Going from a 2006 CRF490 to a 2017 KTM SXF 450…First Impressions

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All I know is my starts are so clean that people are buying KTM just for that traction control
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Have you thought about putting in some time on the REM track just to shake everything out? A less intense track to get a feel for ergos, power delivery, braking etc? Especially after a stroke? Holy shit, that is scary.
Didn't you have a nasty wreck at GH and waste a 6d helmet?
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DRAGONBACK wrote:
This story reminds me of Captain America waking up after being asleep for 70 years...
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+1 lol I have a 2017 Husky and don't even understand pretty much any of these complaints. The bike is amazing, the suspension is plush, handles...
+1 lol
I have a 2017 Husky and don't even understand pretty much any of these complaints. The bike is amazing, the suspension is plush, handles great. Ergos are great except the kick start is in a horrible position for me.
Thank goodness you spoke up lol....I was beginning to think he just got a bad bike. All of my buddies ride this bike or a version close to it and we've had none of these issues. I think a major issue is that he rode his bike for so long and so much has changed from that bike to this new one. And, he's going to a KTM vs going to a kawi or Zook. Keep with it and get with a good tester that rides this bike well who can help you get a base setting it sounds like you just can't get there on your own.
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I thought the shifter for the 16-17 where the same? I had a hammerhead plus 10mm on mine loved it

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3/23/2017 4:21pm
The new KTM 450 is pure bred race bike. Its definitely a coshy 490 trail bike that enjoys 5th gear. Did you look at the EXC range?
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I'll buy it..
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I don't know about the new KTM's, but a Scott's Damper killed a lot of woes on my 06 525, which I still love, adore, and it's mostly white.
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The new KTM 450 is pure bred race bike. Its definitely a coshy 490 trail bike that enjoys 5th gear. Did you look at the EXC...
The new KTM 450 is pure bred race bike. Its definitely a coshy 490 trail bike that enjoys 5th gear. Did you look at the EXC range?
You must be fast
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Not even close I had a 07 450 crf,. And now a 16 fe 450, ktm is way better. And the crf was a great bike.
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I highly doubt you are riding the bike like it is meant to be ridden. It is a race machine. I can tell you right now that your 2006 490 (or whatever bogus big bore off the shelf is in it) is a garbage Truck compared to your new bike. The problem is for your ability and probably poor body positioning. You've found a comfort in riding the same couch for the past 11 years. Reasy to race isn't just a slogan.
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JWACK wrote:
I went from a 2008 crf 450 to a 16 ktm. Had High hopes. Turns out my 08 is everybit as good everywhere with exception of...
I went from a 2008 crf 450 to a 16 ktm. Had High hopes. Turns out my 08 is everybit as good everywhere with exception of the weight department and the air filter change. Shit my 08 has better throttle response even.
Don't even get me started on the hardware with marks all over them and the nooks and crannies everywhere on the frame that didn't get painted.
PFitzG38 wrote:
OK, so you know what I’m talking about. But after you came on Vital and explained yourself and got everything worked out you’re now throwing mean...
OK, so you know what I’m talking about. But after you came on Vital and explained yourself and got everything worked out you’re now throwing mean whips and doing sick pop-a-wheelies and nailing ruts right?

It just goes to show you how good those old Honda's are and how dialed I have mine for me. It’s going to be interesting to see how long it takes me to actually feel like I’m going faster on a 11 year newer bike than I’m coming off of.
JWACK wrote:
Yes. But the Honda is still just as good if not better.! That 08 with B kit is just a dang awesome bike. It handles superb...
Yes. But the Honda is still just as good if not better.! That 08 with B kit is just a dang awesome bike. It handles superb. Never a wobble and never a push. It does feel heavy in some situations, That's the absolutely only thing that it isn't as good at. And the air filter sucks to change. I still like the carb better than my efi. Maybe I'm broken.
One major advantage I've found with the Honda "at least for me" is flat hard corners. sliding the rear. When your coming in hot" pushing the front and rear kinda hot" and let the rear start stepping out to flat track, its way more predictable than the ktm. I can let the Honda get way way out there the same every time. The ktm slides in one way one lap and then the next lap it does it different.
You can fix the obnoxious filter change with a Loudmouth. That used to irritate me too with the stock Honda setup. It's no biggie now. Had it on my bike for like five years. Worth every penny.
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3/24/2017 12:17pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 12:24pm
Uh, the terms "Luddite" and "bogan" come to mind when reading this thread.

