Does anyone train on mountain bikes?

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9/30/2018 2:39pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2018 2:44pm
Nighttrain wrote:
Just remember the right side handlebar lever on your dirt scooter has an entirely different function than the one on your MTB. The reminder can be...
Just remember the right side handlebar lever on your dirt scooter has an entirely different function than the one on your MTB. The reminder can be painful.
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Anybody who rides Moto and MTB and doesn't switch up the brakes deserves what's coming to them. It's not the right side you have to worry...
Anybody who rides Moto and MTB and doesn't switch up the brakes deserves what's coming to them. It's not the right side you have to worry about it' he left doing what the right is supposed to do. I warned a buddy once, he shrugged it off - 45 secs. later he was concussed and calling for a ride home.
ti473 wrote:
Never happened to me.
Don’t seem to have an issue with it just like most people. Only the weirdo English dudes switch their brakes to motorcycle style.
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Anybody who rides Moto and MTB and doesn't switch up the brakes deserves what's coming to them. It's not the right side you have to worry...
Anybody who rides Moto and MTB and doesn't switch up the brakes deserves what's coming to them. It's not the right side you have to worry about it' he left doing what the right is supposed to do. I warned a buddy once, he shrugged it off - 45 secs. later he was concussed and calling for a ride home.
ti473 wrote:
Never happened to me.
ob wrote:
Don’t seem to have an issue with it just like most people. Only the weirdo English dudes switch their brakes to motorcycle style.
Zero problems here, but some dudes struggle with the mind reset...one little pull and I remember which does which. Laughing
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9/30/2018 2:47pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2018 3:01pm
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Thanks for the input on the seat heights, guys! I have short legs so mine is always low and I still feel bent over to the...
Thanks for the input on the seat heights, guys! I have short legs so mine is always low and I still feel bent over to the bars so I always thought the position must be more awkward for tall guys with long legs.
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a lot of people go 1 frame size smaller as actually recommended and compensate that with a longer stem. smaller frame will save you some weight...
a lot of people go 1 frame size smaller as actually recommended and compensate that with a longer stem. smaller frame will save you some weight but mainly will be more agile. that's why some seat heights can look pretty extreme too. looks like oshow did that for instance. so it's not just about your leg lenght.


The current trend is larger frame for more reach and stability with a short 40-30mm stem. Only hardcore XC guys run long dropper stems these days. It’s really weird hitting jumps and drops with all your weight way low and out front. Unless you are XC only. Most guys are into longer travel bikes called “enduro” or “all mountain” bikes. That’s the fun stuff that is more moto style.
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9/30/2018 2:47pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2018 2:47pm
I love my MTB as well. I sold my 450 about 6 months ago, and haven't looked back. The ease and convenience of getting out for a ride, as well as the physical and mental benefits of riding my mountain bike have me hooked.


