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Graybeard wrote:
WOW, not a lot of love for CR22 down under! Really surprises me--who's the biggest MX legend from Australia, to the Aussies on here?
brycepdh wrote:
We all love him mate, it’s just that we don’t put up this arrogance without actually backing it up. It’s just the way we take it...
We all love him mate, it’s just that we don’t put up this arrogance without actually backing it up. It’s just the way we take it in these situations.

Mitch Evans is a 19 year old kid having a big dig in his rookie season in the 450 class and going very well, I think he deserves the shot. Been following him since juniors and his talent just steps huge levels year after year. Shows how much hard work he’s putting in.
Very well said! I've always admired Reed, but this is not admirable
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Does any remeber last time reed raced mxon in latvia 2014? He didnt even both riding or training up to the event. He even said that...
Does any remeber last time reed raced mxon in latvia 2014? He didnt even both riding or training up to the event. He even said that in a prerace interview. He should of raced some Nationals this year to show hes ready. Gibbs and Evans deserve the spots.
Yep I remember that and it pissed me off when he said it, he obviously didn't give a fuck about the MXON then. They way he's carrying on about being left out now (without any outdoor racing or even a team, bike or anything) makes him look like a massive tool, and this is coming from a big Chad Reed fan.
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Graybeard wrote:
WOW, not a lot of love for CR22 down under! Really surprises me--who's the biggest MX legend from Australia, to the Aussies on here?
brycepdh wrote:
We all love him mate, it’s just that we don’t put up this arrogance without actually backing it up. It’s just the way we take it...
We all love him mate, it’s just that we don’t put up this arrogance without actually backing it up. It’s just the way we take it in these situations.

Mitch Evans is a 19 year old kid having a big dig in his rookie season in the 450 class and going very well, I think he deserves the shot. Been following him since juniors and his talent just steps huge levels year after year. Shows how much hard work he’s putting in.
PJRAUS wrote:
Very well said! I've always admired Reed, but this is not admirable
Disagree. He deserves his last hoorah. If he looked like last season I would say no, but in this case for all he's done for mx in Australia the shape he's in right now and listening to pulp 60 show his times at the jgr facility were right up their with Peick, he deserved the call up. Evans has plenty of time to prove him self. I personally feel there's some little beef between him and Byrne that didn't help his chances.
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What an absolute disgrace for Reed and his Mrs to stomp their feet when he hasn't been picked.

How long has it been since Reed raced motocross for more than 2 weeks in a row? What on earth gives him the right to just expect to be picked on no real merit other than a very mediocre supercross season. Because of who he was 10 years ago? Get real. He could have at least got off his arse and instagram app and actually race at Red Bud this year to put a case forward.

These other guys are doing the hard work lining up week in week out while the Reeds figure out how to stay relevant through social media.

I'm always proud of what our Aussies accomplish overseas and even travelled to matterly and Anaheim to watch Chad race, but the Reeds have lost a current fan in me. Get off your fucking high horse and either put up or shut up, or fuck off into the retirement sunset.
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brycepdh wrote:
We all love him mate, it’s just that we don’t put up this arrogance without actually backing it up. It’s just the way we take it...
We all love him mate, it’s just that we don’t put up this arrogance without actually backing it up. It’s just the way we take it in these situations.