But I have to applaud OP for airing his laundry here.

OP, dude, you haven't had a new bike in 11 years. That tells me your new bike setup skills are not very well established. Take all of this feedback and keep at it. The KTMs are really, really great bikes.

I had a 13 450sxf which was Mxa's favorite. I purchased it after I had a string of crfs(04, 05,07) but I had trouble adapting. I was happy to sell it, but not because it wasn't a good bike, mostly because it was so strange. I went back to Japanese and was thrilled ! I loved my 13 kxf and put 120 hrs on it but it took a shit ton of set up to get it right.

And then I bought another Ktm (350).

This time around I knew what I was getting in to. And I knew I would have to put some effort into the setup.

After about 20 hrs I can't say enough how much I like my ktm. Makes my kawi feel like a tanker.

Almost forgot to mention, Ktm's gearing choices are not nearly as good as honda's. Make changes!
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OK I’m starting to get it. Put white plastic on and immediately I could tell I was faster in the corners and had more confidence everywhere than I did looking at an orange front fender, they don’t say anything about that in any tests I’ve read. I Raced REM last week and came away feeling a lot better about my new KTM but not so good about my newly separated shoulder. Today is the first day I’m working on range of motion and am trying to type (got lucky only a grade 2) You guys are right about a few things such as this KTM is a first rate race bike.

My tranny issue was twofold first I had to get the shifter height right which I went over in my last post, another issue was that the KTM tranny is too good for my taste. It is sooo smooth that not only can you not feel it shift, with my newish boots I can’t even tell if I’m touching/moving the shifter. On my Honda it wasn’t notchy or anything it just had a more tactile feel, there was no doubt you grabbed the next gear. I’ll get used to it as my boots break in and I learn to trust my shifts. Also you can’t find neutral unless you go down from 2nd.

Another issue I had was the Raptor pegs I put on. Way gripper than anything I’ve used before, hard to get my feetwork right (MXA has a good article this mo about how important that is)

This was the first moto with this bike I charged out of the gate and actually tried getting a start going into the first turn. I came out in 4th but probably could’ve had a holie if I was on my Honda, I saw the hole but didn’t have the confidence to out brake the girl next to me, yeah that’s right what’s the big deal? Her name is Ginger and she hauls ass, she has a friend Michelle who is even faster. She’d probably smoke the majority of you guys on this board. I’ve seen her lay herself out in the first turn in a crash that would send most guys home and then go out the second moto and get a good finish…so STFU -Respect.

I used to own this class but I’m still not sure how the KTM responds on flat ground coming into the first turn in a two wheel drift while coasting. You know when you come into a flat corner hot and you kind of saw the bars back and forth while both your tires break loose before you get on the gas – I just need to do some figure eight barrel drills in the parking lot and I’ll be good to go next time.

I only lasted 3 or 4 laps before I either got taken out or didn’t lift in time. I always criticize the pros when they go into a bowl turn and the guy on the outside doesn’t let off and gets his front wheel taken away. It always looks so obvious - Why didn’t you just let off and live to fight another day? Well I was that guy this weekend. Or was I? At the time I didn’t even know who did it and was more pissed at myself.

I may have been able to let off but didn’t think I needed to, but looking at the GoPro and seeing his tire mark that goes from inside across three lines directly to my front wheel when I go to pick up my bike it looks like at the best it was a really aggressive block pass lol What do you guys think? Did I get railed T-Bone Steak style or did I put myself in the wrong place?

