Ped thread moved

colintrax wrote:

I'm just trying to point out to him why people would say he's bought.

GuyB wrote:

I’m waiting for the timeline on who I’m controlled by and how.

I think I may have an idea of what is behind thi$.

TriggerWarned wrote:

Dawg, do some self-analysis. It doesn't take years of lurking to identify your bias and preferences for which topics are OK to discuss and what is...

Dawg, do some self-analysis.

It doesn't take years of lurking to identify your bias and preferences for which topics are OK to discuss and what is off-limits.

Whether you want to admit it or not you hold a lot of power in that you (and your team) can censor one of the only online discussion forums for MX. You can discredit or reinforce a topic/user simply with a click.

I'm not saying you are controlled - I'm saying you are influenced by your own bias which, if you asking us for a timeline on, you either are unaware of or do not wish to admit in public.

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think people use their own confirmation bias when coming to the conclusion that GuyB is "biased". They desperately want to believe it, so they feel...

I think people use their own confirmation bias when coming to the conclusion that GuyB is "biased". They desperately want to believe it, so they feel validated when he doesn't report provocative rumors and innuendo.

I don't think that anyone at Vital has claimed to be hardcore investigative journalists, yet people get up in arms because they aren't..........

GuyB wrote:

I’m waiting for the timeline on who I’m controlled by and how.

I think I may have an idea of what is behind thi$.

colintrax wrote:

Gibby you make your living from this sport, and largely because you get special privileges the mass does not. DC isn't going to give me a...

Gibby you make your living from this sport, and largely because you get special privileges the mass does not. DC isn't going to give me a media pass. Feld isn't going to give me a media pass. The pros don't want to do an interview with me. Kawasaki isnt gonna roll out ET3 bike for me to take pictures of.
So sure, you might push some boundaries and piss some people off from time to time. But at the end of the day you're not going to do something that'll get you blacklisted, or atleast we assume you wont. And to be fair, I'd prefer you dont. Jeff can get himself blacklisted for the good of the sport, but who replaces vital? Pulp?

Jamal#440 wrote:

Jeff, was your brother ever on anything? Thats the only way he could have possibly survived that Redbud crash, and fortunately he did.

GuyB wrote:

I’m waiting for the timeline on who I’m controlled by and how.

I think I may have an idea of what is behind thi$.

colintrax wrote:

Gibby you make your living from this sport, and largely because you get special privileges the mass does not. DC isn't going to give me a...

Gibby you make your living from this sport, and largely because you get special privileges the mass does not. DC isn't going to give me a media pass. Feld isn't going to give me a media pass. The pros don't want to do an interview with me. Kawasaki isnt gonna roll out ET3 bike for me to take pictures of.
So sure, you might push some boundaries and piss some people off from time to time. But at the end of the day you're not going to do something that'll get you blacklisted, or atleast we assume you wont. And to be fair, I'd prefer you dont. Jeff can get himself blacklisted for the good of the sport, but who replaces vital? Pulp?

Tuna wrote:

Thumpertalk.

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think people use their own confirmation bias when coming to the conclusion that GuyB is "biased". They desperately want to believe it, so they feel...

I think people use their own confirmation bias when coming to the conclusion that GuyB is "biased". They desperately want to believe it, so they feel validated when he doesn't report provocative rumors and innuendo.

I don't think that anyone at Vital has claimed to be hardcore investigative journalists, yet people get up in arms because they aren't..........

Hut wrote:

Agreed!

neverwas wrote:

Jeff,you're a little late to the party. Testing is in place and being used,is it perfect, No,but its what we have at the moment,and is used...

Jeff,you're a little late to the party. Testing is in place and being used,is it perfect, No,but its what we have at the moment,and is used by many major sports.
You naming names of past use is not going to get a better testing system.
So what is your real goal,to trash some people you are bitter with?
We all know it has happened and is happening at some level.

danman wrote:

I'm not defending JA in any way, but he has one very valid point. There are issues that need to be dealt with. For years, there...

I'm not defending JA in any way, but he has one very valid point. There are issues that need to be dealt with.
For years, there has been talk of a Riders union. Why has this never materialized? Why are there only 5-10 guys making a decent living in the sport? Do the riders have a say in the track design(real question)? I'd love to see if where the payouts are doubled/tripled from where they are now and 20-30 guys could make a living, but until the riders and teams stand up to the promoters, that's not going to happen. This being said, I have no idea what the promoters make, but the payouts seem WAY too small when you look at a 50,000 seat stadium being sold out and the minimum ticket price is $75-$100.
As for the PED's, everyone knows they are there and they have a good testing process in place. What more can you do?
My recommendation to JA on this topic. It's fine if you are going to put proof out there of the people doing it, but you damn well better have a recommendation in place to fix the problem! It may not be a good one, but the process they have in place is the best we have right now. If you don't have a fix, you look like a little whiny snot that didn't get his way.

Just my $.02.

Rhino wrote:

Some asthma meds need a TUE also. Why? Because some in PED dosages, are very effective in numerous ways. If the doctor states you need XXX...

Some asthma meds need a TUE also. Why? Because some in PED dosages, are very effective in numerous ways. If the doctor states you need XXX amount, well, now it's a legal PED. Who's to say a real therapeutic dose is one amount or the other since everyone is different?

Same for speed, Brand name Adderall.

It's a flawed system leaving many many loopholes for legally cheating.

Some in MMA are asking for NO TUEs for anything. Period.
Also, lifetime bans if you fail.

ACBraap wrote:

If there's a problem in the sport that JA is bringing awareness too, it's that homeschooling and betting the farm on making it as an MXer...

If there's a problem in the sport that JA is bringing awareness too, it's that homeschooling and betting the farm on making it as an MXer are poor choices for a parent to make for their children. Good things come from education, such as proper use of grammar, the ability to write clearly and persuasively, the ability to use logic and strategy, and discern fact from fiction, or learning how to research and verify facts.

huck wrote:

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Just saying....

huck wrote:

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Just saying....

ACBraap wrote:

I can't even blame a lack of education, just being sloppy in haste.

huck wrote:

After reading 28 combined pages (and counting) of the PED debacle...it's hard two ( ) think straight...

GuyB wrote:

^^^ howm-skulled.

ACBraap wrote:

If there's a problem in the sport that JA is bringing awareness too, it's that homeschooling and betting the farm on making it as an MXer...

If there's a problem in the sport that JA is bringing awareness too, it's that homeschooling and betting the farm on making it as an MXer are poor choices for a parent to make for their children. Good things come from education, such as proper use of grammar, the ability to write clearly and persuasively, the ability to use logic and strategy, and discern fact from fiction, or learning how to research and verify facts.

huck wrote:

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Just saying....

Jrewing wrote:

Is this a record for GuyB posting in a dumbgen thread?

NorCal 50+ wrote:

I don't get the hostility toward Jeff Alessi. Why not listen to what he has to say instead of acting like a bunch of taunting schoolyard...

I don't get the hostility toward Jeff Alessi. Why not listen to what he has to say instead of acting like a bunch of taunting schoolyard bullies? You will find in modern America, anybody that steps out of the mainstream narrative of reality (yes, created by the media) will quickly be attacked. Give the dude a break- I am pretty sure he know more than the random MX keyboard troll.