james stewart in 2005

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.kyle wrote:
Would love to know how much power his 05 kx250 made. Is there any decent footage of him racing that bike where we can enjoy the...
Would love to know how much power his 05 kx250 made.

Is there any decent footage of him racing that bike where we can enjoy the sound of it?
turn volume all the way upSmile

https://youtu.be/mYlmr9mLb2c
so much cooler than anything in the last 10 years. and yes, 2005 was the year he came into the series and Carmichael (who, like Reed, was also on 2 strokes) said he knew Stewart was going to be a problem because of his talent and speed.
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I LOL'd at this video as it is pure-Stewart: insane speed. insane attack. insane desire. Then he got pressured, and: DIRT. I don't think anyone ever...
I LOL'd at this video as it is pure-Stewart:

insane speed.
insane attack.
insane desire.

Then he got pressured, and:
DIRT.

I don't think anyone ever beat Stewart more than he beat himself. Even his little crash in this race...Reed goes down, and Stewart instantly looks back. Ok, I'm in the clear. That's all it took to mess with his concentration and...BOOM.Clearly the fastest man on the track and he finishes 4th.
TDeath21 wrote:
“I don’t think anyone beat Stewart more than he beat himself” Depends on how you look at it. Others with his capabilities (which is a very...
“I don’t think anyone beat Stewart more than he beat himself”

Depends on how you look at it. Others with his capabilities (which is a very small list just so we are clear) took 2nd instead of risking the crash riding over their head to get 1st. He didn’t. So that keeps that sentence up there technically true but in reality it isn’t.
Come on dude, no one has ever had the capabilities of Stewart. Get real. If anyone comes close its RC or McGrath or K-dub on a...
Come on dude, no one has ever had the capabilities of Stewart. Get real. If anyone comes close its RC or McGrath or K-dub on a good day. RC would crash his brains out before getting beat, and MC was just too smooth to crash I guess.
Yeah I agree if every rider in the history of the sport was going as fast as they possibly could then I’d favor James.

But that’s not what racing is about. It’s about pushing that envelope but not breaking it. Stewart just couldn’t do that. When Carmichael or Reed’s 98% that day was better than Stewart’s 98%, Stewart pushed to 100%. Sometimes he won and other times he crashed. The crash was very often not just a drop from 1st to 2nd but instead out of the top 5 or even a DNF.

In doing so, however, it keeps up that narrative that “nobody beat him but himself” which is what I was pointing out was actually incorrect.
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Not on a 250, but worth posting because I still think it's crazy. I'm gonna start it at 28min, but pay attention from 28:50 to 29:00...
Not on a 250, but worth posting because I still think it's crazy. I'm gonna start it at 28min, but pay attention from 28:50 to 29:00... Blink

https://youtu.be/Hz_kJ2jaoCo?start=1680
What happened to tracks like that? What a cool design
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Anyone ever notice how his riding style has changed over the years? Much more aggressive and up over the bike back his kawi days

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8/3/2018 10:00pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2018 10:01pm
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the sx title last year. Sad.
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call me crazy I think a 2005 bubba on a his 125 would still come from dead last to first and win 250f races outdoors even in 2018 Wink
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I miss seeing him around the sport. Its so weird you don't see him involved with sport that meant so much to him for a long...
I miss seeing him around the sport. Its so weird you don't see him involved with sport that meant so much to him for a long time at all anymore - not even to support Malcolm. My best guess is that he's resentful of the sport and how his career ended.
Yeh it's a shame .. I wonder when he's ready if he will even do a little bit of commentary. I 'd agree there seems some obvious bitterness on how his career ended. Hence the silence
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It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most of the time. When his bike wasn't capable of going his speed he pushed it yes. I blame WADA for James flipping pro racing the bird, and furthermore for depriving us of the greatest rider ever imo. James was, and is, a class act who raced clean and I for one feel lucky to have seen him race. He made you stare slack jawed at his speed. I miss watching him ride a dirt bike, it was unreal at times. Super nice guy too.
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2005 Southwick has some good footage of him going wide open everywhere.

