Why no mookie tomorrow?

10/20/2017 8:25pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Why no Mookie? It's simple. He's too lazy to get off his ass and work to get a ride. Feels entitled to the best rides out...
Why no Mookie? It's simple. He's too lazy to get off his ass and work to get a ride. Feels entitled to the best rides out there while putting no effort.

It doesn't work that way. He might be a Stewart but he's not James. That said James has been gone so long he himself can't expect to get a top tier ride.
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So you know that Mookie is lazy and feels entitled ? What makes you a expert on what it takes to ride at this level on...
So you know that Mookie is lazy and feels entitled ? What makes you a expert on what it takes to ride at this level on your own dime ? Besides the fact that you comment on every topic posted on vital. It's people like you that really crack me up in this sport. LOL
Exactly. People talk like they live with him. Or see what he does everyday. Dude won a SUPERCROSS TITLE. Let me repeat that...a SUPERCROSS TITLE and we have people calling him lazy but we all know nothing about his life
10/20/2017 8:27pm
Maybe it's the entitlement by "fans" that has worn them out? The amount of flack Malc took for taking the summer off to heal up properly, then couldn't sort out a ride after winning a championship and ended up doing it himself and still copped flack. What did Wilson do extra that Malcolm didn't do putting together his own deal that makes Wilson's effort seem so much better to some?
10/20/2017 8:29pm
Maybe it's the entitlement by "fans" that has worn them out? The amount of flack Malc took for taking the summer off to heal up properly...
Maybe it's the entitlement by "fans" that has worn them out? The amount of flack Malc took for taking the summer off to heal up properly, then couldn't sort out a ride after winning a championship and ended up doing it himself and still copped flack. What did Wilson do extra that Malcolm didn't do putting together his own deal that makes Wilson's effort seem so much better to some?
He’s not a stewart. Just the name alone brings so much hatred. Sad but true
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10/20/2017 8:38pm
Has anyone thought that maybe.... just maybe... he doesn't expect a factory ride? Maybe he wants to live his life and just ride and not race?? Who the hell knows. Not you or i. The dude doesn't owe us or his sponsors anything he's not legally obligated to.

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10/20/2017 8:42pm
Soooo in reality what did james do to deserve so much hate? He’s been racing for years and years and years. Made a ton of money...
Soooo in reality what did james do to deserve so much hate? He’s been racing for years and years and years. Made a ton of money and won a ton of races. Anyone that was lucky enough to see him ride should
Be thanking him. So everyone hates him because he didn’t go on Instagram and give us an update? You don’t think he’s thanked his sponsors in person? You guys think the only way to thank someone is over the Internet? He don’t owe us fans anything we owe him the biggest thank you for his insane talents. We won’t see another stew for a while
That's where most will disagree with you. It would have been great if James just came out and thanked his true fans for sticking with him but he's calling it a career. If James had done that then his career and accolades would be being celebrated to this day. Instead he's dropped off without a word. That understandably upsets his fans. The thing with professional athletes is either you love or hate that certain athlete during their career. Once they retire most people stop the hatred and simply appreciate everything they did in the sport. Think of Carmichael. A lot of people didn't like him simply because he was so dominant. Once he retired the hate stopped and everyone appreciated what he had done. With the way James has treated this whole situation he may never gain the respect of the moto community back. You probably won't agree with that, but it's the way most will feel.

Malcolm? Who knows. He may put a deal together at the last minute again and show up at A1, put in nice lap times and finish 15th to 20th.
10/20/2017 9:18pm Edited Date/Time 10/20/2017 9:19pm
James doesnt owe us shit given the way he left the sport something happened whether it was the constant abuse from fans of the sport or the ADHD.

If he left the sport happy we would still be hearing from him.

I sense there is beef between the AMA and the Stewarts for whatever reason that might be... Malcom may not be the most commuted rider/worker out there however after winning a SX title you should be getting a 450f factory ride thats GENERALLY how the game goes,,, E,G is AC won the SX lites this year he'd be on a factory ride next season.

Malcom isnt the most motivated guy him not getting a ride after the SX Championship surely that is heart breaking/demotivating.

