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1/11/2018 8:27am
billyp330 wrote:
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but...
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but someone please educate me on how in a free country that offers plenty of government programs and job opportunities, education programs, etc, how one can not find enough means to at least feed themselves and have some sort of place to live? Maybe I don't know the system well enough because I was fortunate to have parents whom worked for a living, however It was still all up to me once I became an adult. Also I went college with plenty of people who grew up with less means then me. Guess what happened to them? They either dropped out due to laziness or finished like me and now don't have to pay nearly as much as I do in student loans.... Seems everything works out for people that are willing to put in effort.
Take all of your questions and go volunteer – you'll learn more than you ever expected about this issue and you'll be there to help move it in a positive direction.
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1/11/2018 8:28am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2018 8:29am
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She passed and guy was left with nothing. Too prideful to get help but he says he is his own man and nobody owes him anything and he owes nobody anything.so he lives on the streets begging for food or whatever. This shit can happen to any of us and but for the grace of god go US.
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1/11/2018 8:34am
BobbyM wrote:
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She...
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She passed and guy was left with nothing. Too prideful to get help but he says he is his own man and nobody owes him anything and he owes nobody anything.so he lives on the streets begging for food or whatever. This shit can happen to any of us and but for the grace of god go US.
So he choose to be homeless and is content. Doesn't sound like he needs help
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1/11/2018 8:34am
billyp330 wrote:
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but...
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but someone please educate me on how in a free country that offers plenty of government programs and job opportunities, education programs, etc, how one can not find enough means to at least feed themselves and have some sort of place to live? Maybe I don't know the system well enough because I was fortunate to have parents whom worked for a living, however It was still all up to me once I became an adult. Also I went college with plenty of people who grew up with less means then me. Guess what happened to them? They either dropped out due to laziness or finished like me and now don't have to pay nearly as much as I do in student loans.... Seems everything works out for people that are willing to put in effort.
Plenty of ways to become homeless. Plenty of people also choose to be homeless. Believe it or not, some people think its cool and pursue that lifestyle.. Go get a few cups of fresh coffee, talk to a few homeless people and ask them their story. Heck, take a homeless guy a burger or two and sit down with him & have a meal.. They're people. If you want to be educated on it, go educate yourself.

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My wife and I met him in Seattle. Super cool, friendly dude.
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1/11/2018 8:47am
BobbyM wrote:
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She...
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She passed and guy was left with nothing. Too prideful to get help but he says he is his own man and nobody owes him anything and he owes nobody anything.so he lives on the streets begging for food or whatever. This shit can happen to any of us and but for the grace of god go US.
This is a familiar story in HB. Guy grows up middle-class and never leaves home. Gets a job bagging groceries so he can surf mornings. Pops dies and son takes care of Mom. Mom dies and son inherits house (likely Mom's only inheritable asset). Son has no job (i.e. funds) and cannot pay property taxes. House gets auctioned and son is on the streets.

Just when a man thinks he has it all......