Mitch Evans is a 19 year old kid having a big dig in his rookie season in the 450 class and going very well, I think he deserves the shot. Been following him since juniors and his talent just steps huge levels year after year. Shows how much hard work he’s putting in.
PJRAUS wrote:
Very well said! I've always admired Reed, but this is not admirable
Dougy1 wrote:
Disagree. He deserves his last hoorah. If he looked like last season I would say no, but in this case for all he's done for mx...
Disagree. He deserves his last hoorah. If he looked like last season I would say no, but in this case for all he's done for mx in Australia the shape he's in right now and listening to pulp 60 show his times at the jgr facility were right up their with Peick, he deserved the call up. Evans has plenty of time to prove him self. I personally feel there's some little beef between him and Byrne that didn't help his chances.
Well I believe we should put our best possible team in the race, not use it as a sendoff for a past champion.
Could Chad really put in 2 30 min motos at max pace? The other guys all can, been doing it all year, although Gibbs dropped out early through injury. I understand the reason for choosing Gibbs..hed never ride poorly because he wasn't feeling it or whatever...he'd never park it if he wasn't up near the front...Hes very fast, very fit and an excellent starter.
It's possible that there are a couple of other younger riders that might be going faster than Gibbs since he got injured, but he would totally have Chad covered, Chad wouldn't even see which way Evans went the way Evans is riding right now.
I think this team might get top 5 barring any bad luck, maybe even better if bad luck hits some of the top teams.
Team AUS has had plenty of bad luck at mxon"s....hope we get dome good luck this year.
I reckon Evans will raise some eyebrows in timed qualifyingl
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I'd actually really like to see Reed represent AUS at the mxon again..next year...this year would have been a cop out as a last Harrah.
It would be great if he lands a team ride for next year in both sx and mx, puts his heart and soul into making it a farewell tour to both remember and be proud of, topped off with being team leader at the mxon because he was once again our very best rider
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8/18/2018 1:22am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2018 2:08am
PJRAUS wrote:
Very well said! I've always admired Reed, but this is not admirable
Dougy1 wrote:
Disagree. He deserves his last hoorah. If he looked like last season I would say no, but in this case for all he's done for mx...
Disagree. He deserves his last hoorah. If he looked like last season I would say no, but in this case for all he's done for mx in Australia the shape he's in right now and listening to pulp 60 show his times at the jgr facility were right up their with Peick, he deserved the call up. Evans has plenty of time to prove him self. I personally feel there's some little beef between him and Byrne that didn't help his chances.
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Well I believe we should put our best possible team in the race, not use it as a sendoff for a past champion. Could Chad really...
Well I believe we should put our best possible team in the race, not use it as a sendoff for a past champion.
Could Chad really put in 2 30 min motos at max pace? The other guys all can, been doing it all year, although Gibbs dropped out early through injury. I understand the reason for choosing Gibbs..hed never ride poorly because he wasn't feeling it or whatever...he'd never park it if he wasn't up near the front...Hes very fast, very fit and an excellent starter.
It's possible that there are a couple of other younger riders that might be going faster than Gibbs since he got injured, but he would totally have Chad covered, Chad wouldn't even see which way Evans went the way Evans is riding right now.
I think this team might get top 5 barring any bad luck, maybe even better if bad luck hits some of the top teams.
Team AUS has had plenty of bad luck at mxon"s....hope we get dome good luck this year.
I reckon Evans will raise some eyebrows in timed qualifyingl
Fair call.
So would Evans be able to say keep pace with Peick? ( genuine question) That's about Reeds pace But I agree that Reed for 2 30 min motos would not stay with Peick at the moment . In all honesty I haven't even watched Evans so I'm far from qualified to have an opinion on him other than I felt if fit Reed deserved a crack.
Im definitely still looking forward to watching the Aussies and see what this Evans guy has this year in an international field. Gibbs, in an international field definitely cool with him and can't wait to see what Lawrence can do. Il add if Reed does Iron man we will all get our answer on his speed and who shoulda woulda coulda deserved the spot out of Reed and Evans
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Dougy1 wrote:
Disagree. He deserves his last hoorah. If he looked like last season I would say no, but in this case for all he's done for mx...
Disagree. He deserves his last hoorah. If he looked like last season I would say no, but in this case for all he's done for mx in Australia the shape he's in right now and listening to pulp 60 show his times at the jgr facility were right up their with Peick, he deserved the call up. Evans has plenty of time to prove him self. I personally feel there's some little beef between him and Byrne that didn't help his chances.
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Well I believe we should put our best possible team in the race, not use it as a sendoff for a past champion. Could Chad really...
Well I believe we should put our best possible team in the race, not use it as a sendoff for a past champion.
Could Chad really put in 2 30 min motos at max pace? The other guys all can, been doing it all year, although Gibbs dropped out early through injury. I understand the reason for choosing Gibbs..hed never ride poorly because he wasn't feeling it or whatever...he'd never park it if he wasn't up near the front...Hes very fast, very fit and an excellent starter.
It's possible that there are a couple of other younger riders that might be going faster than Gibbs since he got injured, but he would totally have Chad covered, Chad wouldn't even see which way Evans went the way Evans is riding right now.
I think this team might get top 5 barring any bad luck, maybe even better if bad luck hits some of the top teams.
Team AUS has had plenty of bad luck at mxon"s....hope we get dome good luck this year.
I reckon Evans will raise some eyebrows in timed qualifyingl
Dougy1 wrote:
Fair call. So would Evans be able to say keep pace with Peick? ( genuine question) That's about Reeds pace But I agree that Reed for...
Fair call.
So would Evans be able to say keep pace with Peick? ( genuine question) That's about Reeds pace But I agree that Reed for 2 30 min motos would not stay with Peick at the moment . In all honesty I haven't even watched Evans so I'm far from qualified to have an opinion on him other than I felt if fit Reed deserved a crack.
Im definitely still looking forward to watching the Aussies and see what this Evans guy has this year in an international field. Gibbs, in an international field definitely cool with him and can't wait to see what Lawrence can do. Il add if Reed does Iron man we will all get our answer on his speed and who shoulda woulda coulda deserved the spot out of Reed and Evans
I hope he does iron man too, that would be great...look he may well prove to be our fastest guy after Ferriss. But lap times on a practice track are one thing...gate drops up against fierce competition is another...
I don't understand how he can think that he should have been chosen based on him just saying he's fit and been practising, ya gotta race to prove yourself..he's done bugger all mx in years
The standard in the top 10 in mx1 in AUS is pretty good at the moment. Evans is absolutely blitzing it right now...totally deserves the spot , Ferris says so!
Can't wait to see what he does, hope he doesn't get all nervous and blow it.
Just very disappointed in the way Chad handled this, his statement saying he was dissapointed not to be chosen was fine, the follow up saying that he is faster than anyone on the team is just disrespectful and certainly not the way to impress his fans...hes losing plenty of them over this...
I just hope he races his heart out next year in mx and sx and proves his point...Now that would be great.
Sure hope he doesn't go out on this stinky old note...leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth
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Well Evans has been keeping pace with Ferris...I don't know how he would go against Peik...but Evans has beaten Ferris in super pole qualifying a couple times now ,I think..I did see him do that at the first round this year...he was flying...but when the gate drops is when it counts and he's been really making it count this year
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PJRAUS wrote:
Well Evans has been keeping pace with Ferris...I don't know how he would go against Peik...but Evans has beaten Ferris in super pole qualifying a couple...
Well Evans has been keeping pace with Ferris...I don't know how he would go against Peik...but Evans has beaten Ferris in super pole qualifying a couple times now ,I think..I did see him do that at the first round this year...he was flying...but when the gate drops is when it counts and he's been really making it count this year
OK cool thats legit look forward to watching mxon
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8/18/2018 3:01am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2018 3:02am
If Reed really wanted to be in the MXDN this year, he should have done a few Outdoors, especially the one at the actual venue that it's to be held at.

