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This is not a knock on Musquin or Roczen, they're both fantastic world class athletes. It's a knock on the ding dongs who actually think the GP series is better.
It's funny that we go over there and still fight for wins every single year no matter what. You guys come over here and it's not even close. We could send Webb, Plessinger and Peick (5th through 10th place guys here) and still be a podium threat over there. We would win anywhere here on home soil with those guys. But you guys think you're guys are so much better. Its funny how things only work 1 way.
Their top three in our top 3 are comparable, but that's where it ends. No way do Dean and Martin even break the top 10 in the GP. I think they're 4th to 10th Place Riders would smash our fourth to Tenth Place Riders.
The Shop
how funny is your last line .......
But you guys think you're guys are so much better. Its funny how things only work 1 way.
First of all, it was not all the GP riders.. Jason andersson rode the open class. Cairoli, Febvre and lots of the other fast riders rode in the mxgp class. Who jason never got to race because of the incident.
2nd, herlings was clearly faster than Jason, catching him and going down when trying to make a pass. Which was also his first time racing a 450.
Just stating facts that that alot of you seems to forget.
now it's just waiting for someone to play the World War II card ... make my day
You joined 5 years after I did and you have more posts...
I honestly believe Tomac, Musquin, Baggett (when healthy) would be equal to Cairoli, Herlings and Gajser. I think each one of those guys are a step ahead of anyone else in the world but are on the same level as each other.
Anderson can probably be grouped with Desalle, Febvre and Paulin. I think Webb will be right there with these guys too once healthy.
The next group is where the USA falls behind. The 8th thru 20th place guys. I do think the GP series is "deeper" in potential race winners. For example, Cairoli may win this week but take 6th next. You won't see that happen to Tomac, Musquin or Baggett very often when healthy or without a mistake.
250s are a different ball game. I think the 250 class is much deeper in the AMA. I believe Jonass could compete for podiums and maybe 2 or 3 other guys, but other than that I honestly believe the top 20 250 AMA guys are much better. And i will add this, i thibk Jonass would do great in the AMA because of his Dungey-esqe consistency. It's pretty awesome to see.
Pit Row
and i agree with you , the top of both 450 series can win at any track at any day .
MX2 in US is just a class better at the moment and in past years , only Herlings and Ferrandis were 2 riders in the past that could match them.
As for MXON , the USA has just so many riders to choose from that you always have a shot ... look at us , the dutch , we got Herlings as toprider , after that we get top 10 riders in 450 and 250 . Yet we almost won last year , we were leading until the very last lap but Febvre spoiled the party and we lost with just 1 point ....
you need a bit of luck at MXON to win it
Jonass,Seewer,Covingvton and Paturel if he ever, ever made a decent start could well be podium contenders like Ferrandis,
The 250. class is deeper than MX2 though
The MX1 deeper than the 450 class..imo
The 450 riders are all so hard to predict though,on an average crossing ponds, tracks etc they're on a pretty even level across the board, this year's USGP should be better if Cairoli stays fit, Gajser too, while Paulin & Desalle are much more true form than last year's efforts,Febvre is getting there too, I hope a few more AMA do it too (assuming Tomac will again)
Osborne versus Covington is the most interesting match up for me though at the end of the year
I do think the field in the GP's is deeper in the 450cc class over the U.S. field.
As far as 250's there is no doubt that the field is deeper in the states.
I'm really glad the MXGP riders have really stepped it up because I really enjoy motocross so much more then supercross. The MXGP guys can ride a gnarly track and it's pretty awesome to watch.
Don't get me wrong, I like deathcross to, but 16 rounds of it and I just dream for the outdoors after about the 4th round.
Props to the MXGP riders as well as the U.S. motocross riders for putting on a great show and some incredible motos!!
Seems like a win win for motocross fans!
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