Stay humble, BillyP, stay humble.
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1/11/2018 8:52am
Take all of your questions and go volunteer – you'll learn more than you ever expected about this issue and you'll be there to help move it...
Take all of your questions and go volunteer – you'll learn more than you ever expected about this issue and you'll be there to help move it in a positive direction.
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just don't get why people feel like this is such a huge issue and think its everyone's duty to help these people when really those people choose that life. I know some had tragedies and what not and I feel empathy and compassion for those issues, however them living on the street and begging for food isn't a requirement. Horrible things happen to good people all the time and its really sad. Some things are totally out of our control and for people that have those horrible things happen to them is very unfortunate and they have my most sincere condolences. People that make poor choices and choose to live in a box don't necessarily have my concern. Just my opinion and to each his/her own.
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1/11/2018 8:57am
billyp330 wrote:
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but...
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but someone please educate me on how in a free country that offers plenty of government programs and job opportunities, education programs, etc, how one can not find enough means to at least feed themselves and have some sort of place to live? Maybe I don't know the system well enough because I was fortunate to have parents whom worked for a living, however It was still all up to me once I became an adult. Also I went college with plenty of people who grew up with less means then me. Guess what happened to them? They either dropped out due to laziness or finished like me and now don't have to pay nearly as much as I do in student loans.... Seems everything works out for people that are willing to put in effort.
Donovan759 wrote:
Plenty of ways to become homeless. Plenty of people also choose to be homeless. Believe it or not, some people think its cool and pursue that...
Plenty of ways to become homeless. Plenty of people also choose to be homeless. Believe it or not, some people think its cool and pursue that lifestyle.. Go get a few cups of fresh coffee, talk to a few homeless people and ask them their story. Heck, take a homeless guy a burger or two and sit down with him & have a meal.. They're people. If you want to be educated on it, go educate yourself.
That's what I did. Was wondering
how he got into that situation
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Take all of your questions and go volunteer – you'll learn more than you ever expected about this issue and you'll be there to help move it...
Take all of your questions and go volunteer – you'll learn more than you ever expected about this issue and you'll be there to help move it in a positive direction.
billyp330 wrote:
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just...
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just don't get why people feel like this is such a huge issue and think its everyone's duty to help these people when really those people choose that life. I know some had tragedies and what not and I feel empathy and compassion for those issues, however them living on the street and begging for food isn't a requirement. Horrible things happen to good people all the time and its really sad. Some things are totally out of our control and for people that have those horrible things happen to them is very unfortunate and they have my most sincere condolences. People that make poor choices and choose to live in a box don't necessarily have my concern. Just my opinion and to each his/her own.
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
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1/11/2018 9:15am
BobbyM wrote:
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
You're wasting your time BobbyM. Logic doesn't appeal to Vitards.
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1/11/2018 9:22am
billyp330 wrote:
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but...
I always wondered how its possible to become homeless in the USA unless you are just lazy. I know I'll probably get blasted for this but someone please educate me on how in a free country that offers plenty of government programs and job opportunities, education programs, etc, how one can not find enough means to at least feed themselves and have some sort of place to live? Maybe I don't know the system well enough because I was fortunate to have parents whom worked for a living, however It was still all up to me once I became an adult. Also I went college with plenty of people who grew up with less means then me. Guess what happened to them? They either dropped out due to laziness or finished like me and now don't have to pay nearly as much as I do in student loans.... Seems everything works out for people that are willing to put in effort.
Take all of your questions and go volunteer – you'll learn more than you ever expected about this issue and you'll be there to help move it...
Take all of your questions and go volunteer – you'll learn more than you ever expected about this issue and you'll be there to help move it in a positive direction.
Who let you out of Non Moto?
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1/11/2018 9:34am
billyp330 wrote:
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just...
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just don't get why people feel like this is such a huge issue and think its everyone's duty to help these people when really those people choose that life. I know some had tragedies and what not and I feel empathy and compassion for those issues, however them living on the street and begging for food isn't a requirement. Horrible things happen to good people all the time and its really sad. Some things are totally out of our control and for people that have those horrible things happen to them is very unfortunate and they have my most sincere condolences. People that make poor choices and choose to live in a box don't necessarily have my concern. Just my opinion and to each his/her own.
And reaffirming the points once again:

1) Higher education dosen’t necessarily constitute common sense
2) The internet is a cesspool for trolls

Props to Hanny, awesome to see our sport giving back.
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BobPA wrote:
Who let you out of Non Moto?
... I got a day pass.
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1/11/2018 10:06am
BobbyM wrote:
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
Donovan759 wrote:
You're wasting your time BobbyM. Logic doesn't appeal to Vitards.
Please explain how what I said was illogical? Please give me a logical explanation of what keeps a homeless person homeless other then their own aspirations.
1/11/2018 10:11am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2018 10:20am
In the amount of time someone spends judging any hungry person and whether their hunger should be justifiable, I could probably make three sammiches to share around.

...I don't know, that timing may be off. But, either way, good on Hanny for sammich delivery.

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1/11/2018 10:28am
billyp330 wrote:
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just...
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just don't get why people feel like this is such a huge issue and think its everyone's duty to help these people when really those people choose that life. I know some had tragedies and what not and I feel empathy and compassion for those issues, however them living on the street and begging for food isn't a requirement. Horrible things happen to good people all the time and its really sad. Some things are totally out of our control and for people that have those horrible things happen to them is very unfortunate and they have my most sincere condolences. People that make poor choices and choose to live in a box don't necessarily have my concern. Just my opinion and to each his/her own.
Premix wrote:
And reaffirming the points once again: 1) Higher education dosen’t necessarily constitute common sense 2) The internet is a cesspool for trolls Props to Hanny, awesome...
And reaffirming the points once again:

1) Higher education dosen’t necessarily constitute common sense
2) The internet is a cesspool for trolls

