Just a poll about who would win in a dream championship.

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Js217 9/4/2018 1:49pm
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Jeremy Macbeth wrote:
Enough with this bullshit. Give it a rest.
God ya it sucks when your on an mx/sx forum, and people are talking about mx/sx instead of what you want everyone else to talk about. If you dont like it
Start your own thread about which brand of tampon fits best in your vagina lol. Put a lid on it and vote or get out of my poll/thread.

And please stop being bittburt about how, RC4 or RV2 would eat this current crop of riders.

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RC and anyone who votes otherwise is either a child who never saw his dominance, or an idiot.
You are too young to remember Bob Hanah 1978 / 79
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Jeremy Macbeth wrote:
Enough with this bullshit. Give it a rest.
Js217 wrote:
God ya it sucks when your on an mx/sx forum, and people are talking about mx/sx instead of what you want everyone else to talk about...
God ya it sucks when your on an mx/sx forum, and people are talking about mx/sx instead of what you want everyone else to talk about. If you dont like it
Start your own thread about which brand of tampon fits best in your vagina lol. Put a lid on it and vote or get out of my poll/thread.

And please stop being bittburt about how, RC4 or RV2 would eat this current crop of riders.

Looks like you're the one that's butthurt over someone giving his opinion.
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Js217 9/4/2018 2:45pm
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huck wrote:
Stewart doesn't even get a mention? He'd smoke Tomac...hypothetically.
True, JS7 IS FMOTP but not DOMINATE in a championship against any other champion, for example in mx 2009 to 2016, no championships(too much other talent)and in supercross 2010-2016 no championships.

Fastest ever though indisputable fact.
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Jeremy Macbeth wrote:
Enough with this bullshit. Give it a rest.
Js217 wrote:
God ya it sucks when your on an mx/sx forum, and people are talking about mx/sx instead of what you want everyone else to talk about...
God ya it sucks when your on an mx/sx forum, and people are talking about mx/sx instead of what you want everyone else to talk about. If you dont like it
Start your own thread about which brand of tampon fits best in your vagina lol. Put a lid on it and vote or get out of my poll/thread.

And please stop being bittburt about how, RC4 or RV2 would eat this current crop of riders.

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Looks like you're the one that's butthurt over someone giving his opinion.
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude.

Were here to talk about the subject matter, not the issue vitards have with polling lol
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Js217 wrote:
God ya it sucks when your on an mx/sx forum, and people are talking about mx/sx instead of what you want everyone else to talk about...
God ya it sucks when your on an mx/sx forum, and people are talking about mx/sx instead of what you want everyone else to talk about. If you dont like it
Start your own thread about which brand of tampon fits best in your vagina lol. Put a lid on it and vote or get out of my poll/thread.

And please stop being bittburt about how, RC4 or RV2 would eat this current crop of riders.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Looks like you're the one that's butthurt over someone giving his opinion.
Js217 wrote:
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude. Were here to talk about the subject matter, not...
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude.

Were here to talk about the subject matter, not the issue vitards have with polling lol
Ask him not me.

If I had to guess it's because you started 3 threads since you've been here and all 3 include polls. And judging by the way all 3 of your poll threads have gone I'd say NOGAF about them and that's why Macbeth said to stop with that bullshit. Tired of seeing stupid threads.
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Jeremy Macbeth 9/4/2018 3:26pm
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Js217 wrote:
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude. Were here to talk about the subject matter, not...
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude.

Were here to talk about the subject matter, not the issue vitards have with polling lol
This topic is the definition of trite. And, yes, polls are stupid. Dumbest thing Vital has done to this site in a long time.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Looks like you're the one that's butthurt over someone giving his opinion.
Js217 wrote:
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude. Were here to talk about the subject matter, not...
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude.

Were here to talk about the subject matter, not the issue vitards have with polling lol
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Ask him not me. If I had to guess it's because you started 3 threads since you've been here and all 3 include polls. And judging...
Ask him not me.

