mx vs atv all out

PTG APEX
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9/17/2018 11:13am
Lastander wrote:
Unfortunately i dont think we can look at any of the goat farm SX times. Saw that xStik had bumped me down with almost a second...
Unfortunately i dont think we can look at any of the goat farm SX times.
Saw that xStik had bumped me down with almost a second at the upper SX i think.
My lap was actually pretty good but i couldnt figure out how to go a second faster, so i started to ”cheat”...
Started of with skipping half a rythm section by just riding outside of it, and then skipping 75% of the whoop section...
Without tuffblocks the maps are useless for time attack racing, im not saying that Stik was cheating but if he wasnt that probably was the best lap ever in the history of mankind
Rs444 wrote:
I play enough without stick to know that he like bill have perfected the clutch/shift glitch :). Bill's riding consistant 2.01 on the national track now...
I play enough without stick to know that he like bill have perfected the clutch/shift glitch Smile . Bill's riding consistant 2.01 on the national track now ^^
I've tried to replicate the glitch mentioned here a few times, I can't seem to make it work. It feels pretty unrealistic anyway. I prefer to play "sim" style as much as I can. I really don't even like how the clutch boost works, but it is necessary to be competitive. The idea of shifting way down and back up to get some kind of super boost just seems lame to me. To each their own I guess.
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Sophisticate is running 1.59 aswell, i have no clue how to get under 2.03, it seems impossible the way i play, tried auto gearing but then my bike didnt even clear the jumps
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9/17/2018 11:50am
Lastander wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/17/287973/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Sophisticate is running 1.59 aswell, i have no clue how to get under 2.03, it seems impossible the way i play, tried auto gearing but...



Sophisticate is running 1.59 aswell, i have no clue how to get under 2.03, it seems impossible the way i play, tried auto gearing but then my bike didnt even clear the jumps
Did you take that picture with a baked potato or a raw potato?
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Lastander
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9/17/2018 11:53am
Lastander wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/17/287973/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Sophisticate is running 1.59 aswell, i have no clue how to get under 2.03, it seems impossible the way i play, tried auto gearing but...



Sophisticate is running 1.59 aswell, i have no clue how to get under 2.03, it seems impossible the way i play, tried auto gearing but then my bike didnt even clear the jumps
Donovan759 wrote:
Did you take that picture with a baked potato or a raw potato?
iPhone 7 on a brand new 55” HD tv... thats the quality that i get, the graphics really blows for me as you can see that you can barely read the text

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9/17/2018 12:05pm
Lastander wrote:
iPhone 7 on a brand new 55” HD tv... thats the quality that i get, the graphics really blows for me as you can see that...
iPhone 7 on a brand new 55” HD tv... thats the quality that i get, the graphics really blows for me as you can see that you can barely read the text
lol. I'm just messing with you man.
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Donovan759 wrote:
lol. I'm just messing with you man.
Yeah i know but still, my resolution is shit, how is your graphics?
9/17/2018 12:11pm
Lastander wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/09/17/287973/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Sophisticate is running 1.59 aswell, i have no clue how to get under 2.03, it seems impossible the way i play, tried auto gearing but...



Sophisticate is running 1.59 aswell, i have no clue how to get under 2.03, it seems impossible the way i play, tried auto gearing but then my bike didnt even clear the jumps
Donovan759 wrote:
Did you take that picture with a baked potato or a raw potato?
Lastander wrote:
iPhone 7 on a brand new 55” HD tv... thats the quality that i get, the graphics really blows for me as you can see that...
iPhone 7 on a brand new 55” HD tv... thats the quality that i get, the graphics really blows for me as you can see that you can barely read the text
Man, that's frustrating! How are other games and everything else?
Sweetd31
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9/17/2018 12:12pm
PTG APEX wrote:
I've tried to replicate the glitch mentioned here a few times, I can't seem to make it work. It feels pretty unrealistic anyway. I prefer to...
I've tried to replicate the glitch mentioned here a few times, I can't seem to make it work. It feels pretty unrealistic anyway. I prefer to play "sim" style as much as I can. I really don't even like how the clutch boost works, but it is necessary to be competitive. The idea of shifting way down and back up to get some kind of super boost just seems lame to me. To each their own I guess.
Not necessary, just much harder

I will add you when I get home, we played quite a few matches together
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Donovan759
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9/17/2018 12:13pm
Donovan759 wrote:
lol. I'm just messing with you man.
Lastander wrote:
Yeah i know but still, my resolution is shit, how is your graphics?
I sit kinda far away from my screen when I play moto games and its a 56" or something. I'll have to take a closer look and let you know. I think its a sharper image than that and its on an older plasma.
9/17/2018 12:56pm
1.59 dafuq?? I thought 2.05 was attainable but damn that's one hot af lap.
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9/18/2018 3:58am
I was away all weekend so I finally sat down last night and ran some laps at the goat farm. What an awesome DLC.
I only ran about 10 laps on the moto track, But i don't see myself coming anywhere close to 1.59 anytime soon. lol
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9/18/2018 10:22am
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What a game! Just bought it 2 days ago and I love it! I hope its okay to link, but I seem to be the only...
What a game! Just bought it 2 days ago and I love it!

