Cdn Moto - $100k payout for 2018

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Edited Date/Time 8/15/2017 1:52pm
And a ton of other changes! If you have the time check out the presser, http://www.ride-motox.com/2017/08/14/jetwerx-press-conference/ it's about 35 min.

If not, here's the coles notes version:

Travel money for teams at factory, satellite, and privateer levels. And a "team incentive program"
Better sound & viewing at tracks.
Better media access - wifi, food, etc
Saturday racing
More outreach - involvement in local visits - schools, hospitals, colleges
Start doing press conferences
VIP areas

And, new for 2018, it's now "Motorcross" and "Superrcross" according to the logos. Unsure






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8/14/2017 2:57pm
Based on the press conference I guess it's pretty much a done deal that Rockstar is pulling their sponsorship from the other series. Unless some big changes I think the regular Canadian MX series is going to struggle next year, with such low purse I can't see many riders wanting to do it.
8/14/2017 3:02pm
Based on the press conference I guess it's pretty much a done deal that Rockstar is pulling their sponsorship from the other series. Unless some big...
Based on the press conference I guess it's pretty much a done deal that Rockstar is pulling their sponsorship from the other series. Unless some big changes I think the regular Canadian MX series is going to struggle next year, with such low purse I can't see many riders wanting to do it.
What's the current purse?
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8/14/2017 3:04pm
100k canadian? So like 10 bucks USD?
8/14/2017 3:09pm
What's the current purse?
I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's something like $600 for a win? Don't quote me on that, though.

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8/14/2017 3:10pm
crowe176 wrote:
100k canadian? So like 10 bucks USD?
Yes, 10 or 78,540. C'mon, man.
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Good:
Purse + incentives
Triple crown concept
Some interesting venues
FIM affiliation

Bad:
No TV announcement
No news on committed teams
TBAs


Battle lines are being drawn, no CMRC venues appear to have swapped over.

So far, I'm not sure that Jetwerx has built such a compelling package that we will see a mass exodus from CMRC.

CMRC's strongest asset has always been their TV production. These guys hint at shopping around a live package that sounds a long ways from a sure thing.

In a perfect world, everyone would get along. We can only hope that whatever comes to be is an improvement.
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8/14/2017 3:18pm
Adam43 wrote:
Good: Purse + incentives Triple crown concept Some interesting venues FIM affiliation Bad: No TV announcement No news on committed teams TBAs Battle lines are being...
Good:
Purse + incentives
Triple crown concept
Some interesting venues
FIM affiliation

Bad:
No TV announcement
No news on committed teams
TBAs


Battle lines are being drawn, no CMRC venues appear to have swapped over.

So far, I'm not sure that Jetwerx has built such a compelling package that we will see a mass exodus from CMRC.

CMRC's strongest asset has always been their TV production. These guys hint at shopping around a live package that sounds a long ways from a sure thing.

In a perfect world, everyone would get along. We can only hope that whatever comes to be is an improvement.
The wording they used was "staying with Conx2share" for the live production.

As far as if/when that production ends up on TV, I seem to recall that being discussed in the original announcement but can't find it now.
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8/14/2017 4:12pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2017 4:12pm
I'm not seeing the "Motorcross" and "Superrcross" typos, where are they? Or...did you quote them and then mis "kwote" them?

Fake noose.
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8/14/2017 4:23pm
byke wrote:
I'm not seeing the "Motorcross" and "Superrcross" typos, where are they? Or...did you quote them and then mis "kwote" them?

Fake noose.
Aw crap, the bottom of the second pic is cut off. Lemme search around see if I can find a different one.
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8/14/2017 4:24pm
You're serious, that's what they wrote? Haha!
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byke wrote:
You're serious, that's what they wrote? Haha!
Posted different shot, pretty small but you should be able to see it.

I saw the Superrcross one first and thought maybe it was a trade mark thing. Then I saw motoRcross.
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8/14/2017 5:27pm
wait what, this makes absolutely no sense

so rockstar is pulling out of Cmrc? and starting their own series that pays 100k?
100k per race? or 100k for the championship?