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JWACK wrote:
Yes. But the Honda is still just as good if not better.! That 08 with B kit is just a dang awesome bike. It handles superb...
Yes. But the Honda is still just as good if not better.! That 08 with B kit is just a dang awesome bike. It handles superb. Never a wobble and never a push. It does feel heavy in some situations, That's the absolutely only thing that it isn't as good at. And the air filter sucks to change. I still like the carb better than my efi. Maybe I'm broken.
One major advantage I've found with the Honda "at least for me" is flat hard corners. sliding the rear. When your coming in hot" pushing the front and rear kinda hot" and let the rear start stepping out to flat track, its way more predictable than the ktm. I can let the Honda get way way out there the same every time. The ktm slides in one way one lap and then the next lap it does it different.
Sounds like you understand my sitch. Flat corners are still an issue for me. i could come in hot on my Honda and control a front end washout just by moving the bars. Not so much on the KTM yet. Just need to practice.
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captmoto wrote:
Have you thought about putting in some time on the REM track just to shake everything out? A less intense track to get a feel for...
Have you thought about putting in some time on the REM track just to shake everything out? A less intense track to get a feel for ergos, power delivery, braking etc? Especially after a stroke? Holy shit, that is scary.
Didn't you have a nasty wreck at GH and waste a 6d helmet?
Good idea. No crash at GH wasting a 6D - but a few nasty wrecks, yes
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mxwrench66 wrote:
I highly doubt you are riding the bike like it is meant to be ridden. It is a race machine. I can tell you right now...
I highly doubt you are riding the bike like it is meant to be ridden. It is a race machine. I can tell you right now that your 2006 490 (or whatever bogus big bore off the shelf is in it) is a garbage Truck compared to your new bike. The problem is for your ability and probably poor body positioning. You've found a comfort in riding the same couch for the past 11 years. Reasy to race isn't just a slogan.
Your probably right about me not riding it the way it's supposed to be ridden, but don't be baggn' on my Honda. Those Athena kits are top notch. I felt like I was going to get the holeshot everytime I lined up and usually did. First cylinder lasted over 200 hours. I have beaten plenty of guys on 2017 KTMs in both the int and exp class with it before I went to the dark side so i KNOW it's competitive. Ready to Race..yes Easy to Race...I'm working on it.
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Didn't see much you could have done, dude came in hot and cut across in my eyes. More of block than a t-bone.
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You can fix the obnoxious filter change with a Loudmouth. That used to irritate me too with the stock Honda setup. It's no biggie now. Had...
You can fix the obnoxious filter change with a Loudmouth. That used to irritate me too with the stock Honda setup. It's no biggie now. Had it on my bike for like five years. Worth every penny.
Loudmouth was a worthy performance upgrade on my Honda, not to mention convienence. I recently found out they make one for the KTM. i see that in my future. Based on the Husky it sounds like these bikes are open to getting more air. A little triming of the airbox with a dremel and a loudmouth with a pipe...possible remap
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byke wrote:
You can fix the obnoxious filter change with a Loudmouth. That used to irritate me too with the stock Honda setup. It's no biggie now. Had...
You can fix the obnoxious filter change with a Loudmouth. That used to irritate me too with the stock Honda setup. It's no biggie now. Had it on my bike for like five years. Worth every penny.
PFitzG38 wrote:
Loudmouth was a worthy performance upgrade on my Honda, not to mention convienence. I recently found out they make one for the KTM. i see that...
Loudmouth was a worthy performance upgrade on my Honda, not to mention convienence. I recently found out they make one for the KTM. i see that in my future. Based on the Husky it sounds like these bikes are open to getting more air. A little triming of the airbox with a dremel and a loudmouth with a pipe...possible remap
Remap or vortex, good fuel 150 SX screenless air cage. No need to drill any holes.
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For what's worth, Ive basically owned all the brands Except Husky. And my 17 KTM 450 is the best bike i've ever owned. It corners like a dream, has a motor that is flawless (and with 2 good maps), and stops on a dime. I love it. Mine is completely stock, haven't changed a thing on it and i'm actually scared to mess with an already great package if i dont have to.

I think you just need to set it up for you, then spend some time getting used to your new bike, build your confidence up on it, get to know it and it's limits, what it likes and doesnt like etc.
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As for the video..I liked it and you had a good race going.
I don't think the guy took you out, it looked like a legitimate block passing attempt and certainly how I might have tried to pass you myself, you certainly did leave yourself wide open to that pass and you effectively ran into the guy and caused your own fall. You might have well cut back to your right and just blew straight past the guy but shit happens and it happens fast. I wasn't there and you can't really tell from a video. I know I've at times been in that position and had the same thing happen, at times I've been that guy going up the inside.... You probably just didn't sense he was there quick enough and hopefully you weren't hurt at all.
Anyway,I'm just really envious of you, you are out there racing on a good track with good competition and having a good time.
I got to race at REM a couple of times back in 2000 on a 5 week visit to the USA. I have very fond memories of it!

Oh what I'd give to be able to just get outta bed every Saturday morning and go race two twenty minute motos on a good track, where I don't need an expensive race license, where I don't need to pre enter in advance,where I'm done by mid afternoon, where I don't have to push my bike through tech inspection to have some wanker sticking a screwdriver through my hand grips trying to see if I've made the criminal offence of attempting to race without handlebar plugs, where I don't have to bring my very own personal flag marshal or I'm not allowed on the track, where I don't have to be there at 6 am Saturday morning and still be there at 4 pm Sunday afternoon for a total of 5 three lap races, where I'm not threatened with capital punishment for riding my bike from the track exit back to the locked in pit area where I have to ask an official to unlock the lock in pit area gate so that I can take my bike bike back to my vehicle and go home if I so choose.