He made noises about doing a few Outdoors, but didn't do them.

Whilst others are out there having a go, he should be too. Thinking your 'past' will put you into a National Team, is a very foolish thing to do.

It's not about hating or luurving the bloke, it's about his current results, and him showing that he is serious about representing his country.

He had the opportunity to show he meant business, didn't, and that is a f**k up on his part.

It's as simple as that.
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8/18/2018 5:17am
Reed doing a Reed. Shocker.

And calls himself the Australian GOAT, to boot.
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8/18/2018 5:44am
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Reed doing a Reed. Shocker.

And calls himself the Australian GOAT, to boot.
Not like that's an argument. He's easily better than any other Aussie rider. Shit he's neck and neck for best Aussie motorsportsman with Mick Doohan.
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8/18/2018 7:11am
tingo wrote:
Reed doing a Reed. Shocker.

And calls himself the Australian GOAT, to boot.
Crush wrote:
Not like that's an argument. He's easily better than any other Aussie rider. Shit he's neck and neck for best Aussie motorsportsman with Mick Doohan.
My unstated point was about his lack of humbleness.

For the record, the true Aussie GOAT is Alby Mangles.
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tingo wrote:
Reed doing a Reed. Shocker.

And calls himself the Australian GOAT, to boot.
OK. Let's wind things back a bit your saying he's not the goat? Of au. Was a little cockyof him I know but
hey I don't mind, I've thrown him under a bus a lot like everyone on this whole forum. But he's right.. When you have Motorcycling Australia on their Instagram basically claiming him and promoting him for an up coming supercross, just too get a response or a like on their post.. AND THEN FADE HIM 2 WEEKS Later you wonder why him and Ellie call shit out all the time. If you look at even jgr and yoshimura Rd the last few days they have both milked Chad's test day....FACT, On their social media pages without even a pen to paper potentially... Other then them loaning him a bike to practice on.. I'm well aware he has an ego and is outspoken but their is often more too it, There is always 2 sides too a story and plenty of people have milked the CR 22 band wagon and I think they have had enough.
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Kinda a shitty call for himself to say that Ferris is the only Australian rider that can beat him with nothing to back that up. I...
Kinda a shitty call for himself to say that Ferris is the only Australian rider that can beat him with nothing to back that up. I am an Australian and a huge fan of reed but there’s something’s you shouldn’t call out.
He also called out Byrne and Motorcycling Australia, which I found a bit unnecessary. I don’t get either the massive support he is getting on social...
He also called out Byrne and Motorcycling Australia, which I found a bit unnecessary.