I hope its okay to link, but I seem to be the only one streaming this game on twitch.
https://www.twitch.tv/dirtydne

I would love for you guys to come in and give me some tips, I need it!
Sweetd31 wrote:
Xbox, PS4, or PC?
PC
I will probably stream later.

I have noticed though that its really hard to find games online, is none playing it on PC?
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9/18/2018 10:51am
Dirtydane wrote:
PC
I will probably stream later.

I have noticed though that its really hard to find games online, is none playing it on PC?
It's predominantly an Xbox game for the time being, the community is spot on. 1-2 trolls for every 15-20 nice person. On average our lobbies are anywhere from 8-12 solid players. Occasionally we will get 16 stacked riders, pretty neat to pull a top 5 when that happens.
9/18/2018 4:50pm
PS4 online is good too especially on a friday or saturday night.
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oilman400
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9/18/2018 6:06pm
Is a 2:23 a good time? Asking for a friend Cool
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akmx17
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9/18/2018 6:09pm
How the fuck are you guys so fast, My best at goat farm national is a 2:15
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logan_140
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9/18/2018 6:26pm
Best I’ve ran is a 2:12 so far. Haven’t put much time in.
9/18/2018 7:09pm
So far my best was a 2:07. I’ve never made a perfect lap, I’ve thought I was gonna get a new fast lap then I’ll make a mistake. The track is really good , line choice is really important more so than any other mx game I’ve played. They got the physics and track deformation down.

As good as the game is it is lacking severely in spots as well. The offline mode is bad it’s way behind what Milestone has. Rainbow needs to fix the ai even if it takes several patches of small improvements. A competitive championship mode would be so nice and as good as the rest of the game is it’s a shame how bad the ai is. It should be possible to pick an ai difficulty that is competitive. There should be a setting that’s similar to C class, B class, A class, Pro and maybe extreme.

Braap is awesome and a let down at the same time. It should be set up so you can only use them if you want since they are the only ai on the oem bikes we bought. Any pro can be designed so the pros in the game are pretty much irrelevant on their generic bikes. Braap needs more settings also like consistency. A championship is only good if the same few guys are podium or top 5 guys, it’s so all over the place now and with how slow they are anyhow the championship mode isn’t a fun option as is.

I hope Rainbow reads through this forum and takes these ideas. If they can’t get this all implemented into All Out they need to in the next game a year or two from now hopefully. If they continue to have bad ai and a bad championship mode because of it in the next one that will not go over well. I hope they fix it in this one though I understand it’s a small team but all this dlc would be way more fun if you had someone to race other than your ghost when your internet is bad and you play offline. Not everyone has access to good internet where they live. Even the guys who play online who can’t get in a race with similar skilled players would enjoy a race against the ai if they could pick a difficulty level that fit them.
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9/18/2018 7:10pm
Fastest Lap that I have run 159.02 Goat Farm National
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MW19
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9/18/2018 7:15pm
I shed 2 seconds off my lap time there by switching to first person. Which is weird because I prefer 3rd
9/18/2018 7:55pm Edited Date/Time 9/18/2018 8:18pm
My game just totally crashed 2 times within 10 minutes of each other doing time trial on the goat farm. Keep getting code CE-34878-0

Edit: Now 3 times and it didnt save my new record
9/19/2018 4:04am
My game just totally crashed 2 times within 10 minutes of each other doing time trial on the goat farm. Keep getting code CE-34878-0 Edit: Now...
My game just totally crashed 2 times within 10 minutes of each other doing time trial on the goat farm. Keep getting code CE-34878-0

Edit: Now 3 times and it didnt save my new record
I messaged them about the same exact thing. It seems like random times it just crashes, I guess I’m not alone. If you are running time trials and you get a new fast lap quit. When you quit I’ve found it saves the lap but if you keep doing laps and it crashes you’ll loose the new fast lap. Hope they figure it out.
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9/19/2018 4:53am Edited Date/Time 9/19/2018 5:05am
So far my best was a 2:07. I’ve never made a perfect lap, I’ve thought I was gonna get a new fast lap then I’ll make...
So far my best was a 2:07. I’ve never made a perfect lap, I’ve thought I was gonna get a new fast lap then I’ll make a mistake. The track is really good , line choice is really important more so than any other mx game I’ve played. They got the physics and track deformation down.

As good as the game is it is lacking severely in spots as well. The offline mode is bad it’s way behind what Milestone has. Rainbow needs to fix the ai even if it takes several patches of small improvements. A competitive championship mode would be so nice and as good as the rest of the game is it’s a shame how bad the ai is. It should be possible to pick an ai difficulty that is competitive. There should be a setting that’s similar to C class, B class, A class, Pro and maybe extreme.