I love it that you have had health issues and injuries but you have a new bike and you are out there racing...I don't mean that I'm happy that you have had those issues, just that you are prepared to say f*** that and go race anyway!
Well done!

Good luck with the KTM , I've had Yamaha two strokes for years but no bike at all now. I like the look and sound of these new Ktm four strokes , would love to ride one

I would have a new bike and be out there racing in an instant if it were even remotely worth the time and expense, sadly it just isn't where I live.
You know, it would actually make sense for me to buy a bike in California, leave it there at someone's house and travel there to go racing every sat and Sunday for one month every year.
It would be way cheaper than racing here, I would get more track time in than I would in an entire season here and I would have a great time...unlike here.
Shit I think I just had a brilliant idea!
Cheers mate...keep racing and watch out you don't take the extreme outside line when there's someone on your hammer!
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Hmm, just watched that video again and I guess you really didn't have much time to react and avoid the incident.
It looked pretty cool on that go pro footage though.
Was just thinking back and remembering back to an incident exactly like that at a supercross race at Heathcote park raceway in 1987( it's actually a drag strip) in Victoria when I got a good start and my mate Steve Butler cameup the inside of me and exactly the same thing happened , I was kicking myself for leaving that door so wide open .
Anyway I like your story with the bike issues and wish I had those problems myself, at leas it would mean I was actually racing....
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Did the guy in the 6D just stop in the middle of the race to pick up your bike? Damn that's what you call a good friend! lol
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What tires did you run on the Honda? My observations of the Dunlop MX3S is that they are amazing, stick like glue. Except when the track is dry. I was there on a Thursday practicing on the REM track. The track was running clockwise and was really dry. There was a right turn that drops down that crossed the start that was dry as a Baptist picnic. It was really sketchy for me until they put some water on it. All it took was a misting to get all the traction back the MX3S has to offer. I've never ridden on a tire that sensitive to moisture before and you know Glen Helen can be bipolar with slop in some corners and desert race conditions a half lap away.
Take this with a 50 lb. sack of salt from a a fat old slow guy. I'm going to try Bridgestone X30/X40 combo next.

I admire your drive. I kind of did the same thing as you, My last new bike was 04 CRF450. Injuries in 08 and excuses kept me off a new bike until I got my 17 FC450. I have shot knees, 2 bulging discs in my neck, 3 in my lower back and will likely have my ankle fused later this year. Slap tear in one shoulder and low grade rotator in the other. I was sick of feeling like shit most days and decided to go all in. I decided of I was going to ache I would have some fun along the way. I don't do much of anything else. I don't golf or play poker or do the river thing or Glamis. I gotta moto, slow and ugly as it is until I really can't anymore.
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PJRAUS wrote:
As for the video..I liked it and you had a good race going. I don't think the guy took you out, it looked like a legitimate...
As for the video..I liked it and you had a good race going.
I don't think the guy took you out, it looked like a legitimate block passing attempt and certainly how I might have tried to pass you myself, you certainly did leave yourself wide open to that pass and you effectively ran into the guy and caused your own fall. You might have well cut back to your right and just blew straight past the guy but shit happens and it happens fast. I wasn't there and you can't really tell from a video. I know I've at times been in that position and had the same thing happen, at times I've been that guy going up the inside.... You probably just didn't sense he was there quick enough and hopefully you weren't hurt at all.
Anyway,I'm just really envious of you, you are out there racing on a good track with good competition and having a good time.
I got to race at REM a couple of times back in 2000 on a 5 week visit to the USA. I have very fond memories of it!

Oh what I'd give to be able to just get outta bed every Saturday morning and go race two twenty minute motos on a good track, where I don't need an expensive race license, where I don't need to pre enter in advance,where I'm done by mid afternoon, where I don't have to push my bike through tech inspection to have some wanker sticking a screwdriver through my hand grips trying to see if I've made the criminal offence of attempting to race without handlebar plugs, where I don't have to bring my very own personal flag marshal or I'm not allowed on the track, where I don't have to be there at 6 am Saturday morning and still be there at 4 pm Sunday afternoon for a total of 5 three lap races, where I'm not threatened with capital punishment for riding my bike from the track exit back to the locked in pit area where I have to ask an official to unlock the lock in pit area gate so that I can take my bike bike back to my vehicle and go home if I so choose.