Props to Hanny, awesome to see our sport giving back.
I agree with you're points, however fail to see how it applies to my comments. Maybe I can use a moto analogy to help with my points. Lets say you are in a race and you crash. Maybe the crash was you're own mistake, maybe it was due to someone else, or maybe it was just plain bad luck. So you loose this race due to the crash. Next week there is another race. Do you get back up and try harder? Or do you just give up and never race again? If you choose to race that next race or not depends on you. How the crash occurred is completely irrelevant to that decision. It's purely based on you're own priorities and motivations. Now some will argue "we what if you are parlayed in the crash!". For those please go talk to Doug Henry or CP377 or several others who have overcome their disabilities. My point is there is NO Logical reason for anyone to be homeless as there is always a way to overcome you're misfortunates if you want it bad enough. Want proof? Believe it or not there are several people out there whom were once homeless and now are not. How is this possible??? They actually wanted to change their lifestyle. Same goes for addicts. I'm not saying its super easy and that we shouldn't help these people at all, but to say I lack common sense or am illogical because I want an explanation before I just blindly give my empathy, concern, or money to these people doesn't make any sense to me.
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1/11/2018 10:33am
In the amount of time someone spends judging any hungry person and whether their hunger should be justifiable, I could probably make three sammiches to share...
In the amount of time someone spends judging any hungry person and whether their hunger should be justifiable, I could probably make three sammiches to share around.

...I don't know, that timing may be off. But, either way, good on Hanny for sammich delivery.

this is actually a good point. Guess I just don't care for when people think it should be some kind of national crisis or something. It can be sad but there are worse things in life then not having a roof over your head.
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1/11/2018 10:37am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2018 10:43am
billyp330 wrote:
I agree with you're points, however fail to see how it applies to my comments. Maybe I can use a moto analogy to help with my...
I agree with you're points, however fail to see how it applies to my comments. Maybe I can use a moto analogy to help with my points. Lets say you are in a race and you crash. Maybe the crash was you're own mistake, maybe it was due to someone else, or maybe it was just plain bad luck. So you loose this race due to the crash. Next week there is another race. Do you get back up and try harder? Or do you just give up and never race again? If you choose to race that next race or not depends on you. How the crash occurred is completely irrelevant to that decision. It's purely based on you're own priorities and motivations. Now some will argue "we what if you are parlayed in the crash!". For those please go talk to Doug Henry or CP377 or several others who have overcome their disabilities. My point is there is NO Logical reason for anyone to be homeless as there is always a way to overcome you're misfortunates if you want it bad enough. Want proof? Believe it or not there are several people out there whom were once homeless and now are not. How is this possible??? They actually wanted to change their lifestyle. Same goes for addicts. I'm not saying its super easy and that we shouldn't help these people at all, but to say I lack common sense or am illogical because I want an explanation before I just blindly give my empathy, concern, or money to these people doesn't make any sense to me.
I quit reading after you used “you’re” for your and “loose” for lose.

Whatever college you went to, I’d ask for a refund. In the meantime, stick to topics you have logical arguments to.

MAKE VITAL SMART AGAIN!!
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1/11/2018 10:38am
Good for Hansen to show some compassion and spread the groceries like he did

That homeless camp is a fuggin mess. I’m sure there are a lot of different stories in that shithole and I hope the ones that are not there by choice can find a way to get back in their feet. Some of them are there because that’s all they want out of life. I just wish Cal would use some of that bullshit gas/registration tax or a small part of the billions they will be bringing in for the reefer and build some shelters for these people and try and get them enlisted in some kind of work program.
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1/11/2018 10:41am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2018 10:42am
BobbyM wrote:
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She...
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She passed and guy was left with nothing. Too prideful to get help but he says he is his own man and nobody owes him anything and he owes nobody anything.so he lives on the streets begging for food or whatever. This shit can happen to any of us and but for the grace of god go US.
This is a familiar story in HB. Guy grows up middle-class and never leaves home. Gets a job bagging groceries so he can surf mornings. Pops...
This is a familiar story in HB. Guy grows up middle-class and never leaves home. Gets a job bagging groceries so he can surf mornings. Pops dies and son takes care of Mom. Mom dies and son inherits house (likely Mom's only inheritable asset). Son has no job (i.e. funds) and cannot pay property taxes. House gets auctioned and son is on the streets.

Just when a man thinks he has it all......

Stay humble, BillyP, stay humble.
Could he not sell the house? The foreclosure to aution process takes months with plenty of notification

More times than not it’s avoidable and those that don’t really have a choice is evident (disability) and a much smaller number than what we see...


