If I made the rules

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Edited Date/Time 5/19/2017 5:40pm
Tiddler class would be 250cc max, any stroke, any fuel.
Big boy class would be 400-450cc, any stroke, any fuel.
Homo rule would be 100 units sold.

Would anyone start producing a big two stroke? I don't know.
Do I want to go back to all two strokes? No, but I do think that some variety on the track would make things more interesting.

Well crap, my alarm just went off, time to stop dreaming.
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brimx153 5/19/2017 6:11am
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i agree , everyone says 450f are the prob in this sport , its not ,it s 250f s ,there just too expensive to run imo
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Johnny Depp 5/19/2017 6:16am
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2 open classes, 1 Pro and 1 age limited. No Homo rule.
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newmann 5/19/2017 7:21am
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125cc 6 rounds

250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way around. And yes, 250CC 2 stroke or 4.

Open class 6 rounds

Maybe guys like Carmichael, Villopoto, Dungey and Stewart would hang around a little longer instead of quitting in the prime of their careers.

While we are at it, cut SX back to 12 rounds and pack the stadiums instead of having them half full. Maybe then there would be more guys still healthy enough to head outdoors.
motoxxx599 5/19/2017 7:23am
5/19/2017 7:23am
i like the age rule that the GPs have.

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TripleFive 5/19/2017 7:24am
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It's 2017, homos should definitely be allowed to participate.
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newmann 5/19/2017 7:27am
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TripleFive wrote:
It's 2017, homos should definitely be allowed to participate.
And it shouldn't take 400 of them for their voices to be heard.
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MR. X 5/19/2017 7:28am
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Just stock and modified would be interesting . Any stroke or displacement as long as it's bone stock or modified.
mattyhamz2 5/19/2017 7:49am
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Johnny Depp wrote:
2 open classes, 1 Pro and 1 age limited. No Homo rule.
Pretty un PC of you to say that in 2017.... Tongue
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Moto810 5/19/2017 8:02am
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Johnny Depp wrote:
2 open classes, 1 Pro and 1 age limited. No Homo rule.
I like that idea. Having an age limit class depending on how you do it could make it so more pro racers race longer. Imagine a Pro 30+ class? After all vet racing is one of the strongest parts of this sport.
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Moto810 5/19/2017 8:04am
5/19/2017 8:04am Edited Date/Time 5/19/2017 8:10am
just James wrote:
Tiddler class would be 250cc max, any stroke, any fuel. Big boy class would be 400-450cc, any stroke, any fuel. Homo rule would be 100 units...
Tiddler class would be 250cc max, any stroke, any fuel.
Big boy class would be 400-450cc, any stroke, any fuel.
Homo rule would be 100 units sold.

Would anyone start producing a big two stroke? I don't know.
Do I want to go back to all two strokes? No, but I do think that some variety on the track would make things more interesting.

Well crap, my alarm just went off, time to stop dreaming.
Yes that would be much better than what we have today! Let the bikes race without having to pay people in the industry money!
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MXER231 5/19/2017 8:31am
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Johnny Depp wrote:
2 open classes, 1 Pro and 1 age limited. No Homo rule.
Moto810 wrote:
I like that idea. Having an age limit class depending on how you do it could make it so more pro racers race longer. Imagine a...
I like that idea. Having an age limit class depending on how you do it could make it so more pro racers race longer. Imagine a Pro 30+ class? After all vet racing is one of the strongest parts of this sport.
+30 pro sounds good! Count me in
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just James 5/19/2017 8:52am
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newmann wrote:
125cc 6 rounds 250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way...
125cc 6 rounds

250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way around. And yes, 250CC 2 stroke or 4.

Open class 6 rounds

Maybe guys like Carmichael, Villopoto, Dungey and Stewart would hang around a little longer instead of quitting in the prime of their careers.

While we are at it, cut SX back to 12 rounds and pack the stadiums instead of having them half full. Maybe then there would be more guys still healthy enough to head outdoors.
Yeah Joe, I like what you proposed there. Not as well as my ideas though. :-)

As for the fuel restrictions, I don't know what that is even about. If it is to appease the greenies, you may as well stand on a tall mountain to try to jump to the moon. Yes, you are technically closer to your goal, but you will never get there. The green fruitcakes loathe everything about this sport, and always will, no matter how hard you try to please them. Better off just telling them to get lost in the first place.
Morton952 5/19/2017 8:54am
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TripleFive wrote:
It's 2017, homos should definitely be allowed to participate.
newmann wrote:
And it shouldn't take 400 of them for their voices to be heard.
I'm pretty sure you aren't allowed to sell anyone, even if you do call them 'units'
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doofy 5/19/2017 9:05am
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MR. X wrote:
Just stock and modified would be interesting . Any stroke or displacement as long as it's bone stock or modified.
This. Gncc used to do a stock class and the manufacturers were behind it just as much as they were the pro class. Stock class was basically the pro class of the morning. It was amazing.
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Moto810 5/19/2017 9:09am
5/19/2017 9:09am Edited Date/Time 5/19/2017 9:33am
It seems to me that if you want the sport to include as many people as possible Pro motocross should consider some different class ideas as a few have suggested here. Maybe even an idea such as this.

