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Camp332
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9/5/2017 2:36pm
Camp332 wrote:
What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

peelout wrote:
yada yada yada sloppy seconds
At 21 passing the chics around is normal bruh
9/5/2017 3:16pm
I heard he is struggling with figuring out the bike and doesn't work as hard as most think which has some around him irritated.
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9/5/2017 3:25pm
Being the only guy on the team has weighed heavy, and i think that he really struggles to set a bike up... under the Star tent their is loads of info to pull in, on a Factory team of one, he is the man, and it appears he isnt.

Hope he can stay healthy , and give his best, his step up 450 rides have been his best IMO, now he is a regular, not so much.
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9/5/2017 3:32pm
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9/5/2017 4:15pm
I remember watching the last episode of MX nation last year and they were big on Coop moving up and they cut away to Aldon and he made mention of "we ll see how a pile of money affects a young up and comer" ( in so many words). Kinda funny how thats worked out --maybe. I m a huge Coop fan, between him and AC it's what's brought me into the sport and made me a mega fan of the sport. I'm almost wishing he'd go to KTM and let Aldon and Roger get him straight.
To his inner circle, is Seth Rarick still in there? His circle Seth and Swannie?
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9/5/2017 4:39pm
Camp332 wrote:
What does "trouble within his inner circle" mean?

peelout wrote:
yada yada yada sloppy seconds
OR Racer46 wrote:
Peely. Gets it
So you guys heard Cooper dates someone that someone else used to date on social media, and have concluded that is the reason for his results this year?
And that was super low-class and disrespectful Peelout. It's what a sixth grader would say.
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9/6/2017 1:35pm
Never ever bring your girl to the track.

Not your mom,your soul mate ,or the stripper still in the van from last nite,leave her at the first fast food place on way totrack, its a eightys thing,prob rare today ,scarry to with all the confusion on identity and all.

It would be one hell of a distraction having a girl in my pit that had been with someone i race.
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9/6/2017 5:16pm
coop shouldn't have opened his door as much as he did to his "friends". To many people around him for him tobe the number 1 guy for a OEM. We have mutual friends, and a lot if not all the guys around him are good people, but you can't be a dungy or a villo with a 10 man band following you that has nothing todo with. Dirt bike or being successful on a dirt bike, garrantee that there trainer feels the same. I expect for them to make some changes to there circle and get back on it. He didn't ride horrible this year, hell his rookie season in the 250f class is almost identical. I hope/know he will get back on track.
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9/6/2017 5:27pm
yzjs7 wrote:
Mathes alluded to Cooper not being focused and there being trouble within his inner circle. This is not good nor is it he hurt himself at...
Mathes alluded to Cooper not being focused and there being trouble within his inner circle. This is not good nor is it he hurt himself at the gp. For him to be "the next guy" it's not looking good. Anyone have any more info?
We have mutual friends, they are all good people, no "Jlaw" type guys in his circle, just wayyyy to many people in his circle. we are taking about close to 15 "close friends" around alll the time. That have never been in his position either. Just my 2 cents
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9/6/2017 5:28pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2017 7:57pm
I wouldnt be surprised if his scaphoid never healed. If not, the injury could exacerbate even more so on a 450. Kind of reminds me of what we saw when Ricky Johnson started struggling.

Edit:spelling
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9/6/2017 5:32pm
philG wrote:
Being the only guy on the team has weighed heavy, and i think that he really struggles to set a bike up... under the Star tent...
Being the only guy on the team has weighed heavy, and i think that he really struggles to set a bike up... under the Star tent their is loads of info to pull in, on a Factory team of one, he is the man, and it appears he isnt.

Hope he can stay healthy , and give his best, his step up 450 rides have been his best IMO, now he is a regular, not so much.