I don’t get either the massive support he is getting on social media. People really think he should be picked based on his former merrits? That he would actually be competitive without any outdoor racing on under his belt? I’ve liked Reed ever since he was a kid showing up in the world championships and agree that the guy is an absolute legend but still. I didn’t even know him racing the nations was an option until his instagram post.
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Calling out MA for allowing a National supercross on the same date is what every Aussie should be doing, not just Reed. It is laughable (but...
Calling out MA for allowing a National supercross on the same date is what every Aussie should be doing, not just Reed.
It is laughable (but not surprising) that the organisation that is supposed to support and grow motorcycling in Australia can fuck this up so monumentaly.

As for calling out Byner, that might be a bit harsh.

Ask Ferris, Gibbs or Waters if there is any Aussie rider that they think they cannot beat and they will all say no. Reed is no different, that is why they have all been and continue to be successful.
Yes I agree that putting it on the same date is a total fuck up by MA. What I meant was that that is a whole other topic and is irrelevant when he is talking about him not being selected. He and everyone else should have raised hell about it when it was announced.
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Char Reed at 19 was already winning races. Both in the mxgp series as well as ama. These kids are good I'm sure but not Chad Reed good. Metcalf has won races as well. If those two say that they could smoke the guys selected I'd tend to believe them. Not to mention Chad has done more for Australian motocross than anyone else in the history of motocross I'd say yeah, he deserves the spot. Same with Metcalf, I remember him racing some very fast guys and doing very good. Plus he's a great guy, very humble. Australia screwed there swansong
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Char Reed at 19 was already winning races. Both in the mxgp series as well as ama. These kids are good I'm sure but not Chad...
Char Reed at 19 was already winning races. Both in the mxgp series as well as ama. These kids are good I'm sure but not Chad Reed good. Metcalf has won races as well. If those two say that they could smoke the guys selected I'd tend to believe them. Not to mention Chad has done more for Australian motocross than anyone else in the history of motocross I'd say yeah, he deserves the spot. Same with Metcalf, I remember him racing some very fast guys and doing very good. Plus he's a great guy, very humble. Australia screwed there swansong
Haven't read anything about Metcalf saying he could beat the guys chosen? It would seem a bit silly as theyve been beating him all year..
Not Chad Reed good? How would we really know? Chad hasn't raced mx at all recently and last time he did...he was the one getting smoked.
If he'd raced some US nationals this year and top 10ed every time then he might have a stronger claim and a reasonable argument
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I'm thinking he should have too, but his resume is enough for me. He's given the down under a lot of love over the years and I'd have let him and burnyr have it. Chad wears his heart on his sleeve, I like guys like that.
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Metcalfe finished 6th in the series this year behind Dylan Long, Caleb Ward , Luke Clout, Mitch Evans and Dean Ferris.
Yeah he has more experience in big events like mxon but fair"s fair...
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8/18/2018 1:01pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2018 1:03pm
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Metcalfe finished 6th in the series this year behind Dylan Long, Caleb Ward , Luke Clout, Mitch Evans and Dean Ferris. Yeah he has more experience...
Metcalfe finished 6th in the series this year behind Dylan Long, Caleb Ward , Luke Clout, Mitch Evans and Dean Ferris.
Yeah he has more experience in big events like mxon but fair"s fair...
True but had a few DNF mechanicals, once he figured the bike out mid season he was back up to top 3 pace
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8/18/2018 3:06pm
You are all forgetting something, As a tax payer and MA member since 1977 i am paying for this junket, so I want the fastest team possible with the best possible result.
Fuck, I am older than Reed and have paid more money into MA and Australian taxes, wheres my last hurray!
Fuck him!
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You are all forgetting something, As a tax payer and MA member since 1977 i am paying for this junket, so I want the fastest team...
You are all forgetting something, As a tax payer and MA member since 1977 i am paying for this junket, so I want the fastest team possible with the best possible result.
Fuck, I am older than Reed and have paid more money into MA and Australian taxes, wheres my last hurray!
Fuck him!
Actually the riders are required to pay a percentage of the cost themselves...
Oh yeah, they actually had to fill out an application to nominate themselves to race and agree to pay some of the costs themselves.
Was just , if Reed didn't lodge an application ...he wouldn't ever get chosen...
He said on that follow up rant that he didn't ask to be selected, just that he expected to be based on his current practice form and prior experience.
I'll see if I can dig up the MA application thing...
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So here's a copy of the MA announcement...did Reed even lodge an application? Would that even matter?
I dunno, but you know how MA is when it comes to their stupid rules and late entries etc...