The more I see it the less I envy being famous.
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10/20/2017 9:50pm
It sucks Mookie is not out there, he brings a lot to the sport IMO. He is unique and doesn't seem to be the same old same old. He should be just as marketable as James but something went off the rails I guess.
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10/20/2017 11:23pm
As long as we are all speculating... what if James has some serious head injury. I have serious issues from a concussion from ten years ago and I know he has had more and worse head injuries than I. And if he comes out and says "hey, I have major issues from racing", then that would hurt the sport. Again this is pure speculation but come on guys, what if there is more going on than what our little minds can think of. it would also make sense why Malcom wouldn't want to risk his dome for 100k.
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10/20/2017 11:47pm Edited Date/Time 10/20/2017 11:49pm
http://youtu.be/vKX1MWD1mj0
Bear in mind that this video does not include his 125 supercross crash (vegas??) or the crash when his kx450 locked up at southwick or when dungey hit him or when he went over the bars at high point or when he cartwheeled over the tough blocks at Daytona or numerous other crashes. It is very selfish for you guys to say he owes you anything. He gave his life to this sport and will have lasting effects to his brain because of it. I hope that he is able to enjoy life despite his numerous tbi's because I know my few tbi's effect my quality of life.

Miss you James and Malcom.
Hope you are enjoying yourselves
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10/20/2017 11:53pm
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Why no Mookie? It's simple. He's too lazy to get off his ass and work to get a ride. Feels entitled to the best rides out...
Why no Mookie? It's simple. He's too lazy to get off his ass and work to get a ride. Feels entitled to the best rides out there while putting no effort.

It doesn't work that way. He might be a Stewart but he's not James. That said James has been gone so long he himself can't expect to get a top tier ride.
mb60 wrote:
So you know that Mookie is lazy and feels entitled ? What makes you a expert on what it takes to ride at this level on...
So you know that Mookie is lazy and feels entitled ? What makes you a expert on what it takes to ride at this level on your own dime ? Besides the fact that you comment on every topic posted on vital. It's people like you that really crack me up in this sport. LOL
Exactly. People talk like they live with him. Or see what he does everyday. Dude won a SUPERCROSS TITLE. Let me repeat that...a SUPERCROSS TITLE and...
Exactly. People talk like they live with him. Or see what he does everyday. Dude won a SUPERCROSS TITLE. Let me repeat that...a SUPERCROSS TITLE and we have people calling him lazy but we all know nothing about his life
Regional title.

Guy races 8 races a year and can't be bothered to put in an effort for the rest of the year and you guys are surprised he doesn't have a ride. That's just laughable.

Meanwhile some privateers with much less connections and funding/budgets manage to put programs together for the entire year.

He can't be bothered to return MCR's calls for a month. Is he that busy that he can't pick up his phone for 5 minutes when they're reaching out to him for a ride? Please. That's just poor business. MCR have shown that they run a legit program. Is he so above them that they don't deserve a little bit of courtesy? Don't think so. He finally got back to them via text. Real professional on his part.

Definition of lazy: unwilling to work or use energy.

Listen we can't all be Stewart nut huggers.
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10/21/2017 12:07am
Maybe it's the entitlement by "fans" that has worn them out? The amount of flack Malc took for taking the summer off to heal up properly...
Maybe it's the entitlement by "fans" that has worn them out? The amount of flack Malc took for taking the summer off to heal up properly, then couldn't sort out a ride after winning a championship and ended up doing it himself and still copped flack. What did Wilson do extra that Malcolm didn't do putting together his own deal that makes Wilson's effort seem so much better to some?
There's no denying that both Wilson and Malcolm put together their own program but here's where the difference is.

Dean put a program that included a couple bikes, some parts, a sprinter van with his dad as the mechanic.

Malcolm put a program together that included bikes, parts, an 18 wheeler, staff and then said it costs a lot to put your own program together. Sure it costs a lot to put your own program together at the level these guy's race but did he really need a semi and a lot of staff? No. His results would of been the same had he done things on a much smaller scale like Wilson. The money he would of saved could of helped him get to some outdoor rounds and prove his worth.
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10/21/2017 12:19am
James does nt owe the fans anything .His past sponsors is a different story . I think he owes them alot . I think the way he has conducted himself with his sponsors over the years ,has been very poor . Not turning up to place s when he was ment to .breaking contracts .etc etc .I think this is mookies biggest problem when it come s to getting a ride ,nobody wants to deal with all the drama . even though his lack of effort is a big problem too !