Good on Hanny though! Thats how I give, directly with goods not money.
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1/11/2018 10:47am Edited Date/Time 1/11/2018 11:34am
Sticky subject for some, many variables, people arrive where they are for too many reasons to consider..or make judgement of, but they are there.

Those that have empathy for them, like our guy Hanny, may deliver the sandwich that brings a homeless person forward with a new attitude and approach to life...or may just get him through the day...either way it's a win.

You can't give empathy, you have it or you don't...lack of empathy isn't a character flaw either, however it may be that one has never been down and out so there is no reference point or ability to put yourself in someone else shoes.

Bobby hit it when he said, there but for the grace of God go I. We're some lucky bastards some of us. I know I am.
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billyp330 wrote:
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just...
My point is I don't believe anyone needs to volunteer for homeless causes unless they just enjoy it. Nothing wrong with that at all. I just don't get why people feel like this is such a huge issue and think its everyone's duty to help these people when really those people choose that life. I know some had tragedies and what not and I feel empathy and compassion for those issues, however them living on the street and begging for food isn't a requirement. Horrible things happen to good people all the time and its really sad. Some things are totally out of our control and for people that have those horrible things happen to them is very unfortunate and they have my most sincere condolences. People that make poor choices and choose to live in a box don't necessarily have my concern. Just my opinion and to each his/her own.
Premix wrote:
And reaffirming the points once again: 1) Higher education dosen’t necessarily constitute common sense 2) The internet is a cesspool for trolls Props to Hanny, awesome...
And reaffirming the points once again:

1) Higher education dosen’t necessarily constitute common sense
2) The internet is a cesspool for trolls

Props to Hanny, awesome to see our sport giving back.
billyp330 wrote:
I agree with you're points, however fail to see how it applies to my comments. Maybe I can use a moto analogy to help with my...
I agree with you're points, however fail to see how it applies to my comments. Maybe I can use a moto analogy to help with my points. Lets say you are in a race and you crash. Maybe the crash was you're own mistake, maybe it was due to someone else, or maybe it was just plain bad luck. So you loose this race due to the crash. Next week there is another race. Do you get back up and try harder? Or do you just give up and never race again? If you choose to race that next race or not depends on you. How the crash occurred is completely irrelevant to that decision. It's purely based on you're own priorities and motivations. Now some will argue "we what if you are parlayed in the crash!". For those please go talk to Doug Henry or CP377 or several others who have overcome their disabilities. My point is there is NO Logical reason for anyone to be homeless as there is always a way to overcome you're misfortunates if you want it bad enough. Want proof? Believe it or not there are several people out there whom were once homeless and now are not. How is this possible??? They actually wanted to change their lifestyle. Same goes for addicts. I'm not saying its super easy and that we shouldn't help these people at all, but to say I lack common sense or am illogical because I want an explanation before I just blindly give my empathy, concern, or money to these people doesn't make any sense to me.
Or you blow yer brains out because of drug addiction and you lose it.
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1/11/2018 11:01am
BobbyM wrote:
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She...
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She passed and guy was left with nothing. Too prideful to get help but he says he is his own man and nobody owes him anything and he owes nobody anything.so he lives on the streets begging for food or whatever. This shit can happen to any of us and but for the grace of god go US.
Bobby telling it right, again.
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1/11/2018 11:08am
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I quit reading after you used “you’re” for your and “loose” for lose. Whatever college you went to, I’d ask for a refund. In the meantime...
I quit reading after you used “you’re” for your and “loose” for lose.

Whatever college you went to, I’d ask for a refund. In the meantime, stick to topics you have logical arguments to.

MAKE VITAL SMART AGAIN!!
I'll try hard for that refund and I'm sure since you say I need one that's all they will need to hear.

People like you are so irritating. You fail to give any reasoning or may I say? LOGIC, to your arguments and instead try to pass the focus on to petty little mistakes in my comments in an attempt to invalidate my opinion. All you do is make yourself seem like an A-hole and ruin an otherwise fairly intellectual and respectful debate.
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1/11/2018 11:27am
BobbyM wrote:
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She...
Guy I met had a sickly mom... Missed work trying to take care of her. Marriage collapsed and was fired. Still took care of mom. She passed and guy was left with nothing. Too prideful to get help but he says he is his own man and nobody owes him anything and he owes nobody anything.so he lives on the streets begging for food or whatever. This shit can happen to any of us and but for the grace of god go US.
This is a familiar story in HB. Guy grows up middle-class and never leaves home. Gets a job bagging groceries so he can surf mornings. Pops...
This is a familiar story in HB. Guy grows up middle-class and never leaves home. Gets a job bagging groceries so he can surf mornings. Pops dies and son takes care of Mom. Mom dies and son inherits house (likely Mom's only inheritable asset). Son has no job (i.e. funds) and cannot pay property taxes. House gets auctioned and son is on the streets.