Motorcycling Australia (MA) is calling for applications from elite Australian motocross riders to join Australian team at the 2018 FIM Motocross of Nations (MXoN).

Often called the ‘Olympics of Motocross’, the infamous event often exceeds all hype with an electric atmosphere as capacity crowds cheer on their nation’s best. The FIM MXON is held at Redbud, United States of America on October 6-7, 2018.

MA is a long-time proud supporter of Australia’s national teams and will be providing financial and administrative support for the team again in 2018. Applicants are advised that there will be some rider contribution to costs required in 2018.

There are three classes available for riders to nominate for: MX1, MX2 and Open. Riders are advised that they can nominate for more than one class.

Please ensure you advise below exactly the class you are entering. There is no maximum age for the MX2 class.

Michael Byrne has been elected Australian Team Manager for the 2018 MXoN. More information on the event can be found at: http://redbudmxon.com/

It is anticipated that the time away will be approximately 7 days, with final details still to be confirmed.

Application forms for team rider positions are available to download here, and must be returned by COB Friday July 27, 2018.

Applications and enquiries should be addressed to:
Matthew Falvo
Motorcycling Australia
PO Box 134
South Melbourne, VIC 3205
offroad@ma.org.au

Further information can be found on the MA website.
8/18/2018 5:18pm
tingo wrote:
Reed doing a Reed. Shocker.

And calls himself the Australian GOAT, to boot.
Crush wrote:
Not like that's an argument. He's easily better than any other Aussie rider. Shit he's neck and neck for best Aussie motorsportsman with Mick Doohan.
Mick Doohan won the biggest motorcycle title in the world 5 years straight, Reed is good, but Doohan is next level,

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8/18/2018 6:14pm
tingo wrote:
Reed doing a Reed. Shocker.

And calls himself the Australian GOAT, to boot.
Crush wrote:
Not like that's an argument. He's easily better than any other Aussie rider. Shit he's neck and neck for best Aussie motorsportsman with Mick Doohan.
scott_nz wrote:
Mick Doohan won the biggest motorcycle title in the world 5 years straight, Reed is good, but Doohan is next level,

Wrong sport mate!
8/18/2018 6:57pm
Dear Chad,

You and your wife are a disgrace. I've never seen such self-entitled brats in my life. To whine and complain about not being selected at the MXoN after doing absolutely nothing to support your claim is nothing short of disgraceful.

Chad, you say that Hunter Lawrence would not be able to beat you around Red Bud? I laughed. Oh how I laughed. Yes, that's the same kid that went out and qualified P2 in MX2 yesterday. In reality, you wouldn't see which way he went. Do you think you could stay within 2 secs of Jorge Prado? No way. No how. In fact, I'd go as far to say you would barely scrape top 5 in Aus MX right now. I can't see Chad Reed going as fast as a Mitch Evans or a Caleb Ward at the end of 30 minutes. Those kids are animals. You know, like you were before you got rich and entitled.

You see Chad, posting up selfies of yourself after losing a few pounds (the ones you always gain in the off season because you can't be bothered staying in shape) and going on bike rides does not make you fit to race 30+2 outdoors. You can try to lie to us (and maybe yourself?) that you're in shape, but you would be nowhere near race fit. To get a spot racing the biggest motocross race of the year would, I don't know, just taking a stab here, maybe require you to race motocross?

And your machinery? What did you think you were going to ride? Everyone knows you blame your equipment. You whine, bitch, complain and smear your opinions all over media whilst driving mechanics and suspension techs nuts with your endless stupid changes. They all know, mate. They all know you're just not fast any more. You don't have options any more. You've scorched everyone. There's plenty of kids that could ride around your perceived issues with a motorcycle and do it for pennies.

And the missus and her empty threats. Maybe tell her to pipe down. Only hurts your career, or what's left of it. Do you think anyone in Australia gives a shit what she thinks? She morphed into a yank quicker than you did.

To Kirk Gibbs, Mitch Evans and Hunter Lawrence - get out there and pin it boys. You're ALL better than Chad Reed these days and you deserve your places. Stay humble and let your riding do the talking (not your insta posts).

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