imo , no factory team will ever offer james a ride again even if he was fit and wanting to ride. After yoshi suzuki stood by him when he got banned , (which most teams would have fired him) He rewarded them by not bothering his ass to get ready or even fit . that was the last burt bridge ,big time .
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10/21/2017 12:23am
He has a bass tournament, lol.
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10/21/2017 12:42am
Exactly. People talk like they live with him. Or see what he does everyday. Dude won a SUPERCROSS TITLE. Let me repeat that...a SUPERCROSS TITLE and...
Exactly. People talk like they live with him. Or see what he does everyday. Dude won a SUPERCROSS TITLE. Let me repeat that...a SUPERCROSS TITLE and we have people calling him lazy but we all know nothing about his life
imo had mookie been fit last year he would have a ride now . Fitness is the easiest thing to get in pro Sx . its just hard work .the Talent is the hard bit. (which mookie has ) .most teams just want a rider to give 100% . and would rather sponsor a guy giving 110% than a guy really not putting in the effort . if mookie really really wanted a ride all he had to do was do two outdoors at the end of the year ,and turn up in the best shape he had ever been in . imo he would have a ride after the race . even if teams are afraid to because of james
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10/21/2017 1:09am
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He is quoting Mike Genova of Motoconcepts, who stated that earlier this week.
Ah thanks for that, wow....what an opportunity!.
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10/21/2017 1:20am
Barcia does not have a ride that I know of, and he deserves one way more than Mookie.

I think the industry is done with the Stewarts. I get the vibe they have burned a lot of bridges and Mookie clearly has no fire in the belly. Why should anyone waste any money on the Stewarts? Did Mookie ever even race outdoors on a 450? Who wins a 250 champ then is suddenly too good for outdoors?
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10/21/2017 2:02am
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Barcia does not have a ride that I know of, and he deserves one way more than Mookie. I think the industry is done with the...
Barcia does not have a ride that I know of, and he deserves one way more than Mookie.

I think the industry is done with the Stewarts. I get the vibe they have burned a lot of bridges and Mookie clearly has no fire in the belly. Why should anyone waste any money on the Stewarts? Did Mookie ever even race outdoors on a 450? Who wins a 250 champ then is suddenly too good for outdoors?
Malcolm raced a 450 outdoors in 2013 and 2014. He finished 13th overall in 2013 and 16th overall in 2014. He did the full season in 2013 and 7 races in 2014.
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10/21/2017 3:31am
i can see similarites with Justin Hill, won a regional series and expects a factory 450 ride off the back of it.. and it didnt come, and righty so.. a 250SX title where you beat half the guys , at half the races needs to be backed up outdoors, because teams cannot afford to waste a 450 ride on a guy who so far have only done half a season. Hill was a waste of time outdoors because he though he was going to take Grant's ride and had nothing to prove, and he was very wrong, and Kawasaki did the right thing staying with Grant IMO.

Mookie is the only one who thinks he is worth a good 450 ride , because if anyone else did, they would have given him one, Mike Genova has made an offer, which he didnt consider worthy of a reply, and for me , that is why he will sit on the sdielines and end up like his brother, being no longer relevant, but without ever having done something to be properly relevant in the first place.

Wilson's 'bike and van' approach was all that was needed, and it said more about Dean that he was happy to do it like that , than it did for Mookie to rent a big rig, although he probably needed it to carry all the anchors.
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10/21/2017 6:53am Edited Date/Time 10/21/2017 7:46am
I'm a Stewart fan...still, but has anybody noticed that practically every report of them contacting a potential sponsor that Big James seems to be involved? I don't know any of the family, but it's been hinted that a huge reason why some teams are not keen on putting a deal together with either one or both of the brothers is because their Dad is a negotiable part of the package. Big James might be a great guy, and I'm sure both the boys love their Dad...but maybe he needs to set back let these two become men on their own and not be the third rider on Team Stewart. His influence might be hindering them.
10/21/2017 7:32am
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i can see similarites with Justin Hill, won a regional series and expects a factory 450 ride off the back of it.. and it didnt come...
i can see similarites with Justin Hill, won a regional series and expects a factory 450 ride off the back of it.. and it didnt come, and righty so.. a 250SX title where you beat half the guys , at half the races needs to be backed up outdoors, because teams cannot afford to waste a 450 ride on a guy who so far have only done half a season. Hill was a waste of time outdoors because he though he was going to take Grant's ride and had nothing to prove, and he was very wrong, and Kawasaki did the right thing staying with Grant IMO.

Mookie is the only one who thinks he is worth a good 450 ride , because if anyone else did, they would have given him one, Mike Genova has made an offer, which he didnt consider worthy of a reply, and for me , that is why he will sit on the sdielines and end up like his brother, being no longer relevant, but without ever having done something to be properly relevant in the first place.