Braap is awesome and a let down at the same time. It should be set up so you can only use them if you want since they are the only ai on the oem bikes we bought. Any pro can be designed so the pros in the game are pretty much irrelevant on their generic bikes. Braap needs more settings also like consistency. A championship is only good if the same few guys are podium or top 5 guys, it’s so all over the place now and with how slow they are anyhow the championship mode isn’t a fun option as is.

I hope Rainbow reads through this forum and takes these ideas. If they can’t get this all implemented into All Out they need to in the next game a year or two from now hopefully. If they continue to have bad ai and a bad championship mode because of it in the next one that will not go over well. I hope they fix it in this one though I understand it’s a small team but all this dlc would be way more fun if you had someone to race other than your ghost when your internet is bad and you play offline. Not everyone has access to good internet where they live. Even the guys who play online who can’t get in a race with similar skilled players would enjoy a race against the ai if they could pick a difficulty level that fit them.
Amen. I've preached this for years. And especially true on BRAAP and you should be able to use your creations and have settings that matter like consistency. I mean really, who came up with the 3 attributes you are given to tune the BRAAP AI now? Not much depth or realism there at all.

Fact is that offline play is crucial. If it wasn't, mega companies who make NBA2K and MLB The SHow wouldn't invest so much in them. This game has so much potential but it is absolute meh unless you're either online or just ghost racing.

BRAAP...be able to choose anyone you create anytime, be able to seriously tune them not just showboat attribute and have the AI's riding be not only more logical and better but also make some sort of sense so that your podium and season results actually make sense. Nobody wants a game where Brady has worse numbers than the third stringer for the Redskins and that is the kind of results you are very likely to get in All Out. This is where Milestone crushes Nordic. However, Nordic has a great engine but they MUST put an emphasis on this aspect of the game.

Honestly, as you said, if they would do BRAAP correctly there is zero reason to go to the trouble to have Pros in the game. Because if we buy OEM bikes we want to actually see them on the track and not just on us (which you can't really even see). So let us be able create them in BRAAP and then use them whenever we want but also they must have better tuning attributes that actually matter. Seriously, to the team, no one wants to play a 16 race Supercross season with only Baggett, Webb and Enticknap in it then mainly privateers. I just do not understand that logic whatsoever. Either have everyone like Milestone so your lineup makes since (minus ET3, JB19) or just let us create all the real people. It's not hard.

Attributes should be like ratings based like other sports games.

Speed
Intelligence
Consistency
Endurance
Line choice
Starts
Prone to crashing
Equipment

Those are just a few of many attributes that could be used. Make the AI or BRAAP creations ratings based and they should react and perform accordingly. As it stands in this franchise, barring JS7 in Alive, every rider is the same and it's just a gear/bike skin difference. That is illogical.
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Rs444
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9/19/2018 7:08am
Down to 2.04.89 on the old 250f now Smile
JN137
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9/19/2018 10:23am
What do you guys like better - Stew Compound or Goat farm?

125 pages so sorry if someone already asked lol
Donovan759
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9/19/2018 10:28am
JN137 wrote:
What do you guys like better - Stew Compound or Goat farm?

125 pages so sorry if someone already asked lol
I like the goat farm better. Something about the way the moto track feels. It flows well and makes me feel like i'm riding in real life minus the exhaustion factor and exploding adrenaline rush.
Sweetd31
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9/19/2018 10:33am
My game just totally crashed 2 times within 10 minutes of each other doing time trial on the goat farm. Keep getting code CE-34878-0 Edit: Now...
My game just totally crashed 2 times within 10 minutes of each other doing time trial on the goat farm. Keep getting code CE-34878-0

Edit: Now 3 times and it didnt save my new record
Ditto, no error code, but yeah, when I hit a new record, I immediately exit back to free ride
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9/19/2018 10:49am
Per the "other thread" (MES), an AMA national game is in the works, and riders were getting scanned and tagging #mxvsatvallout

- Again, smoking guns
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Donovan759
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9/19/2018 11:06am
Sweetd31 wrote:
Per the "other thread" (MES), an AMA national game is in the works, and riders were getting scanned and tagging #mxvsatvallout

- Again, smoking guns
To be more accurate, greenmx5 said
"US national tracks are in the works... That's all I'll say."


Also for the sake of accuracy, tprice07 said the following (relevant portion of his full post):

"Is it just me or does it seem like Milestone kind of duped the riders into getting scanned and signing releases?
They made it seem like Feld was requiring this and it was just another part of the promo package the put together for TV. Some riders even tagged Rainbox/MXvsATV in their scans."

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Stuntman949
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9/19/2018 11:42am
JN137 wrote:
What do you guys like better - Stew Compound or Goat farm?

125 pages so sorry if someone already asked lol
I'm still in the honeymoon stage of the Goat Farm so its a biased opinion but the Opencross track and the single track on the farm are badass even if they aren't real. Also you can race the Supercross tracks where I don't think the Stew Compound supy tracks were.

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