If I had to guess it's because you started 3 threads since you've been here and all 3 include polls. And judging by the way all 3 of your poll threads have gone I'd say NOGAF about them and that's why Macbeth said to stop with that bullshit. Tired of seeing stupid threads.
I would say the polls have gone well look at the results of the polls and their time on here. I would say people are enjoying the all time fantasy MX/SX CHAMPIONSHIP(RC4 still leading by a mile), but nonethe less its got alot of votes wich mean peopel are here looking and voting.
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Js217 9/4/2018 4:55pm
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Js217 wrote:
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude. Were here to talk about the subject matter, not...
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude.

Were here to talk about the subject matter, not the issue vitards have with polling lol
Jeremy Macbeth wrote:
This topic is the definition of trite. And, yes, polls are stupid. Dumbest thing Vital has done to this site in a long time.
See why the negativity were all gaving a good time, and as much as you hate on my polls, i would be willing to bet that you voted in said poll huh? Or all of them?
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Js217 wrote:
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude. Were here to talk about the subject matter, not...
Lol well why does this guy have to encroach on our lovely thread with his negative attitude.

Were here to talk about the subject matter, not the issue vitards have with polling lol
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Ask him not me. If I had to guess it's because you started 3 threads since you've been here and all 3 include polls. And judging...
Ask him not me.

If I had to guess it's because you started 3 threads since you've been here and all 3 include polls. And judging by the way all 3 of your poll threads have gone I'd say NOGAF about them and that's why Macbeth said to stop with that bullshit. Tired of seeing stupid threads.
Js217 wrote:
I would say the polls have gone well look at the results of the polls and their time on here. I would say people are enjoying...
I would say the polls have gone well look at the results of the polls and their time on here. I would say people are enjoying the all time fantasy MX/SX CHAMPIONSHIP(RC4 still leading by a mile), but nonethe less its got alot of votes wich mean peopel are here looking and voting.
Looking and voting, sure. A lot of those votes aren't from the guys discussing the topics. I was more referring to the fact that none of them got an upvote. All of them received downvotes.

That means guys couldn't care less about the topics/polls you started.
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Js217 9/4/2018 5:23pm
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Then why are they voting lol. This is vital everyone thumbs down every thread VITARDS UNIIIIIITTTTEEE Smile ))) loosen up and enjoy that the goat (who would still be dominant by a landslide if he was racing), is an american and that we all experienced the greatest racer ever!!!!!!!
P.s. RC4 couldve Punted the In shape, factory yamaha backed, CR22 at ausx a couple years ago lol just putting that there
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Js217 wrote:
Then why are they voting lol. This is vital everyone thumbs down every thread VITARDS UNIIIIIITTTTEEE :)))) loosen up and enjoy that the goat (who would...
Then why are they voting lol. This is vital everyone thumbs down every thread VITARDS UNIIIIIITTTTEEE Smile ))) loosen up and enjoy that the goat (who would still be dominant by a landslide if he was racing), is an american and that we all experienced the greatest racer ever!!!!!!!
P.s. RC4 couldve Punted the In shape, factory yamaha backed, CR22 at ausx a couple years ago lol just putting that there
Let's just agree to disagree.

VBT knows best.
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You don't even have to read the stipulations of the pole, the title alone should guarantee a vote for the GOAT.
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Js217 wrote:
Then why are they voting lol. This is vital everyone thumbs down every thread VITARDS UNIIIIIITTTTEEE :)))) loosen up and enjoy that the goat (who would...
Then why are they voting lol. This is vital everyone thumbs down every thread VITARDS UNIIIIIITTTTEEE Smile ))) loosen up and enjoy that the goat (who would still be dominant by a landslide if he was racing), is an american and that we all experienced the greatest racer ever!!!!!!!
P.s. RC4 couldve Punted the In shape, factory yamaha backed, CR22 at ausx a couple years ago lol just putting that there
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Let's just agree to disagree.

