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Frank 10/15/2018 4:40am
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fanger wrote:
Mx and sx are raced on the same machines, saying they’re two different sports is ridiculous. Saying herlings is the fastest man on the planet when...
Mx and sx are raced on the same machines, saying they’re two different sports is ridiculous. Saying herlings is the fastest man on the planet when he has only ever competed in mx is ridiculous. Saying Tomac is the fastest man in the planet when he has his insane sx and mx races is ridiculous.

Saying anybody is the fastest on the planet without a series in doors and out doors that everyone competes in is ridiculous. One off races prove nothing.

Until we have a series that is fair and run over a season we’ll never know who is the fmop.
Wow. Endurocross and Freestyle are also done on the same machines. All are 1 sport according to you. Better get some logs and boulders for A1 and metal ramps for the triple back flips. Motocross and Supercross are not the same motorsport. How is this lost on people?
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fanger wrote:
Mx and sx are raced on the same machines, saying they’re two different sports is ridiculous. Saying herlings is the fastest man on the planet when...
Mx and sx are raced on the same machines, saying they’re two different sports is ridiculous. Saying herlings is the fastest man on the planet when he has only ever competed in mx is ridiculous. Saying Tomac is the fastest man in the planet when he has his insane sx and mx races is ridiculous.

Saying anybody is the fastest on the planet without a series in doors and out doors that everyone competes in is ridiculous. One off races prove nothing.

Until we have a series that is fair and run over a season we’ll never know who is the fmop.
RG1 wrote:
People called Stewart the FMOTP and he only raced outside of America about 4 times in his entire career. Tomac is the best America has and...
People called Stewart the FMOTP and he only raced outside of America about 4 times in his entire career. Tomac is the best America has and Herlings has beaten him 7 out of 8 times they've raced, all on US soil, and he's completely dominated in Europe. That's enough for me
fanger wrote:
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race...
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race a full series together.
That's never going to happen. It's crazy to me that people can't see that Herlings is better
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ATKpilot99 10/15/2018 4:45am
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People called Stewart the FMOTP and he only raced outside of America about 4 times in his entire career. Tomac is the best America has and...
People called Stewart the FMOTP and he only raced outside of America about 4 times in his entire career. Tomac is the best America has and Herlings has beaten him 7 out of 8 times they've raced, all on US soil, and he's completely dominated in Europe. That's enough for me
fanger wrote:
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race...
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race a full series together.
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That's never going to happen. It's crazy to me that people can't see that Herlings is better
Does that make you feel better about yourself ? Do you sleep better at night ?
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Ewan49 10/15/2018 4:46am
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People called Stewart the FMOTP and he only raced outside of America about 4 times in his entire career. Tomac is the best America has and...
People called Stewart the FMOTP and he only raced outside of America about 4 times in his entire career. Tomac is the best America has and Herlings has beaten him 7 out of 8 times they've raced, all on US soil, and he's completely dominated in Europe. That's enough for me
fanger wrote:
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race...
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race a full series together.
RG1 wrote:
That's never going to happen. It's crazy to me that people can't see that Herlings is better
Why do you take this to heart so much? Why do you care so much about Herlings being called the fastest man on the planet?
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RG1 10/15/2018 4:48am
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Why do you take this to heart so much? Why do you care so much about Herlings being called the fastest man on the planet?
You could ask why people are so adamant that he's not called FMOTP? It's just debate
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RG1 10/15/2018 4:50am
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fanger wrote:
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race...
Herlings is yet to race sx and tomac is yet to do a full Mxgp series. I’ll decide who is the better rider once they race a full series together.
RG1 wrote:
That's never going to happen. It's crazy to me that people can't see that Herlings is better
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Does that make you feel better about yourself ? Do you sleep better at night ?
Being right makes me feel better
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Ewan49 10/15/2018 4:51am
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Ewan49 wrote:
Why do you take this to heart so much? Why do you care so much about Herlings being called the fastest man on the planet?
RG1 wrote:
You could ask why people are so adamant that he's not called FMOTP? It's just debate
Yeah I could ask them that. But I asked you yeah? Maybe I will ask them next!
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RG1 10/15/2018 4:55am
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Ewan49 wrote:
Why do you take this to heart so much? Why do you care so much about Herlings being called the fastest man on the planet?
RG1 wrote:
You could ask why people are so adamant that he's not called FMOTP? It's just debate
Ewan49 wrote:
Yeah I could ask them that. But I asked you yeah? Maybe I will ask them next!
I think he deserves it, is that a problem?
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UpTiTe 10/15/2018 5:02am
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not butthurt I am Canadian Douchebag called me a retard IF You want to be named FMOTP you need to beat down the best in supey...
not butthurt