So a canadian sx and mx series?
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8/14/2017 6:21pm
Aside from the AX and SX series', which are great ideas, the MX series needs work. It has CMA/FIM affiliation, great.. but that calendar doesn't exactly do much for me. Only 8 rounds, and no Walton, Gopher, Ste. Julie, etc.
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8/14/2017 7:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2017 7:24pm
Supercross ? Why not just call all of them arenacrosses too lol, I looked the one place up it's a hockey rink
8/14/2017 8:02pm
What's the current purse?
I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's something like $600 for a win? Don't quote me on that, though.
I'd be interested to see the run down, anyone got anything?
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8/14/2017 8:12pm
Unless CMRC can get Redbull as a sponser they are done pros and privateers will follow the money CMRC has already gone through Monster and now Rockstar as sponsers plus they've pissed off everyone along the way.
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8/14/2017 8:16pm
CSMX ranch is a great track. It will be the Red Bud of Canada . Stamped it.
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8/14/2017 8:30pm
kevin204 wrote:
Aside from the AX and SX series', which are great ideas, the MX series needs work. It has CMA/FIM affiliation, great.. but that calendar doesn't exactly...
Aside from the AX and SX series', which are great ideas, the MX series needs work. It has CMA/FIM affiliation, great.. but that calendar doesn't exactly do much for me. Only 8 rounds, and no Walton, Gopher, Ste. Julie, etc.
I'll 2nd that. This year's series had 10 I believe and I thought that was kind of short, 12 sounds like a good number for some reason. Moving to Saturday doesn't seem like a great move with the US series already there. It will be tough trying to setup something like the nbcsn gold package if everyone's watching the ama nationals. I didn't mind the conx2share deal, I watched the replay Sunday nights so I could skip forward and not have it take up 5 hrs of my Sunday. I really get a kick out of the commentating, those Canadians are something else and are actually less painful to listen to than Timmy and Jeff most of the time.
I watched every round this year and it was some good racing. There were a few riders (Clason, Epstein, Maffenbeier) that really surprised me with their speed. Would like to see Maffenbeier come down for the last few nationals to see where he stands.
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8/14/2017 8:33pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2017 8:35pm
Where is the CSMX Ranch and how come I've never heard of it?

Edit, google is my friend, duh
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8/14/2017 9:13pm
mx617 wrote:
And a ton of other changes! If you have the time check out the presser, http://www.ride-motox.com/2017/08/14/jetwerx-press-conference/ it's about 35 min. If not, here's the coles notes...
And a ton of other changes! If you have the time check out the presser, http://www.ride-motox.com/2017/08/14/jetwerx-press-conference/ it's about 35 min.

If not, here's the coles notes version:

Travel money for teams at factory, satellite, and privateer levels. And a "team incentive program"
Better sound & viewing at tracks.
Better media access - wifi, food, etc
Saturday racing
More outreach - involvement in local visits - schools, hospitals, colleges
Start doing press conferences
VIP areas

And, new for 2018, it's now "Motorcross" and "Superrcross" according to the logos. Unsure






So Prince George (Blackwater) just made an announcement on their social media page that they aren't hosting a Jet Werk race?
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8/14/2017 9:19pm
What's the current purse?
I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's something like $600 for a win? Don't quote me on that, though.
I'd be interested to see the run down, anyone got anything?
Found this, granted it's from 2011 but I don't think there's been any major changes. $400 for mx2 moto win and $1000 for mx1. Maybe teamgreen or mav can confirm if it's still accurate?

https://m.facebook.com/notes/cmrc-motocross-pro-national-series/payout-…
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8/14/2017 9:22pm
kevin204 wrote:
Aside from the AX and SX series', which are great ideas, the MX series needs work. It has CMA/FIM affiliation, great.. but that calendar doesn't exactly...
Aside from the AX and SX series', which are great ideas, the MX series needs work. It has CMA/FIM affiliation, great.. but that calendar doesn't exactly do much for me. Only 8 rounds, and no Walton, Gopher, Ste. Julie, etc.
MohMoto14 wrote:
I'll 2nd that. This year's series had 10 I believe and I thought that was kind of short, 12 sounds like a good number for some...
I'll 2nd that. This year's series had 10 I believe and I thought that was kind of short, 12 sounds like a good number for some reason. Moving to Saturday doesn't seem like a great move with the US series already there. It will be tough trying to setup something like the nbcsn gold package if everyone's watching the ama nationals. I didn't mind the conx2share deal, I watched the replay Sunday nights so I could skip forward and not have it take up 5 hrs of my Sunday. I really get a kick out of the commentating, those Canadians are something else and are actually less painful to listen to than Timmy and Jeff most of the time.
I watched every round this year and it was some good racing. There were a few riders (Clason, Epstein, Maffenbeier) that really surprised me with their speed. Would like to see Maffenbeier come down for the last few nationals to see where he stands.
Overall the number of pro races is up I think, if you add all three together.
Conx2sgare sounds like it will be back next year. And yeah the announcing is great, little creepy on the girls at times. But I don't know if they'd bail on the cmrc. Or if jetwerx might want new guys in for fresh blood.
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Motodave15 wrote:
wait what, this makes absolutely no sense so rockstar is pulling out of Cmrc? and starting their own series that pays 100k? 100k per race? or...
wait what, this makes absolutely no sense

so rockstar is pulling out of Cmrc? and starting their own series that pays 100k?
100k per race? or 100k for the championship?

So a canadian sx and mx series?
Yes, rockstar pulling out of cmrc nationals.

No they're not starting their own series, they are sponsoring the one jetwerx is starting. Jetwerx already runs multiple series in Canada and the US.

