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The facts are, the top guys from both sides of the pond can be competative in either MX series.
Tomac could get there, he has the speed but I have a feeling get the feeling Tomac is too intelligent to be a racer, his mental side lacks.
The MXGP currently has 2-3 riders at that RC, JS, RD, RV level. Cairoli, herlings and gasjer.
250's AMA is the better class...
USA seems to be going through some transition years, give us a few years
and the US will be back on top.
This year it is different. Desalle has stepped up also while Nagl and Febvre stepped back. I think the only one that can run speed with those 3 GP riders are Tomac, Andersson, Bagget and Musquin while Tomac is most likely the only one that can go even with Cairoli and Herlings at full speed.
If you add starts as a factor it becomes even more in favour for Cairoli since he rarely starts outside top 3, most likely going holeshot. Herlings starts is a bit better than Tomac, but not much.
Overall America (if they keep competing) will win most of the events because they have the bigger source of talent to pick from to represent a single country i.e they are the strongest MX nation, which is what the MXDN format is ostensibly designed to discover.
Seeing a couple of other countries win over the last 5 yrs has been refreshing, but only individual performances are really useful for comparing series, and even then can only be taken so far.
But otherwise, the field in mxgp is imo MUCH deeper this year than AMA. You can have Febvre in 9th place in a moto and not moving forward and he is still putting on close to the same laptimes as the leaders.
In Ama you have dean wilson coming i 3rd place. No offense to dean (i love dean), but he is nowhere near the speed of Febvre, van hoorebek etc who are barely making top 8 in some motos in mxgp.
As someone said, it feels like the US series is in a transition year/years. Alot of fast guys has retired. But there is ALOT of talent in the 250 class and once they move up the 450 class will become alot deeper. Like the GPs are now.
Just my opinion after following both series.
Really sad that Eli Tomac is ducking out of MXDN duty again, when a win at Matterley could so much enhance his reputation and career! Perhaps he's a realist who couldn't take another defeat?
When the American promoter of perhaps the largest mx event in American history loses money doing it there is something seriously wrong with the event.
US riders going to race the a gp type event is comparable to gp riders coming to race the monster energy cup.
A completely different track type, format, and set up then what they are familiar with.
Send us your best and let's compare them after they try their hands in vegas.
Pit Row
US tracks are so much rough and technical than de MXGP tracks.
Musquin end Tomac beat all MXGP pack, no discussion except for the Euros retards dreamers.
Anderson last year was better than Herlings, no discussion (with a huge crash a couple weeks before so not in shape)
Top US riders are better because SUPERCROSS skills, intensity ect. so more complete.
The average level euro pack are better yes but not the best in skills, speed, shape or whatever.
Looks ET last year at Glen Helen on the finish line against Cairoli, it was like kid vs man lol.
This has been argued to death here at Vital, and these threads should go immediately to the Dumbgeon, and morans starting them should be given a lengthy time-out.
Oh, by the way do you remember also the face of James Stewart in 2006, Villopoto in 2006, Tedesco and Dungey in 2009, the US team in 2012, Tomac in 2013 and many many more? The opposite was in 2007, 2010, where Dungey and Villo smashed the competition.
Oh, and surely Anderson was faster then a guy he did not race against :D
Read the words of Chris Purcel and think about them.
"James Stewart in 2006"
We're talking about now and u remenber the face of Everts at Zolder MXDN ? Everts still my favorite rider all time but RC still also the GOAT.
Yes the best rider all of time come from America sry dude.
"Tomac in 2013 and many many more? "
Yeah i remenber, 2sec lap more faster than everyone with 2 crash at the start with a commentator who said "waouh" every 2 seconds when he looking his beast mode ride.
"Oh, and surely Anderson was faster then a guy he did not race against :D
Pathetic.
These threads are heaven for the trolls from both sides of the ponds.
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