Three total classes: Open Pro, Vet Pro, and Women's Pro

A race day could race as follows.

Open Pro moto 1
Women's Pro moto
Vet Pro moto
Open Pro moto 2


The reason I say this is it includes everyone thus you get more fans in the sport week to week. Older guys stay in the sport longer and so do their fans. The race day seems logical and interesting. By including the ladies I think that helps the sport as well for the long run. Just ideas is all. No harm in hearing some different thoughts out there and so far this thread has a few good ones.
Matt Fisher 5/19/2017 9:25am
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newmann wrote:
125cc 6 rounds 250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way...
125cc 6 rounds

250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way around. And yes, 250CC 2 stroke or 4.

Open class 6 rounds

Maybe guys like Carmichael, Villopoto, Dungey and Stewart would hang around a little longer instead of quitting in the prime of their careers.

While we are at it, cut SX back to 12 rounds and pack the stadiums instead of having them half full. Maybe then there would be more guys still healthy enough to head outdoors.
This, with minor changes.

Fuel can have as much lead as the EPA allows in pump gas. No rocket fuels like F1 was using in the 80's.

Works bike for each manufacture every 5 years.

I do think 6 rounds is pretty small to be crowning a champion, 8 makes more sense to me. This means two rounds would have 125's and Open classes only, assuming no one wanted to run three classes in one day (though night races for the finals could be interesting).

Have at least one round combined with the USGP. Just like east/west 250SX was combined in Las Vegas. That would make for some phenomenal bench racing and the likely shake up in both series points would keep things interesting.

No age limit. If you're 40 years old and only weigh 118lbs, have at it on the 125 bikes.
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Whole mess of pipe dreams here
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Moto810 5/19/2017 9:45am
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MR. X wrote:
Just stock and modified would be interesting . Any stroke or displacement as long as it's bone stock or modified.
Yes true even that would be pretty cool.

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Andy_Greenney 5/19/2017 9:51am
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I doubt the manufacturers would be interested in these rules, a lot of extra expense to produce/race bikes that aren't relevant to the consumer.

It should be like for like on cc but don't think a 16 year old kid should be able to jump straight on a 250t
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kzizok 5/19/2017 1:23pm
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newmann wrote:
125cc 6 rounds 250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way...
125cc 6 rounds

250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way around. And yes, 250CC 2 stroke or 4.

Open class 6 rounds

Maybe guys like Carmichael, Villopoto, Dungey and Stewart would hang around a little longer instead of quitting in the prime of their careers.

While we are at it, cut SX back to 12 rounds and pack the stadiums instead of having them half full. Maybe then there would be more guys still healthy enough to head outdoors.
That would work.
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rongi#401 5/19/2017 1:43pm
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homos can race
Matt Fisher 5/19/2017 2:00pm
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BobPA wrote:
Whole mess of pipe dreams here
It's the moto version of little kids coming up with a list for Santa.
Sometimes the right folks are paying attention and dreams come true...
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If every bike had equal displacement (2 and 4 strokes) the four stroke revolution would have stalled out in 1999. Imagine if the 2 smokes had as much money/development as the four strokes.
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Ing wrote:
If every bike had equal displacement (2 and 4 strokes) the four stroke revolution would have stalled out in 1999. Imagine if the 2 smokes had...
If every bike had equal displacement (2 and 4 strokes) the four stroke revolution would have stalled out in 1999. Imagine if the 2 smokes had as much money/development as the four strokes.
To be fair two stroke had 30+ years of development...70's-present
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plowboy 5/19/2017 5:39pm
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I thought of a lot of goofy shit but I'd just be happy if there were 2 classes. 250 (2 or 4 stroke) and Open (251cc to unlimited...2 or 4 stroke).
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newmann wrote:
125cc 6 rounds 250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way...
125cc 6 rounds

250cc 12 rounds It's the "Premier" class anyway, at least cost wise. Might as well make it the Premier class all the way around. And yes, 250CC 2 stroke or 4.

Open class 6 rounds

Maybe guys like Carmichael, Villopoto, Dungey and Stewart would hang around a little longer instead of quitting in the prime of their careers.

While we are at it, cut SX back to 12 rounds and pack the stadiums instead of having them half full. Maybe then there would be more guys still healthy enough to head outdoors.
Newmann for President!!!

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