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ti473 wrote:
Never happened to me.
ob wrote:
Don’t seem to have an issue with it just like most people. Only the weirdo English dudes switch their brakes to motorcycle style.
ML512 wrote:
Zero problems here, but some dudes struggle with the mind reset...one little pull and I remember which does which. Laughing
Yeah you can totally feel what’s happening when you first hit the brakes.
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ob wrote:
The current trend is larger frame for more reach and stability with a short 40-30mm stem. Only hardcore XC guys run long dropper stems these days...
The current trend is larger frame for more reach and stability with a short 40-30mm stem. Only hardcore XC guys run long dropper stems these days. It’s really weird hitting jumps and drops with all your weight way low and out front. Unless you are XC only. Most guys are into longer travel bikes called “enduro” or “all mountain” bikes. That’s the fun stuff that is more moto style.
When you say "most guys" do you mean most guys in your area? Gotta remember that we're not all blessed with mountains like you folks out west. Most trails out here are best suited for an XC kind of bike. I had a stumpjumper with 160mm of travel but it started collecting dust once I got an epic. Only put it to good use once when I went to CO, so I sold it. If I ever move out that way I can see myself getting something beefier again. Shit I rode my rigid SS yesterday, but that was a little too much as it rattled my brains out in some of the rocky sections.
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ob wrote:
The current trend is larger frame for more reach and stability with a short 40-30mm stem. Only hardcore XC guys run long dropper stems these days...
The current trend is larger frame for more reach and stability with a short 40-30mm stem. Only hardcore XC guys run long dropper stems these days. It’s really weird hitting jumps and drops with all your weight way low and out front. Unless you are XC only. Most guys are into longer travel bikes called “enduro” or “all mountain” bikes. That’s the fun stuff that is more moto style.
ti473 wrote:
When you say "most guys" do you mean most guys in your area? Gotta remember that we're not all blessed with mountains like you folks out...
When you say "most guys" do you mean most guys in your area? Gotta remember that we're not all blessed with mountains like you folks out west. Most trails out here are best suited for an XC kind of bike. I had a stumpjumper with 160mm of travel but it started collecting dust once I got an epic. Only put it to good use once when I went to CO, so I sold it. If I ever move out that way I can see myself getting something beefier again. Shit I rode my rigid SS yesterday, but that was a little too much as it rattled my brains out in some of the rocky sections.
Yeah like I mentioned in another post, unless you live where it’s flat. I think there are more mountain bikers in the mountainous states as a whole. Here in Southern California and in the NW it’s a really big deal, and from what I see most people are into FS bikes with decent travel numbers in these kinds of areas. I we had flat buffed trails it would be different for sure.
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Zoom wrote:
I'm a long time MXer that took up MTB about a year ago. It has definitely helped my conditioning for MX. As a regional manager for...
I'm a long time MXer that took up MTB about a year ago. It has definitely helped my conditioning for MX. As a regional manager for Alta, I take my Alta demos and my MTB whenever I hit the rode. While I am at "work" I have been able to hit up trails in Northwest Arkansas, New Mexico, Missouri and all over Texas. There is not always a place to ride a dirt bike, but there is always MTB trails. They are everywhere! I follow Johnny O and Jeff Ward on Strava and they are animals! Have even seen Johnny O listed in front of Jeremy Martin on some sections.


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I’m in Nwa. Let me know when you’re passing through. We can spend a day on the trails. I also wouldn’t mind swinging a leg over...
I’m in Nwa. Let me know when you’re passing through. We can spend a day on the trails. I also wouldn’t mind swinging a leg over that Alta!
Will do. Should be within 30 days.
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Road bikes, boring as hell..sold mine earlier this year.
Since breaking my leg at the start of the year, I’m more interested in mtb. I may be selling one of my four strokes to upgrade mtb.
I’ve found mtb to be excellent for fitness, still get that adrenaline rush that we moto folks need, less cost involved, generally safer and less time consuming.
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ob wrote:
The current trend is larger frame for more reach and stability with a short 40-30mm stem. Only hardcore XC guys run long dropper stems these days...
The current trend is larger frame for more reach and stability with a short 40-30mm stem. Only hardcore XC guys run long dropper stems these days. It’s really weird hitting jumps and drops with all your weight way low and out front. Unless you are XC only. Most guys are into longer travel bikes called “enduro” or “all mountain” bikes. That’s the fun stuff that is more moto style.
ti473 wrote:
When you say "most guys" do you mean most guys in your area? Gotta remember that we're not all blessed with mountains like you folks out...
When you say "most guys" do you mean most guys in your area? Gotta remember that we're not all blessed with mountains like you folks out west. Most trails out here are best suited for an XC kind of bike. I had a stumpjumper with 160mm of travel but it started collecting dust once I got an epic. Only put it to good use once when I went to CO, so I sold it. If I ever move out that way I can see myself getting something beefier again. Shit I rode my rigid SS yesterday, but that was a little too much as it rattled my brains out in some of the rocky sections.
yep that's the point. I live in a fairly flat area. the smallest loop I go ride is about 55km (35 miles or so) and hardly have 300meters of elevation. thats why it isn't rare for me to go for 80 miles for a decent training ride. so it really depends what one has access to.

btw that also answers someones question about spandex short etc. 80 to 100 miles on a mtb takes quit some time and never would I ride that sort of time in a mtb short.
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No.