I love it that you have had health issues and injuries but you have a new bike and you are out there racing...I don't mean that I'm happy that you have had those issues, just that you are prepared to say f*** that and go race anyway!
Well done!

Good luck with the KTM , I've had Yamaha two strokes for years but no bike at all now. I like the look and sound of these new Ktm four strokes , would love to ride one

I would have a new bike and be out there racing in an instant if it were even remotely worth the time and expense, sadly it just isn't where I live.
You know, it would actually make sense for me to buy a bike in California, leave it there at someone's house and travel there to go racing every sat and Sunday for one month every year.
It would be way cheaper than racing here, I would get more track time in than I would in an entire season here and I would have a great time...unlike here.
Shit I think I just had a brilliant idea!
Cheers mate...keep racing and watch out you don't take the extreme outside line when there's someone on your hammer!
Favorite response so far. Thanks for putting things in perspective. I'm complaining about a new bike and a wrong shifter and you guys in Europe have to deal with all that!! and I thought a tearoff ban would be a hassle. Everytime I pull into Glen Helen and look at those hills I remember how lucky I am. Our big problem is having to make time to say hi to all your friends before signup Then when I leave I can't drive away without 10 people saying goodbye. Same guys I have been racing with since I was 16, and I'm 54 now! Really sorry racing is such a hassle for you. At least you had your priorities straight when you visited the US and got in some laps at REM. It's really amazing how many visiting Euros race there every week. Speaking of such you really don't need to leave a bike here, I could introduce you to more than a few guys who would make sure you had a ride if you were to plan ahead. Thats another thing if your bike breaks between motos. Someone will make sure you race your 2nd moto - Sometimes it'll be an MXA test bike!!
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HenryA wrote:
Did the guy in the 6D just stop in the middle of the race to pick up your bike? Damn that's what you call a good...
Did the guy in the 6D just stop in the middle of the race to pick up your bike? Damn that's what you call a good friend! lol
Yes he did!! and i wasn't going anywhere until somebody did. I was just hoping he'd go tell a spectator to come down and help me - but no he just dealt with it himself. We all take care of our own out at REM but Gary is an extraordinary human.
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mxb2 wrote:
Remap or vortex, good fuel 150 SX screenless air cage. No need to drill any holes.
I'm looking forward to learning about remapping (I'm a tinkerer) What I'm getting from you is that the SX150 cage doesn't have a screen. I was wondering about that. the oem screen doesn't look easy to remove cleanly. Thanks for the info
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captmoto wrote:
What tires did you run on the Honda? My observations of the Dunlop MX3S is that they are amazing, stick like glue. Except when the track...
What tires did you run on the Honda? My observations of the Dunlop MX3S is that they are amazing, stick like glue. Except when the track is dry. I was there on a Thursday practicing on the REM track. The track was running clockwise and was really dry. There was a right turn that drops down that crossed the start that was dry as a Baptist picnic. It was really sketchy for me until they put some water on it. All it took was a misting to get all the traction back the MX3S has to offer. I've never ridden on a tire that sensitive to moisture before and you know Glen Helen can be bipolar with slop in some corners and desert race conditions a half lap away.
Take this with a 50 lb. sack of salt from a a fat old slow guy. I'm going to try Bridgestone X30/X40 combo next.

I admire your drive. I kind of did the same thing as you, My last new bike was 04 CRF450. Injuries in 08 and excuses kept me off a new bike until I got my 17 FC450. I have shot knees, 2 bulging discs in my neck, 3 in my lower back and will likely have my ankle fused later this year. Slap tear in one shoulder and low grade rotator in the other. I was sick of feeling like shit most days and decided to go all in. I decided of I was going to ache I would have some fun along the way. I don't do much of anything else. I don't golf or play poker or do the river thing or Glamis. I gotta moto, slow and ugly as it is until I really can't anymore.
I've been using the new Dunlops with only 8-10 lbs psi using the Tubliss system on my Honda. I think that is some of the reason my KTM has been hard to get used to. I'll be switching to the new Gen2 Tubliss. I'm a believer.