Just when a man thinks he has it all......

Stay humble, BillyP, stay humble.
brocster wrote:
Could he not sell the house? The foreclosure to aution process takes months with plenty of notification More times than not it’s avoidable and those that...
Could he not sell the house? The foreclosure to aution process takes months with plenty of notification

More times than not it’s avoidable and those that don’t really have a choice is evident (disability) and a much smaller number than what we see...


Good on Hanny though! Thats how I give, directly with goods not money.
Might have been during the downturn when the house was less valuable then the mortgage. Many people here ride without health insurance which if and when injury sets in yer fucked. We don't know everybody's story so we don't know. I lost my leg at 18. I went from a fast good looking rider to an amputee in 2 weeks. The way people saw and treated me just because I was on crutches with my left leg missing as opposed to two weeks earlier was astounding. Granted I didn't have a lot of girlfriends before that but the way many girls treated me and assumed who I was and what I was all about damn near floored me. But I did get a lot of sympathy tail so I can't complain. What's funny is when I started not giving a fuck and started wearing shorts because it was so much easier and I exuded that don't give a shit attitude i had more pooter than I could ask for and it shaped my attitude for the rest if my life for the better. How or why I made it through to the other side I'll never know but that change in mindframe helped incredibly.
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need2ride wrote:
That's a good gesture and all but this is part of the reason they never try and better themselves.
BobbyM wrote:
How the fuck do you know? Lumping everybody together for no reason other than illogical thinking is pretty douchey.
TeamGreen wrote:
For The Record...Bobby is one of ours...He's Nor-Cal FOREVER. As to other subjects brought up in here... There IS a huge f'n problem with how The...
For The Record...Bobby is one of ours...He's Nor-Cal FOREVER.

As to other subjects brought up in here...

There IS a huge f'n problem with how The State of California, Orange County, The City of Anaheim and the local community have ALLOWED THIS MADNESS to exist...to EXPAND...to continue. That trail is UNSAFE and UNUSABLE. Which is pathetic.

So, how that has F'all to do with Hanny taking some hungry folks a meal? Well, that's where you've lost me.

Josh, still stoked and waiting for you to get some more time on your new scoot...and Get Back IN IT!
Manny save me a beer at Phoenix. Be great to see and talk to you and DC and the rest of the crew.
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1/11/2018 12:13pm Edited Date/Time 1/11/2018 12:23pm
BobbyM wrote:
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
Donovan759 wrote:
You're wasting your time BobbyM. Logic doesn't appeal to Vitards.
billyp330 wrote:
Please explain how what I said was illogical? Please give me a logical explanation of what keeps a homeless person homeless other then their own aspirations.
1st, I didn't say that "what you said was illogical." I said "logic doesn't appeal to Vitards" aka you.

2nd. You ask a question. You asked for someone to "please educate you" ... Multiple people "educate you", which is what you asked for. Then you respond with ignorant statements like "So he choose to be homeless and is content. Doesn't sound like he needs help".

In what way does that show you have an interest in learning something?

Edit: I didn't answer your second question. What keeps a homeless person homeless other than their own aspirations is jail. It is illegal for a homeless person to be sleeping on public property. They have to do things like urinate in public. They get in fights to protect their territory. They use drugs to numb the pain of hunger. Sooner or later they get put in jail for an offense which is time they cant be working toward a job.

2. No one wants to hire an obviously homeless person. And as much as you'd like to think they have closets to put their suits in for job interviews... well... Maybe you still think they have those under bridges.

3. Being unqualified for current positions due to a changed workplace environment, a reason some people get fired, and as I'm sure you probably cant understand, flipping burgers at mcdonalds won't pay for many home situations.

Now. I'm sure, if you're stupid enough to read this, which wouldn't be surprising, you will have a rebuttal. That's fine. Cause all of this is going to get deleted. And with that being said....

Go Hanny. You rock for doing what you did and feeding those people. I'm sure you impacted their lives and maybe gave some of them the energy to go out and get a job working at Apple in the corporate offices.. Because miracles happen every day. And because sandwiches give your body energy to do the things.
1/11/2018 12:31pm
billyp330 wrote:
I'll try hard for that refund and I'm sure since you say I need one that's all they will need to hear. People like you are...
I'll try hard for that refund and I'm sure since you say I need one that's all they will need to hear.