The 100k I'm a little fuzzy on, not 100% sure but I think it's the total purse for the 3 championships. But it also sounded like it could be $100k total payout for winning the 3 series. Pretty sure it's the first option though.
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r.sal923 wrote:
CSMX ranch is a great track. It will be the Red Bud of Canada . Stamped it.
Great track... maybe. But a long long ways from a national caliber track. Lack of anything exciting or areas to stretch out a bike. Lots of potential with the property but needs some work. In my opinion.

And in the middle of no where for a national.

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r.sal923 wrote:
CSMX ranch is a great track. It will be the Red Bud of Canada . Stamped it.
Lunch_Box wrote:
Great track... maybe. But a long long ways from a national caliber track. Lack of anything exciting or areas to stretch out a bike. Lots of...
Great track... maybe. But a long long ways from a national caliber track. Lack of anything exciting or areas to stretch out a bike. Lots of potential with the property but needs some work. In my opinion.

And in the middle of no where for a national.

A stretch to say it's in Calgary. 1hr east of Calgary maybe.
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8/14/2017 9:38pm
mx617 wrote:
Yes, rockstar pulling out of cmrc nationals. No they're not starting their own series, they are sponsoring the one jetwerx is starting. Jetwerx already runs multiple...
Yes, rockstar pulling out of cmrc nationals.

No they're not starting their own series, they are sponsoring the one jetwerx is starting. Jetwerx already runs multiple series in Canada and the US.

The 100k I'm a little fuzzy on, not 100% sure but I think it's the total purse for the 3 championships. But it also sounded like it could be $100k total payout for winning the 3 series. Pretty sure it's the first option though.
Did your mom tell you they are pulling out?
8/14/2017 9:48pm
I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's something like $600 for a win? Don't quote me on that, though.
I'd be interested to see the run down, anyone got anything?
mx617 wrote:
Found this, granted it's from 2011 but I don't think there's been any major changes. $400 for mx2 moto win and $1000 for mx1. Maybe teamgreen...
Found this, granted it's from 2011 but I don't think there's been any major changes. $400 for mx2 moto win and $1000 for mx1. Maybe teamgreen or mav can confirm if it's still accurate?

https://m.facebook.com/notes/cmrc-motocross-pro-national-series/payout-…
I was a tad off haha.. but yeah that should be I think the purse has been the same for awhile now.
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mx617 wrote:
Yes, rockstar pulling out of cmrc nationals. No they're not starting their own series, they are sponsoring the one jetwerx is starting. Jetwerx already runs multiple...
Yes, rockstar pulling out of cmrc nationals.

No they're not starting their own series, they are sponsoring the one jetwerx is starting. Jetwerx already runs multiple series in Canada and the US.

The 100k I'm a little fuzzy on, not 100% sure but I think it's the total purse for the 3 championships. But it also sounded like it could be $100k total payout for winning the 3 series. Pretty sure it's the first option though.
kstyle wrote:
Did your mom tell you they are pulling out?
Lol no but the press conference did
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Motodave15 wrote:
wait what, this makes absolutely no sense so rockstar is pulling out of Cmrc? and starting their own series that pays 100k? 100k per race? or...
wait what, this makes absolutely no sense

so rockstar is pulling out of Cmrc? and starting their own series that pays 100k?
100k per race? or 100k for the championship?

So a canadian sx and mx series?
There's 3 series. In order to be eligible for the 100k the rider needs to do all 3 series in the 450 class and at the end of all 3 series the one with the most points takes home 100k.

Privateers already struggle to put a budget for a couple months in the summer with a series that travels coast to coast 1 single time. With this they would need to commit to a full year of racing that crosses the country multiple times.

Personally I get what they are trying to achieve but I don't see it working. They won't have a problem filling the gates with local talent but that's not what they are after. They want national caliber racers at their events in order to put on a good show No problem for the bigger teams but a lot of the talent racing are privateers with small budgets.

The MX series should go to a 12 round series. A lot easier for families and riders to take time iff during the summer months when people take vacation and the kids/students are off school. We see American riders and foreign riders come up and race the Nationals every summer. I highly doubt you'll see them commit to 3 different series.

For those thinking/asking about supercross it'll be more the scale of the Australian SX series than the US series.

Personally I don't consider a 3 race supercross series a championship series. The Arenacross series is composed of 6 races which in my opinion is a short championship. Scaling back the MX series to 8 rounds I think is a mistake.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for growing the sport and grooming young riders in Canada but as they say you need to learn to walk before you can run.

Really big ambitious goals, they better deliver on their promise because if the riders and teams involved don't have a pleasant experience the first time around it can backfire in their face big time.

Rockstar Energy sees value in their program and that's why they'll be supporting them in 2018.

The new series will be bound by the CMA and the FIM.

I'm not sure what will become of the CMRC. If the teams all decide to jump ship then I believe CMRC won't have a choice but close up shop. There's not enough teams, riders/talent to have 2 different national series.

If the teams commit to the Jetwerx series they'll have to find more sponsorship as well because of the additional races. Crossing the country multiple time isn't cheap either.

We'll have more info on the new series in the next couple of months.

I apologize for the long text.

Cliff notes: take 2 minutes and read it.

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