I ride MX to train for MTBing.

I never 'got' MTBs when people talked about them, but I could never get enough MX time as I was limited to 1-2x per week. Plus the driving, maintenance, entry fees, race gas, etc was just relentless. Plus I was recovering from an injury. So I decided to buy a MTB to get in shape.

I was not a natural on a MTB! (or course I wasn't on a dirt bike either). But I was addicted pretty quickly. The passion grew and now MX just seems too expensive, not really extreme enough (we do lots of drops and ledges in Austin), too dangerous, not offering enough actual ride time, and requiring too much windshield and garage time.

I will say this, when I get on a dirt bike now, even after being off for 6 months, I don't get any arm pump or tired at all and can ride nearly at my full pace right off the bat. The MTBs really keep you 'tuned up' so to speak.

One of the biggest limiting factors for me enjoying MX is that my greatest fear is that I would get severely injured on an MX bike (again) and I would not be able to MTB in to my old age as a result of my injuries. The thing about MTBing is that TONS of guys absolutely shred in to their 50s, and still ride very well in to their 70s. I want to do that. I will say that MX still assists me in that it gets my brain use to traveling much faster which NOW assists my MTBing.

Now, my wife has totally gotten in to it and she is quite the natural. I would not ever consider living in a city or retiring to a place that didn't have lots of MTBing. Retiring to the mountains for the win!

I ride enduro style bikes. Enduro in the MTB world means seriously chunky with jumps and stuff. It's like downhill light, but you have to pedal to the top so your bike has to work going uphill as well as downhill. I spend a LOT of money MTBing. I recently ordered a new Mondraker Foxy 29 frame, the frame alone cost me $4,150 but it's exactly what I wanted in a new bicycle. One fun thing about premium MTBs is that parts are interchangeable for the most part. So you can constantly swap forks, stems, wheels, shifting groups, brakes, etc to get your bike really dialed in.
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I'm interested in getting a mountain bike at some point. I've rented various bikes...29ers, 26 SS, 27.5+ SS, 27.5+ 1x11...and I liked them all, I would probably say the most fun I had was on the 27.5+ SS...all of these bikes being hard tails.

What bike would you guys recommend out in the Carolinas? I definitely like the 1x11 and the 27.5 felt more playful than a 29er. Looking for a do it all bike that I can ride around the neighborhood or pack up and take to the mountains for some really good trails.
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TJMX947 wrote:
I'm interested in getting a mountain bike at some point. I've rented various bikes...29ers, 26 SS, 27.5+ SS, 27.5+ 1x11...and I liked them all, I would...
I'm interested in getting a mountain bike at some point. I've rented various bikes...29ers, 26 SS, 27.5+ SS, 27.5+ 1x11...and I liked them all, I would probably say the most fun I had was on the 27.5+ SS...all of these bikes being hard tails.

What bike would you guys recommend out in the Carolinas? I definitely like the 1x11 and the 27.5 felt more playful than a 29er. Looking for a do it all bike that I can ride around the neighborhood or pack up and take to the mountains for some really good trails.
Trek fuel or remedy are my vote. A lot of bike for a great value.
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TJMX947 wrote:
I'm interested in getting a mountain bike at some point. I've rented various bikes...29ers, 26 SS, 27.5+ SS, 27.5+ 1x11...and I liked them all, I would...
I'm interested in getting a mountain bike at some point. I've rented various bikes...29ers, 26 SS, 27.5+ SS, 27.5+ 1x11...and I liked them all, I would probably say the most fun I had was on the 27.5+ SS...all of these bikes being hard tails.

What bike would you guys recommend out in the Carolinas? I definitely like the 1x11 and the 27.5 felt more playful than a 29er. Looking for a do it all bike that I can ride around the neighborhood or pack up and take to the mountains for some really good trails.
Kona Process 134 is a great all around machine for around 3K.

I ride mine around Pittsburgh which would be similar to the Carolinas.