People like you are so irritating. You fail to give any reasoning or may I say? LOGIC, to your arguments and instead try to pass the focus on to petty little mistakes in my comments in an attempt to invalidate my opinion. All you do is make yourself seem like an A-hole and ruin an otherwise fairly intellectual and respectful debate.
Here's some logic,
"lack of empathy isn't a character flaw either, however it may be that one has never been down and out so there is no reference point or ability to put yourself in someone else shoes."

I'm going to say it is a flaw though as empathy brings the community/civilisation up as a whole.
Billy P, you have obviously been blessed with the parents and upbringing you got. Some aren't so lucky. Say you were born to a non-white single mother in a shit neighbourhood who's had to do what ever it took just to feed you and the rest and got a boyfriend move in with you and he sexually assalts you from a young age growing up? And castrates you mentally so you wont tell his dirty little secret. Who's going to teach you those things in life about getting ahead if they don't know themselves. How you going to have a positive attitude in life when mother went to work, so did her boyfriend on you?
Bet you went to church and everything and never took heed of some of the messages. Or you went to one of those chuches which are all about money, not faith.
You really need to get out of the gated community you seem to live and as said here, get down and talk to some of these folk. You might be supprised where these people fell from and sometimes in life, multiple hits keep knocking you down to the point of "why the fuck?"
If you don't want to leave the confines of your castle and AC, here's a really interesting TV series to watch if you dare that takes actually born wealthy and self made people and puts them on the streets with just a change of clothes from a thrift shop. Most of the people in the show had your attitude. It's quite shocking some of the outcomes.
https://www.sbs.com.au/programs/filthy-rich-and-homeless
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1/11/2018 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 1/11/2018 12:41pm
billyp330 wrote:
I'll try hard for that refund and I'm sure since you say I need one that's all they will need to hear. People like you are...
I'll try hard for that refund and I'm sure since you say I need one that's all they will need to hear.

People like you are so irritating. You fail to give any reasoning or may I say? LOGIC, to your arguments and instead try to pass the focus on to petty little mistakes in my comments in an attempt to invalidate my opinion. All you do is make yourself seem like an A-hole and ruin an otherwise fairly intellectual and respectful debate.
Here's some logic, "lack of empathy isn't a character flaw either, however it may be that one has never been down and out so there is...
Here's some logic,
"lack of empathy isn't a character flaw either, however it may be that one has never been down and out so there is no reference point or ability to put yourself in someone else shoes."

I'm going to say it is a flaw though as empathy brings the community/civilisation up as a whole.
Billy P, you have obviously been blessed with the parents and upbringing you got. Some aren't so lucky. Say you were born to a non-white single mother in a shit neighbourhood who's had to do what ever it took just to feed you and the rest and got a boyfriend move in with you and he sexually assalts you from a young age growing up? And castrates you mentally so you wont tell his dirty little secret. Who's going to teach you those things in life about getting ahead if they don't know themselves. How you going to have a positive attitude in life when mother went to work, so did her boyfriend on you?
Bet you went to church and everything and never took heed of some of the messages. Or you went to one of those chuches which are all about money, not faith.
You really need to get out of the gated community you seem to live and as said here, get down and talk to some of these folk. You might be supprised where these people fell from and sometimes in life, multiple hits keep knocking you down to the point of "why the fuck?"
If you don't want to leave the confines of your castle and AC, here's a really interesting TV series to watch if you dare that takes actually born wealthy and self made people and puts them on the streets with just a change of clothes from a thrift shop. Most of the people in the show had your attitude. It's quite shocking some of the outcomes.
https://www.sbs.com.au/programs/filthy-rich-and-homeless
“Non white mother?”

What does color have to do with it? I would say the majority of the homeless here in San Diego are white
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1/11/2018 12:43pm
BobbyM wrote:
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
Donovan759 wrote:
You're wasting your time BobbyM. Logic doesn't appeal to Vitards.
billyp330 wrote:
Please explain how what I said was illogical? Please give me a logical explanation of what keeps a homeless person homeless other then their own aspirations.
It's called mental illness and substance abuse issues... one isn't a choice, the other started with a choice and turned in to an illness. I believe the highest majority of homelessness is caused from these 2 conditions. It's unfortunate that the "me" generation can't see past the end of their noses to understand and have some compassion for their fellow man. For most I doubt that it is an issue with their work ethic nor is it a personal choice for them.

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