Love you attitude. If I'm going to be sore I might as well have a reason. Eventually we all have to either quit when we slow down or just race slower. I'd rather be a has been than a never was

-Respect
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Favorite response so far. Thanks for putting things in perspective. I'm complaining about a new bike and a wrong shifter and you guys in Europe have...
Favorite response so far. Thanks for putting things in perspective. I'm complaining about a new bike and a wrong shifter and you guys in Europe have to deal with all that!! and I thought a tearoff ban would be a hassle. Everytime I pull into Glen Helen and look at those hills I remember how lucky I am. Our big problem is having to make time to say hi to all your friends before signup Then when I leave I can't drive away without 10 people saying goodbye. Same guys I have been racing with since I was 16, and I'm 54 now! Really sorry racing is such a hassle for you. At least you had your priorities straight when you visited the US and got in some laps at REM. It's really amazing how many visiting Euros race there every week. Speaking of such you really don't need to leave a bike here, I could introduce you to more than a few guys who would make sure you had a ride if you were to plan ahead. Thats another thing if your bike breaks between motos. Someone will make sure you race your 2nd moto - Sometimes it'll be an MXA test bike!!
I'm actually in Australia.
Yes I had a wonderful time over there and was looked after wonderfully by some amazingly kind and generous people.
Got to meet loads of the local REM racers , even got invited to join in the post moto ritual of stopping for food at the in n out burger place lol! They were a great bunch of blokes and no doubt probably all sill racing!
I was so spoiled. I got to spend an entire day cutting laps around Carlsbad raceway, got to go riding at sunrise cycle park, and that place with the enormous boulders on the side of the hill...forgot what it's called now but it had this enormous double that I was shifting up into fourth to clear on a yz125.... It was an awesome track.
When I got home to Australia, I continued to race in 2000 on the state scene and in 2001 I raced our entire national series and the thumper Nast series as well.
That year I went to a big local two day race meeting, it was actually at the track where I was a member of the club and the shop that was sponsoring me that year was the main sponsor for their big weekend.
I unloaded my three yz's, 125, 250 and 426 and headed over to sign up, which is ridiculous because you don't actually sign anything.....there is no enter on the day here...it's just to show your license and club membership and give the name of your personal flag marshal. I didn't have anybody and was scolded by the Nazi on duty for going to the races by myself and told that I would not be allowed to race until I found someone to do my flag marshal duty.
I turned around, loaded up my three bikes and effectively quit the sport.
I bought a bike again in 2005 but only rode it at my own private track that I had then...but sold it not long after since I had just lost interest in riding without racing.
Bought two yz's in 2011, did the whole race license and club membership thing again and raced at three events.
At the third event , at Cobram Victoria where the track is right next to the municipal rubbish dump, I remember sitting there waiting for my next 5 lap race and contemplating the stench of the rotting refuse next door and the swarm of flies hovering over us all ,when there was an announcement over the P.A.. The event was being stopped and all riders were to assemble before the control tower and there would be a roll call. Any rider found to be not present would be disqualified from the event and have their racing license suspended til further notice.
At this emergency riders meeting we were told that some naughty children that were camping at the track the previous night had gone across to the rubbish dump and had vandalised some equipment and we all got a big lecture about it.
As a result of the meeting and running through a roll call of about three hundred riders, most of them sub 16 year olds, we were told that the last round of racing for the day would be cut due to time constraints.
I didn't bother with waiting around for my next race, I loaded up and went home and haven't raced since.
The bikes sat in the garage UN touched for three years until I found a place to ride on a friends property and did that for a bit before losing interest and selling the bikes.
You can't make a story like that up!


The memories of the great time I had in the USA were constantly there. The knowledge of how easy, hassle free and fun that REM Saturday racing scene was compared with o,this shit at home..
Yep it seems just like yesterday but it was over 17 years ago...

Like you say, I would no doubt be able to avail myself of the hospitality of some of the locals there....makes me feel guilty as I wouldn't be able to reciprocate other than to provide accomodation at my home here which is actually in a lovely part of Victoria, but there is no moto paradise here....just all that shit I was complaining about. It's why the sport is virtually dead now.

Well ,I will keep thinking about my plan ...it really is feasible and would be incredible to have something like that to look forward to and work towards every year.
The reason I haven't bought a bike since I sold my YZ's over 3 years ago is that I'm a racer...just love mx racing like all you REM regulars. Not much point to it for me to go to the trouble and expense when there is only shit child minding service races to go to.
So this idea is the only way I'll ever get back on a bike

I wonder how my missus will respond when I tell her about this idea??

Anyway...cheers mate!

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