Agree.
Coop got a lot of "Learning Experiences" on the tracks. Take the Info to Heart.
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9/6/2017 5:47pm
geusswho wrote:
coop shouldn't have opened his door as much as he did to his "friends". To many people around him for him tobe the number 1 guy...
coop shouldn't have opened his door as much as he did to his "friends". To many people around him for him tobe the number 1 guy for a OEM. We have mutual friends, and a lot if not all the guys around him are good people, but you can't be a dungy or a villo with a 10 man band following you that has nothing todo with. Dirt bike or being successful on a dirt bike, garrantee that there trainer feels the same. I expect for them to make some changes to there circle and get back on it. He didn't ride horrible this year, hell his rookie season in the 250f class is almost identical. I hope/know he will get back on track.
This is exactly the same thing that I have heard. My parents live in Concord, and even though I don't know you, we probably have some mutual friends that live down there. They say the exact same thing that you are saying. A lot of dudes riding his coat tails.
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9/6/2017 5:58pm
CHaynes wrote:
This is exactly the same thing that I have heard. My parents live in Concord, and even though I don't know you, we probably have some...
This is exactly the same thing that I have heard. My parents live in Concord, and even though I don't know you, we probably have some mutual friends that live down there. They say the exact same thing that you are saying. A lot of dudes riding his coat tails.
I'm sure we do, but yes, a lot of guys around him that have never raced a pro race, and if they have wouldn't get inside the top 30. Like I said, his "crew" are all good dudes. The way the "topic" was started you'd think he had some crazy dudes around him, actually it's the opposite lol.
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9/6/2017 5:58pm
rmoto003 wrote:
I wonder if it has anything to do with his bike being completely different than the rest of the bikes out there.... Nah lmao Im just...
I wonder if it has anything to do with his bike being completely different than the rest of the bikes out there....

Nah lmao Im just a hater
no, your just a dumbass
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9/6/2017 6:12pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2017 6:13pm
twotwosix wrote:
Becoming a millionaire at 21 can have an affect on a kid. He literally got his ass kicked all year. Let him get healthy and chew...
Becoming a millionaire at 21 can have an affect on a kid.

He literally got his ass kicked all year. Let him get healthy and chew on what transpired this year. He will be ready to go come A1. I expect to see a different Webb in 2018. He's got 'it'. He just needs to pull it out of himself.

Side note, I'd like to him get a coach who will tell him what is what like Mrs Carmichael or Aldon. It would most likely help with the 450 transition.
fact: i do not know if Cooper webb will ever be great on a 450

fact: Cooper Webb does not know if he will ever be great on a 450

fact: You don't know if Cooper Webb will ever win on a 450


side note; what is what is what? please explain what what is. I'm very curious to hear this abstract, arbitrary, nonsense you think will take Cooper Webb from not winning to winning. I mean, you must have an idea of what what is. you propose it will help his results. how could you know that, if you don't even know what what is?

"what" a pile of nothing your post is. it isn't even opinions, its less that that. its regurgitated sentiment. how about having a real thought, eh?
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9/6/2017 6:28pm
hillbilly wrote:
Never ever bring your girl to the track. Not your mom,your soul mate ,or the stripper still in the van from last nite,leave her at the...
Never ever bring your girl to the track.

Not your mom,your soul mate ,or the stripper still in the van from last nite,leave her at the first fast food place on way totrack, its a eightys thing,prob rare today ,scarry to with all the confusion on identity and all.

It would be one hell of a distraction having a girl in my pit that had been with someone i race.
I agree to a point. A lot of these riders are completely sheltered from "normal" life since the time they were 8 years old though.

I can actually see some positives to having your girl at the race or at practice. It can be counter productive to continue to be sheltered so much. Coop isn't a 15 year old kid anymore who needs to focus every moment on racing. To do so could be a negative at this point. He's a champion and a made man so to speak. Nothing wrong with having a significant other at the track. To think otherwise is nonsense. Every other sport has wives, girlfriends, and even kids at the games. Why should motorcycle racing be different?

Sure, he needs to be focused. But having familiar faces around can help that. If your wife or significant other is your best friend wouldn't you feel more comfortable having your best friend around? Maybe maybe not. Everyone is different but to say it has to be a certain sheltered way is complete crap.

