media savvy, secure factory rides. Always been that way and will remain as such.
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Fourth_Floor 11/8/2018 6:43pm
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Just read the article and it was a rather dumb write up, to be honest. No shit, factory teams aren't going to give you a ride if you aren't getting wins, podiums and staying off the injury list. Did anyone really think that a factory ride should be rewarded to someone based on their "social media popularity" that an article had to be written about it?

What Wilson is doing with the videos and whatnot (which are hilarious) looks to me that the guy knows he will be a privateer all season long and wants to have fun with it. He knows nobody is going to give him a factory ride due to his youtube views.
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