VBT knows best.
Im behind whats VBT
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Js217 wrote:
Then why are they voting lol. This is vital everyone thumbs down every thread VITARDS UNIIIIIITTTTEEE :)))) loosen up and enjoy that the goat (who would...
Then why are they voting lol. This is vital everyone thumbs down every thread VITARDS UNIIIIIITTTTEEE Smile ))) loosen up and enjoy that the goat (who would still be dominant by a landslide if he was racing), is an american and that we all experienced the greatest racer ever!!!!!!!
P.s. RC4 couldve Punted the In shape, factory yamaha backed, CR22 at ausx a couple years ago lol just putting that there
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Let's just agree to disagree.

VBT knows best.
Js217 wrote:
Im behind whats VBT
LOL. The Vital Brain Trust.

Can't remember who came up with the term but ask Harry Backmon. In fact he might actually be the one who came up with it. If not I know he can explain it better than me.

Harry where you at?
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Let's just agree to disagree.

VBT knows best.
Js217 wrote:
Im behind whats VBT
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LOL. The Vital Brain Trust. Can't remember who came up with the term but ask Harry Backmon. In fact he might actually be the one who...
LOL. The Vital Brain Trust.

Can't remember who came up with the term but ask Harry Backmon. In fact he might actually be the one who came up with it. If not I know he can explain it better than me.

Harry where you at?
LMFAO YES VITARDS ARE THE ENLIGHTENED RACE!!!!!!!
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inthebadboycorner wrote:
You are too young to remember Bob Hanah 1978 / 79
I remember Bob very well and he was flipping awesome. Peak Hurricane vs peak GOAT is the stuff of MX dreams Smile
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BobKerr 9/5/2018 4:47am
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RC of course.

I'm confused as why this is even a question. Has anyone else on that list had two perfect seasons in motocross?
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Shocking to me that Cairoli has less votes than Tomac, s d that Roczen isn't on the list
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BobKerr wrote:
RC of course.

I'm confused as why this is even a question. Has anyone else on that list had two perfect seasons in motocross?
Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone else (canard,millsaps, etc) for 4 straight years.
RC4 only had to handle, CR22 and JS7 (2greats) and whindam(top 5) for 1.5 years.

RC beat 2 greats and one top 5 guy for 1.5 years=2 titles.


RV2 swamped 3 greats and 6-10 top-5 guys for 4 years= 5-6 titles in 4 years

So in their prime, against nearly equal talent, RV2 won more in less time, against WAYYYYYYYYY better competition. Not knocking RC still the GOAT no doubt, but if anyone could have taken the name GOAT it would be RV2 and RC4 Knew That and is probably the real reason he retired.I
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Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone...
Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone else (canard,millsaps, etc) for 4 straight years.
RC4 only had to handle, CR22 and JS7 (2greats) and whindam(top 5) for 1.5 years.

RC beat 2 greats and one top 5 guy for 1.5 years=2 titles.


RV2 swamped 3 greats and 6-10 top-5 guys for 4 years= 5-6 titles in 4 years

So in their prime, against nearly equal talent, RV2 won more in less time, against WAYYYYYYYYY better competition. Not knocking RC still the GOAT no doubt, but if anyone could have taken the name GOAT it would be RV2 and RC4 Knew That and is probably the real reason he retired.I
Wow . This really is the stupidity at it's finest. Like WTF are you even talking about . RC beat A guy called Mcgrath how is he not a great . RC had way better competition imo .he just made them look silly .
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This is an unanswerable question. If the riders you listed had to ride 1970's machines and tracks against riders of that era I don't know how they'd stack up. And vice versa. 45+2 or 30+2? Box van or motorhome. Factory unobtainable or homolgamated? Too damn many variables. These threads just allow people to try and justify their favorite riders as the best of all time. Many riders were the best of THEIR time. The record book is the closest we will ever have of determining a GOAT. Since there is very little crossover from GP's and US Nationals except for MXdN...this is an unanswerable question.
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crusty_xx 9/5/2018 4:53pm
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BobKerr wrote:
RC of course.

I'm confused as why this is even a question. Has anyone else on that list had two perfect seasons in motocross?
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Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone...
Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone else (canard,millsaps, etc) for 4 straight years.
RC4 only had to handle, CR22 and JS7 (2greats) and whindam(top 5) for 1.5 years.