Wilson's 'bike and van' approach was all that was needed, and it said more about Dean that he was happy to do it like that , than it did for Mookie to rent a big rig, although he probably needed it to carry all the anchors.
Justin Hill did get a factory 450 ride off the back of his regional series win.
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10/21/2017 7:59am
Justin Hill did get a factory 450 ride off the back of his regional series win.
My understanding was that he was doing 250SX with JGR... is that wrong ?
10/21/2017 8:33am
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So you know that Mookie is lazy and feels entitled ? What makes you a expert on what it takes to ride at this level on...
So you know that Mookie is lazy and feels entitled ? What makes you a expert on what it takes to ride at this level on your own dime ? Besides the fact that you comment on every topic posted on vital. It's people like you that really crack me up in this sport. LOL
He had a lot of time to get fit last season ... and his fitness sucked big time , 5 min moto's he was fast , any longer and he faded every time ...at least what you can do as a pro is start fit and healthy , he was far from as the races showed and there was no progress during the seaosn .Talent alone doesnt work on this level , as his results showed average top 15 , for a 250 SX champ . Not surprised he didnt get a ride this year
10/21/2017 8:36am
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My understanding was that he was doing 250SX with JGR... is that wrong ?
It's a 2 year deal, 450 2nd year.
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10/21/2017 9:36am
So many insiders in this thread that I don't know what to believe anymore. Guess people arent allowed to live their own lives anymore.
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10/21/2017 10:36am
philG wrote:
My understanding was that he was doing 250SX with JGR... is that wrong ?
It's a 2 year deal, 450 2nd year.
Yeah i read that since, and remembered what Matthes said about it.. for me if it was a 450 ride , he'd be on it already , and be done with the 250.. he isnt , so being pedantic, i'd say the it isnt a 450 ride yet, and if he doesnt deliver on the 250, it might not ever be one.

Effectively JGR bought the No1 plate for the season, for me he has to retain it, and show speed outdoors to get that 2019 450 spot , over Bogle and Peick.
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10/21/2017 11:19am
Wow that’s amazing considering Malcolm had access to James Yz Parts I’m sure from factory Suzuki and not to mention how majority of racers are on...
Wow that’s amazing considering Malcolm had access to James Yz Parts I’m sure from factory Suzuki and not to mention how majority of racers are on record saying that whites are so good today you could throw your own factory level suspension on their piston and just get with get ignition and you have a bike that’s capable of not only winning races but even likely a championship that is so Lame to continue to blame your bike when it’s constantly been proven that it’s not the case especially if you’re spending his own money in the bike wasn’t good makes me think that either he wasn’t trying to make it better and just start throwing money at it would fix it or he didn’t test enough to figure out what could make the bike better I just smell bullshit here end it seems to me that nothing was trying to ride on the Stewart name coattails a little too hard we hasn’t proven anything except winning A 250 regional title by virtue of a little luck and a lot of skill that year.

As for James and everybody saying he doesn’t owe us anything no he doesn’t physically I was anything but as a courtesy to all the fans that supported his sponsors and his basically career throughout the years if November paid attention to him and he didn’t have any fans he would never have reached the level of stardom and income that he did. So in a roundabout way it would be the right thing to do, just come out and make a statement I’m done or hey ive retired rather than just ignore everybody and leave everybody guessing it’s really a dick move and lacks professionalism from a guy who really wrote the book on being the best in the world on a dirtbike. That doesn’t mean he’s going to be forced to do any interviews even turned on every interview want and I could care less just closing the book on his career in a simple statement hell for all I care could be an Instagram post gives a shit just throw it out there. It’s incredibly frustrating to read people miss interpreting the whole “he doesn’t owe us anything statement” The blisters excuse was stupid and childish as well even Roczen isn’t having those kind of problems with coming back after his injury.
...and not to mention how majority of racers are on record saying that whites are so good today...

Freudian slip?

10/21/2017 12:06pm
Mookie is young, healthy, and wealthy. No reason to ride unless your given the best situation which, I would argue to still not ride. Why risk anything when you are already set for life.
10/21/2017 2:38pm
If only "Heat Race Mookie" from the 2017 SX season would have appeared during the Main Events!

Then he'd have gotten a ride by mid-season!
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10/21/2017 3:37pm Edited Date/Time 10/21/2017 3:45pm
Some of you guys really need to re-read the thread title before responding, instead of getting batshit crazy about JS.

To answer OP's question: We as people with free will can do whatever the hell we want to. If you want to go ride tomorrow, you just go out and fucking ride. Simple as that.
All of the above philosophical thoughts lead me to believe Malcolm didn't feel like riding/racing on that particular day, hence he's not out there Wink

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