I am Canadian

Douchebag called me a retard

IF You want to be named FMOTP you need to beat down the best in supey and moto, Am I wrong?
Yes you are wrong.
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Ewan49 10/15/2018 5:02am
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RG1 wrote:
You could ask why people are so adamant that he's not called FMOTP? It's just debate
Ewan49 wrote:
Yeah I could ask them that. But I asked you yeah? Maybe I will ask them next!
RG1 wrote:
I think he deserves it, is that a problem?
Not a problem whatsoever. You think he deserves it, the others think he doesn't deserve it. The argument will go on and on and on and on!!! I was just curious why you care so much. It is my opinion that it is way more than just you thinking he deserves it with you but you're just not saying!
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keinz 10/15/2018 5:09am
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Does he ride a dirtbike?
Of course he does. And he is faster than 75% of Vital membersSmile


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RG1 10/15/2018 5:19am
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Ewan49 wrote:
Not a problem whatsoever. You think he deserves it, the others think he doesn't deserve it. The argument will go on and on and on and...
Not a problem whatsoever. You think he deserves it, the others think he doesn't deserve it. The argument will go on and on and on and on!!! I was just curious why you care so much. It is my opinion that it is way more than just you thinking he deserves it with you but you're just not saying!
Grinning you nailed it. I actually am Jeffrey Herlings, this is my vital alias. That's why I care so much

I'm just having a debate, why does anyone care about anything? Why do you care that I care? Grinning
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walleyeguy 10/15/2018 5:25am
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
He is the fmotp right now Just let it stop
Actually Coldenhoff is.
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Ewan49 10/15/2018 5:27am
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Not a problem whatsoever. You think he deserves it, the others think he doesn't deserve it. The argument will go on and on and on and...
Not a problem whatsoever. You think he deserves it, the others think he doesn't deserve it. The argument will go on and on and on and on!!! I was just curious why you care so much. It is my opinion that it is way more than just you thinking he deserves it with you but you're just not saying!
RG1 wrote:
:lol: you nailed it. I actually am Jeffrey Herlings, this is my vital alias. That's why I care so much I'm just having a debate, why...
Grinning you nailed it. I actually am Jeffrey Herlings, this is my vital alias. That's why I care so much

I'm just having a debate, why does anyone care about anything? Why do you care that I care? Grinning
I don't care that you care so much. Not one bit! I am curious...but definitely don't care. There is a difference.
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keinz 10/15/2018 5:32am
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I think if they both run MX+SX combined is not enough. They both have to run for presidency of US to be clear who is better
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ATKpilot99 10/15/2018 5:42am
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RG1 wrote:
That's never going to happen. It's crazy to me that people can't see that Herlings is better
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Does that make you feel better about yourself ? Do you sleep better at night ?
RG1 wrote:
Being right makes me feel better
Fair enough . I just think it's funny how you come riding in on your horse in every thread to defend Herlings' honor....or is it honour ?
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Finnish_Flash_62 10/15/2018 5:44am
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KB221 wrote:
not butthurt I am Canadian Douchebag called me a retard IF You want to be named FMOTP you need to beat down the best in supey...
not butthurt

I am Canadian

Douchebag called me a retard

IF You want to be named FMOTP you need to beat down the best in supey and moto, Am I wrong?
So you are saying there isn't a FMOTP? What is Vital going to argue about then?