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No. I ride MX to train for MTBing. I never 'got' MTBs when people talked about them, but I could never get enough MX time as...
No.

I ride MX to train for MTBing.

I never 'got' MTBs when people talked about them, but I could never get enough MX time as I was limited to 1-2x per week. Plus the driving, maintenance, entry fees, race gas, etc was just relentless. Plus I was recovering from an injury. So I decided to buy a MTB to get in shape.

I was not a natural on a MTB! (or course I wasn't on a dirt bike either). But I was addicted pretty quickly. The passion grew and now MX just seems too expensive, not really extreme enough (we do lots of drops and ledges in Austin), too dangerous, not offering enough actual ride time, and requiring too much windshield and garage time.

I will say this, when I get on a dirt bike now, even after being off for 6 months, I don't get any arm pump or tired at all and can ride nearly at my full pace right off the bat. The MTBs really keep you 'tuned up' so to speak.

One of the biggest limiting factors for me enjoying MX is that my greatest fear is that I would get severely injured on an MX bike (again) and I would not be able to MTB in to my old age as a result of my injuries. The thing about MTBing is that TONS of guys absolutely shred in to their 50s, and still ride very well in to their 70s. I want to do that. I will say that MX still assists me in that it gets my brain use to traveling much faster which NOW assists my MTBing.

Now, my wife has totally gotten in to it and she is quite the natural. I would not ever consider living in a city or retiring to a place that didn't have lots of MTBing. Retiring to the mountains for the win!

I ride enduro style bikes. Enduro in the MTB world means seriously chunky with jumps and stuff. It's like downhill light, but you have to pedal to the top so your bike has to work going uphill as well as downhill. I spend a LOT of money MTBing. I recently ordered a new Mondraker Foxy 29 frame, the frame alone cost me $4,150 but it's exactly what I wanted in a new bicycle. One fun thing about premium MTBs is that parts are interchangeable for the most part. So you can constantly swap forks, stems, wheels, shifting groups, brakes, etc to get your bike really dialed in.
You hit the nail on the head regarding the benefits of mountain biking compared to moto regarding economic utility and cost/benefit analysis.

One thing I noticed as well among the MTB crowd is that it isn't a big dick-stretching contest like a motocross race or track day. Everyone just wants to have a good time and be friendly. It's not all about hanging it out to one-up the other riders via cross-jumping, stuffing, look-overs and such.

I'm not that old (35), but 99 times out of 100 I will grab the Kona 134 and walk past the YZ250. It's just so darned convenient and FREE to ride the trails down the road compared to driving 1.5 hours each way and spending $30 to ride the local practice spot. And besides the occasional thorn and close-call, I don't feel I'm taking any huge risks out there.

If moto continues to price Generations Y and Z out of the sport, MTB will only grow in coming decades.
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Take my word for it, your MTB will hurt you too. I broke my hip after a 30+ mph pedal strike that sent me flying 15 feet down the hill and landed right on my hip. Also had 2 pile driver type crashes last summer that had me thanking god that I could move my limbs. My best advice is to buy one of those emergency beacon type devices, just in case.

And of course you can easily spend as much on a MTB as you can on a Moto.
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Take my word for it, your MTB will hurt you too. I broke my hip after a 30+ mph pedal strike that sent me flying 15...
Take my word for it, your MTB will hurt you too. I broke my hip after a 30+ mph pedal strike that sent me flying 15 feet down the hill and landed right on my hip. Also had 2 pile driver type crashes last summer that had me thanking god that I could move my limbs. My best advice is to buy one of those emergency beacon type devices, just in case.

And of course you can easily spend as much on a MTB as you can on a Moto.
Ouch! Keep those pedals up folks! I like the fact that you can have a challenging and fun time on a mountain bike well staying under 30 miles an hour. Especially here in Colorado with all our Rocky technical trails.