And I don't really buy your last sentence how it would be difficult having a girl at the track who has been with someone else.

You know what? That's life man.

For everyone who isn't married yet you can bet your future wife is dogging it with another man right now.

That's life. Get over it.
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9/6/2017 6:35pm
Dungey was one of the most fit riders in the sport and even he needed aldon to give the structure to his program that he needed. Since coop is the "next big thing" he should be thinking of doing the same maybe in a year or two. I heard that he was trying to get through his rookie year injury free with something to build on and he did that until 1 race after the season. It was a decent first year and now he can improve next year. Jmart was smoking him for a while before he became the man, it seems like it takes him a couple years to acclimate before he gets on a tear.
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9/6/2017 7:18pm
He just needs to go surfing with Sunny and get some quality waves in.
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9/6/2017 7:49pm
I hit it and quit it, you'd rather stay and play...
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9/6/2017 8:05pm
I've heard it was bike setup as well, he wanted to swap forks but Yamaha wouldn't let it happen.
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9/6/2017 8:56pm
hillbilly wrote:
Never ever bring your girl to the track. Not your mom,your soul mate ,or the stripper still in the van from last nite,leave her at the...
Never ever bring your girl to the track.

Not your mom,your soul mate ,or the stripper still in the van from last nite,leave her at the first fast food place on way totrack, its a eightys thing,prob rare today ,scarry to with all the confusion on identity and all.

It would be one hell of a distraction having a girl in my pit that had been with someone i race.
Amen brother.
Had a girl that rode dirt bikes, horses, went camping. Took her to the races a few times, too much distraction, racing is serious business even in the 125 novice class. My Dad was always my best racing companion.
9/6/2017 10:28pm
I've always liked this quote from the insightful mma fighter Nick Diaz when it comes to having a girlfriend/wife around your job, regardless of the job.

“If I have a girlfriend, I don’t bring her to flaunt her. She doesn’t get to reap the benefits of me being famous. Back in the day, a Ninja didn’t have his girlfriend sitting in the tree waiting to kill shit.”
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9/6/2017 10:37pm
I've always liked this quote from the insightful mma fighter Nick Diaz when it comes to having a girlfriend/wife around your job, regardless of the job...
I've always liked this quote from the insightful mma fighter Nick Diaz when it comes to having a girlfriend/wife around your job, regardless of the job.

“If I have a girlfriend, I don’t bring her to flaunt her. She doesn’t get to reap the benefits of me being famous. Back in the day, a Ninja didn’t have his girlfriend sitting in the tree waiting to kill shit.”
Did you just use Diaz and insightful in the same sentence? Just stop lol

There are more top athletes with wives and girlfriends at the games then not. And a lot of these athletes have kids too.

One could argue that Dungey's wife (then girlfriend) had a bigger positive impact late in his career then Aldon ever did. And I bet Dungey would agree.
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9/6/2017 10:45pm
I've heard it was bike setup as well, he wanted to swap forks but Yamaha wouldn't let it happen.
Maybe he should man up and watch Herlings lap him with borrowed bike.
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9/6/2017 11:11pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2017 11:12pm




right here he talks about winning all that shit and not taking a second to appreciate any of it or be happy.







so, factor that in as you would like.
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9/7/2017 12:08am
I've heard it was bike setup as well, he wanted to swap forks but Yamaha wouldn't let it happen.
Well its not like that hasn't happened before ... Weimer at Kawi was the same.
9/7/2017 3:05am
I have been reading all these posts trying not to post simply because we are all just speculating. I for one hope he gets his focus and drive back, when he is on it he is an animal. Sounds like LOTS of distractions in a young mans life. Something tells me his hunger will come back and he will work hard and not have another season like this. Best of luck Cooper!
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9/7/2017 3:08am
same thing thats happening to barcia getting engaged after a couple months.. puppy love kills the results

that and....... its gone to shit since raining yellow jumped on the band wagon.. james is a write off now coop??? please get off coops wagon before we never hear from him again man lol

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