8/4/2018 3:31am
It was great to see JS in his prime, wonder why he never announced his retirement and just kinda drifted away from the sport?
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4-strokes were the worst thing to ever happen to James. It leveled the playing field for everyone else.
Man he could make a 2-stroke sing. It’s to bad he doesn’t do things like what RV is doing. He has so much talent and charisma. Could you imagine him being a brand ambassador? I’m sure he could make a killing just doing that. The attention he could attract to a brand. Would be so fun to watch him rip around on a Husky 125 or something at these dream races, or just putting out YouTube vids from his compound. Im sure he is enjoying his life and kids, but it’s a damn shame he just fell off the face of the moto planet.
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4-strokes were the worst thing to ever happen to James. It leveled the playing field for everyone else. Man he could make a 2-stroke sing. It’s...
4-strokes were the worst thing to ever happen to James. It leveled the playing field for everyone else.
Man he could make a 2-stroke sing. It’s to bad he doesn’t do things like what RV is doing. He has so much talent and charisma. Could you imagine him being a brand ambassador? I’m sure he could make a killing just doing that. The attention he could attract to a brand. Would be so fun to watch him rip around on a Husky 125 or something at these dream races, or just putting out YouTube vids from his compound. Im sure he is enjoying his life and kids, but it’s a damn shame he just fell off the face of the moto planet.
I agree about the 4 stroke thing even though he was amazing on the 450 too.

James was incredible on the 2 strokes. I think that is where he was at his best with his technique and talent.

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Stewart hated that bike and called it a "deathtrap," for the record.
That was probably more to do with them having to give the bike as much bhp as possible to try and beat RC's cheater bike.
If all the other riders had been on sensible normal bikes (250s), then Bubba wouldn't have hated that bike, imo.
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It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most...
It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most of the time. When his bike wasn't capable of going his speed he pushed it yes. I blame WADA for James flipping pro racing the bird, and furthermore for depriving us of the greatest rider ever imo. James was, and is, a class act who raced clean and I for one feel lucky to have seen him race. He made you stare slack jawed at his speed. I miss watching him ride a dirt bike, it was unreal at times. Super nice guy too.
Yea its wada s fault. Lol.
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B DUB 333 wrote:
It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most...
It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most of the time. When his bike wasn't capable of going his speed he pushed it yes. I blame WADA for James flipping pro racing the bird, and furthermore for depriving us of the greatest rider ever imo. James was, and is, a class act who raced clean and I for one feel lucky to have seen him race. He made you stare slack jawed at his speed. I miss watching him ride a dirt bike, it was unreal at times. Super nice guy too.
No it’s not. He crashed all the time when he was pressured. He’d also push hard for the win from a bad start and crash often.
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gnarwhip wrote:
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the...
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the sx title last year. Sad.
I’d say Kawi stepped it up with the ‘19s tho. Electric start, hydraulic clutch (and spring forks)
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gnarwhip wrote:
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the...
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the sx title last year. Sad.
What do you mean no 4-stroke for James in his prime? What do you think he was riding in 06 or every year afterward? What do you think he went 24-0 on?