Of course when I go to the bike park the pads go on an all bets go out the window
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If you want a mtn bike that is going to do a bit of everything then go for a dual suspension XC model. Make sure you...
If you want a mtn bike that is going to do a bit of everything then go for a dual suspension XC model. Make sure you go with 29" wheels. Some sales staff will try and put you on a 27.5 but insist on a 29'er. The only advantage a 27.5 has over a 29 is in really tight switchback stuff but anybody with a bit of skill on the bike can easily get around that and the 29'er kills the 27.5 everywhere else, especially over bigger rocks and tree roots etc. If you go mid range pricewise then the bike will last you for however long you want it to and without the need to upgrade. I ride 1x11 and cannot rave on enough about it. I used 1x11 on my bike when I rode The Continental Divide (from Banff Canada to Mexican border in New Mexico if you aren't familiar with that ride) and I never found the 1x11 lacking anywhere
4 out of the top 5 ranked Enduro World Series riders including Sam Hill (the champ) would disagree with you.

27.5 all day long.
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go check out a xc mountain bike race. you will be amazed at how slow and out of shape you are compared to them. theres local guys in their late 50's just like OSHOW, that would make the top moto guys look out of shape for cycling at least. generally they are 1.5 to 2hrs long. 40 plus expert class is one of the fastest classes around here.
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Nobody here rides a KTM mtb? Looks like you can pick up their flagship model for a mere $9600. And not nearly the amount of moving parts as those overpriced fourstrokes they sell. www.ktmbikes.com
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Nighttrain wrote:
Just remember the right side handlebar lever on your dirt scooter has an entirely different function than the one on your MTB. The reminder can be...
Just remember the right side handlebar lever on your dirt scooter has an entirely different function than the one on your MTB. The reminder can be painful.
Weird, mine all work the same as my motos.

BTW, if in the US, if you buy brakes from overseas (chain reaction for example) you can get them front brake on the right standard, saves switching and rebleeding them.
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Moto style brakes all the way.

I ride an older 29er stumpjumper with 120mm travel. I love the bike and feel like it's a great do it all bike for all the roots and rocks I ride and it also has enough travel to get a little rowdy when the opportunity presents itself.
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Hman144 wrote:
Nobody here rides a KTM mtb? Looks like you can pick up their flagship model for a mere $9600. And not nearly the amount of moving...
Nobody here rides a KTM mtb? Looks like you can pick up their flagship model for a mere $9600. And not nearly the amount of moving parts as those overpriced fourstrokes they sell. www.ktmbikes.com
It was explained to me a while back that the KTM bicycle name was sold off when KTM had no intention of doing bikes. Apparently, they've rethought that, and you may see bikes in the future, but under a different name. Ready2Race?
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I do but here in Ohio it’s flat lol. Still try to get out and do 10-15 miles a few times a week when I’ve got...
I do but here in Ohio it’s flat lol. Still try to get out and do 10-15 miles a few times a week when I’ve got time


You don't need big hills to have fun...or get in some great training. I've ridden some really fun stuff in...

Medina https://www.strava.com/activities/1067395676

Columbus https://www.strava.com/activities/1035460292

Birdsall, MI https://www.strava.com/activities/1064943654
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You don't need big hills to have fun...or get in some great training. I've ridden some really fun stuff in... Medina https://www.strava.com/activities/1067395676 Columbus https://www.strava.com/activities/1035460292 Birdsall, MI...
You don't need big hills to have fun...or get in some great training. I've ridden some really fun stuff in...