RC beat 2 greats and one top 5 guy for 1.5 years=2 titles.


RV2 swamped 3 greats and 6-10 top-5 guys for 4 years= 5-6 titles in 4 years

So in their prime, against nearly equal talent, RV2 won more in less time, against WAYYYYYYYYY better competition. Not knocking RC still the GOAT no doubt, but if anyone could have taken the name GOAT it would be RV2 and RC4 Knew That and is probably the real reason he retired.I
So you say Canard and Millsaps are better than Fonseca, Vuillemin, Ferry? How do you figure?
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Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone...
Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone else (canard,millsaps, etc) for 4 straight years.
RC4 only had to handle, CR22 and JS7 (2greats) and whindam(top 5) for 1.5 years.

RC beat 2 greats and one top 5 guy for 1.5 years=2 titles.


RV2 swamped 3 greats and 6-10 top-5 guys for 4 years= 5-6 titles in 4 years

So in their prime, against nearly equal talent, RV2 won more in less time, against WAYYYYYYYYY better competition. Not knocking RC still the GOAT no doubt, but if anyone could have taken the name GOAT it would be RV2 and RC4 Knew That and is probably the real reason he retired.I
Reed beat RV more in a day than in a 4 year career vs Ricky.
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plowboy wrote:
This is an unanswerable question. If the riders you listed had to ride 1970's machines and tracks against riders of that era I don't know how...
This is an unanswerable question. If the riders you listed had to ride 1970's machines and tracks against riders of that era I don't know how they'd stack up. And vice versa. 45+2 or 30+2? Box van or motorhome. Factory unobtainable or homolgamated? Too damn many variables. These threads just allow people to try and justify their favorite riders as the best of all time. Many riders were the best of THEIR time. The record book is the closest we will ever have of determining a GOAT. Since there is very little crossover from GP's and US Nationals except for MXdN...this is an unanswerable question.
Hmm if we include all champions on say a 1995 CR i would still put my money on RV2 and/or RC4

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BobKerr wrote:
RC of course.

I'm confused as why this is even a question. Has anyone else on that list had two perfect seasons in motocross?
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Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone...
Yes RC4, but frankly RV2 won 5-6 chamionships in 4 years against atleast 450 champions and multi-time 450 champions(stewart, reed, dungey, roczen and then and everyone else (canard,millsaps, etc) for 4 straight years.
RC4 only had to handle, CR22 and JS7 (2greats) and whindam(top 5) for 1.5 years.

RC beat 2 greats and one top 5 guy for 1.5 years=2 titles.


RV2 swamped 3 greats and 6-10 top-5 guys for 4 years= 5-6 titles in 4 years

So in their prime, against nearly equal talent, RV2 won more in less time, against WAYYYYYYYYY better competition. Not knocking RC still the GOAT no doubt, but if anyone could have taken the name GOAT it would be RV2 and RC4 Knew That and is probably the real reason he retired.I
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So you say Canard and Millsaps are better than Fonseca, Vuillemin, Ferry? How do you figure?
Lol reed beat RV2 6-8 times
In a stacked feild..

And fonseca and ferry were great top 5 guys and vuilimen fell off the map after 1 or 2 years of sx.
Davi almost won the championship against RV REED Stewart etc, and though canard was never a championship threat he would ALWAYS have the speed to win that so many did not have.

And as far as racers before 98' i cant speak for them as i dont know enough about them, but feel free to fill me in. I know hannah, stanton, decoster, you know a couple legends, but i dont know their stats
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blockhead17 9/6/2018 1:13am
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Ricky, James and Chad was the best and toughest supercross racing ever.. the guys have around 50 wins each against each other.. That means for almost 150 races they were the guys! Take any one of the 3 out and one (or both) of the others would have more wins than MC
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Shocking to me that Cairoli has less votes than Tomac, s d that Roczen isn't on the list
Supercross......ya gotta be able to dominate both sports to be the GOAT. If RC decided to race outdoors only earlier in his career, he would still be dominating the GP's to this day. Anyone who only races outdoors shouldn't be included. Imagine if Tomac only focused on racing outdoors?
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