Btw, that 2006 Kawi was not slow. I'd have to look for the clip but there's video of RC and Goose in the pits talking about how that Kawi was walking the Suzuki up the hills.
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TDeath21 wrote:
He had select races where he was running up front but more often than not he was the fourth fastest guy behind RC, Reed, and Windham...
He had select races where he was running up front but more often than not he was the fourth fastest guy behind RC, Reed, and Windham. Definitely underpowered.
mx196 wrote:
This. Plus I remember in an interview from Budds after he got 3rd behind Ricky and Chad, Erin Bates asked him what it will take for...
This.
Plus I remember in an interview from Budds after he got 3rd behind Ricky and Chad, Erin Bates asked him what it will take for him to run with Ricky his response was "A 450."
i remember this.
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TDeath21 wrote:
He had select races where he was running up front but more often than not he was the fourth fastest guy behind RC, Reed, and Windham...
He had select races where he was running up front but more often than not he was the fourth fastest guy behind RC, Reed, and Windham. Definitely underpowered.
You must have just woke up..?
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gnarwhip wrote:
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the...
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the sx title last year. Sad.
Are you mentally ill? They are far and away the winningest bikes over the last 20 years.
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I just miss having a guy who would go out there and pull out crazy quads or send the wall jump or seat bounce from the roller before over the wall jump. It seems like we’re missing that guy today, maybe there just isn’t anyone who feels the risk is worth it.
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gnarwhip wrote:
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the...
Another example of Kawi literally years behind the competition. No four stroke for James in his prime, no electric start for Eli, which cost him the sx title last year. Sad.
Eli cost Eli a title, not Kawasaki.

Back on topic, James Stewart was an incredible rider to watch. I saw him st the Seattle sx and Washougal (in his epic battle with RC), and even if he wasn't in first, I'd watch him over the other riders. Incredible speed.
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I miss seeing him around the sport. Its so weird you don't see him involved with sport that meant so much to him for a long...
I miss seeing him around the sport. Its so weird you don't see him involved with sport that meant so much to him for a long time at all anymore - not even to support Malcolm. My best guess is that he's resentful of the sport and how his career ended.
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Yeh it's a shame .. I wonder when he's ready if he will even do a little bit of commentary. I 'd agree there seems some...
Yeh it's a shame .. I wonder when he's ready if he will even do a little bit of commentary. I 'd agree there seems some obvious bitterness on how his career ended. Hence the silence
Bitterness maybe alittle especially towards the racist people who called him nigger at the races and disrespected his mom at some races it's well documented,GUY and Davey Combs are aware of it! I think the silence is fine and I'm happy ASF for him, all the contracts have been fulfilled and now it's all about his privacy and his family! Let the man be! There is always YouTube
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It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most...
It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most of the time. When his bike wasn't capable of going his speed he pushed it yes. I blame WADA for James flipping pro racing the bird, and furthermore for depriving us of the greatest rider ever imo. James was, and is, a class act who raced clean and I for one feel lucky to have seen him race. He made you stare slack jawed at his speed. I miss watching him ride a dirt bike, it was unreal at times. Super nice guy too.
TDeath21 wrote:
No it’s not. He crashed all the time when he was pressured. He’d also push hard for the win from a bad start and crash often.
You must be on a banned FIM substance.. Crashed all the time, really??
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Much respect to James. He owes no one here anything, with or without his experience over a youth in moto. Enjoy your family mate
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/08/04/278682/s1200_Debut_Anaheim_2002.jpg[/img]

Who gave this pic a thumbs down? You're a tool
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It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most...
It's a bunch of bs about Stewart crashing all the time, he went 24-0 for Christ's sake. When he had good bikes he rode upright most of the time. When his bike wasn't capable of going his speed he pushed it yes. I blame WADA for James flipping pro racing the bird, and furthermore for depriving us of the greatest rider ever imo. James was, and is, a class act who raced clean and I for one feel lucky to have seen him race. He made you stare slack jawed at his speed. I miss watching him ride a dirt bike, it was unreal at times. Super nice guy too.
TDeath21 wrote:
No it’s not. He crashed all the time when he was pressured. He’d also push hard for the win from a bad start and crash often.
MX-LIFE. wrote:
You must be on a banned FIM substance.. Crashed all the time, really??
I know.... I wonder if these people who say he crashed all the time have even seen him race. Again, 24-0.... that alone is 12+ hours of racing the best, and smoking them, without any big get off's. One of only two people to ever do that. The dude was a God on a dirt bike. And to the other comment, yeah, I blame wada, 18 months for Adderall when he had a script for it? Seems a bit excessive for a drug that I highly doubt would help you win races. I saw the dude multiple times both indoors and out, he was light speed fast-
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