Besides, I believe the only statement that has been made is Herlings being fastest OUTDOORS. Why does someone need to bring up sx to the discussion every other day?
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VonSmallhausen 10/15/2018 5:48am
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They both have to line up at Red Bull Knock-Out.
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RG1 10/15/2018 6:02am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Fair enough . I just think it's funny how you come riding in on your horse in every thread to defend Herlings' honor....or is it honour...
Fair enough . I just think it's funny how you come riding in on your horse in every thread to defend Herlings' honor....or is it honour ?
It's definitely honour Grinning
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Donovan759 10/15/2018 6:07am
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Wow... OP is currently having the meltdown of the year. Its a good time to be on Vital.
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Beeby 10/15/2018 6:17am
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Wait. When did Tomac win a supercross championship?
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Perhaps a European can chime in on this one but I have a legitimate question. I know, from living in the states, that the most hailed name regarding dirt bike racing is Ricky Carmichael. What about across the pond? Is Stefan Everts more talked about than RC in regards to legacy? Reason I ask, is if the legacy of Stefan Everts is more coveted by the Europeans than what RC has done then I see zero reason why Herlings would want to move over here to race. I would understand, 100%, his motivation to want to surpass what Everts has done..........BUT, if more Europeans know who RC is and view him as a more dominate and accomplished racer than Everts then I would think trying to go after that GOAT status would be more of a priority vs racking up MXGP titles and to do so, he would have to come here.

I wouldn't be surprised if we do see him abandon the all time MXGP quest to come here and try to clean house. Tomac has been pretty verbal in a few interviews since MXON basically calling them out for only riding one discipline. Agree with it or disagree but Herlings seems like a pretty fierce and emotionally charged competitor and I don't see those remarks sitting too well with him.

Eli also made the comment that his showing at Red Bud added 2 or 3 more years onto his career. Does that mean he wants to do a couple seasons of the GP's? Either way, I have the utmost respect for every single one of these guys and am enjoying the competitiveness of it all. It's a good time to be a moto fan.
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reynardfan1 10/15/2018 6:34am
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They should make it an award/title for each year with a voting system. Why not!? It would be fun and conversational

Another legacy stew left behind
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-MAVERICK- 10/15/2018 6:41am
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tempura wrote:
Since when has supercross been Motocross? And why does he need to dominate supercross to be named FMOTP at Motocross?
KB221 wrote:
How can you have 2 FMOTP on a dirtbike?
LOL. Are you for real?

That's like saying you can only have 1 fast guy racing cars.

"How can you have 2 FMOTP on a dirtbike?"

Easy. It's called different disciplines. People compete in different disciplines that involves riding a dirt bike.

Supercross, Motocross, GNCC, Enduro, etc. are all different forms/disciplines of racing that include riding a dirt bike.

Just like:

Rally, GT, NASCAR, F1, etc. are all different forms/disciplines of racing that includes driving a car.

Each discipline is different, meaning each one has their respective FMOTP. To truly be the fastest man on the planet on a dirt bike one would need to conquer all the different disciplines which is unrealistic.

How you or anyone else don't get that I don't know.
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Beeby 10/15/2018 6:59am
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I am still confused how people are saying you need to win the Supercross title to be this fastest man, yet referring to Tomac?
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tprice07 10/15/2018 7:10am
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It would be interesting to watch him race RBSR or MEC but beyond that I don't really care. If he dedicated himself to it like he does motocross I'm sure he would be competitive in a few years. He is a pretty unique rider. The way he weights the bike is something I've never seen before. You can tell he actually rides during the week beyond just the set motos that the US guys are doing. I think years ago James Stewart and Kevin Windham were like that. They seemed to be come one with the bike and they knew how it would react in any situation. People have gone too crazy with cross training. Road biking may get you in shape but it does not translate over to motocross beyond that.
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crf250pilot 10/15/2018 7:20am
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Fastest Motocrosser on the planet!! fixed for all the supercross whiners.
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PS- Such a stupid thread
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Forty 10/15/2018 7:57am
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Beeby wrote:
Wait. When did Tomac win a supercross championship?
This Jason Anderson runs the SX #1....

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