Medina https://www.strava.com/activities/1067395676

Columbus https://www.strava.com/activities/1035460292

Birdsall, MI https://www.strava.com/activities/1064943654
I rode Medina trails yesterday, really nice stuff for a town park. Eric lives out in Western Ohio which may as well be called East Indiana, not much more than flat farmland.
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go check out a xc mountain bike race. you will be amazed at how slow and out of shape you are compared to them. theres local...
go check out a xc mountain bike race. you will be amazed at how slow and out of shape you are compared to them. theres local guys in their late 50's just like OSHOW, that would make the top moto guys look out of shape for cycling at least. generally they are 1.5 to 2hrs long. 40 plus expert class is one of the fastest classes around here.
I look at the results all the time from our local mountain bike series in Charlotte NC and you'll see Nascar drivers and pro mx guys getting beat by local joes frequently.
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My 2 cents...
Cycling is sport specific, that being said, you can be in great moto shape and get hammered by a cycling guy. Cycling fitness comes out of XC riding/racing, not enduro or all mountain riding.
I raced XC full on for 6 years, I experienced the fitness benefits for all of the work and it was a shitload of work. I just started racing enduro and can tell you firsthand it is a fraction of the fitness it takes to be a solid XC guys.
If you wanna make gains, you gotta be willing to suffer a lot! Riding for fun or just hitting rad trails will only fulfill the stoke factor. #pain-cave
Last weekend up in Mammoth as an enduro guy.
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7eleven wrote:
My 2 cents... Cycling is sport specific, that being said, you can be in great moto shape and get hammered by a cycling guy. Cycling fitness...
My 2 cents...
Cycling is sport specific, that being said, you can be in great moto shape and get hammered by a cycling guy. Cycling fitness comes out of XC riding/racing, not enduro or all mountain riding.
I raced XC full on for 6 years, I experienced the fitness benefits for all of the work and it was a shitload of work. I just started racing enduro and can tell you firsthand it is a fraction of the fitness it takes to be a solid XC guys.
If you wanna make gains, you gotta be willing to suffer a lot! Riding for fun or just hitting rad trails will only fulfill the stoke factor. #pain-cave
Last weekend up in Mammoth as an enduro guy.
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Fitness is all relative though. For the casual weekend moto guy who does no exercise during the week, riding enduro 3 times a week is going to make a difference to his moto fitness come the weekend.

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Suns_PSD wrote:
No. I ride MX to train for MTBing. I never 'got' MTBs when people talked about them, but I could never get enough MX time as...
No.

I ride MX to train for MTBing.

I never 'got' MTBs when people talked about them, but I could never get enough MX time as I was limited to 1-2x per week. Plus the driving, maintenance, entry fees, race gas, etc was just relentless. Plus I was recovering from an injury. So I decided to buy a MTB to get in shape.

I was not a natural on a MTB! (or course I wasn't on a dirt bike either). But I was addicted pretty quickly. The passion grew and now MX just seems too expensive, not really extreme enough (we do lots of drops and ledges in Austin), too dangerous, not offering enough actual ride time, and requiring too much windshield and garage time.

I will say this, when I get on a dirt bike now, even after being off for 6 months, I don't get any arm pump or tired at all and can ride nearly at my full pace right off the bat. The MTBs really keep you 'tuned up' so to speak.

One of the biggest limiting factors for me enjoying MX is that my greatest fear is that I would get severely injured on an MX bike (again) and I would not be able to MTB in to my old age as a result of my injuries. The thing about MTBing is that TONS of guys absolutely shred in to their 50s, and still ride very well in to their 70s. I want to do that. I will say that MX still assists me in that it gets my brain use to traveling much faster which NOW assists my MTBing.

Now, my wife has totally gotten in to it and she is quite the natural. I would not ever consider living in a city or retiring to a place that didn't have lots of MTBing. Retiring to the mountains for the win!

I ride enduro style bikes. Enduro in the MTB world means seriously chunky with jumps and stuff. It's like downhill light, but you have to pedal to the top so your bike has to work going uphill as well as downhill. I spend a LOT of money MTBing. I recently ordered a new Mondraker Foxy 29 frame, the frame alone cost me $4,150 but it's exactly what I wanted in a new bicycle. One fun thing about premium MTBs is that parts are interchangeable for the most part. So you can constantly swap forks, stems, wheels, shifting groups, brakes, etc to get your bike really dialed in.
According to this I think your answer is, yes...

I will say this, when I get on a dirt bike now, even after being off for 6 months, I don't get any arm pump or tired at all and can ride nearly at my full pace right off the bat. The MTBs really keep you 'tuned up' so to speak.
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10/1/2018 12:49pm
the Bike park i frequent is quite "moto" good times for all..


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