Aldon promoting junk

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mmcmx 2/14/2017 2:07am
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Profit is king, who cares about ethics?
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Lucifa. 2/14/2017 2:37am
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Same as you Joes buying that flash new fart cannon because it makes more HP. Sure is does but will you actually ride the bike fast enough to benefit from that extra HP?? Silly
smoothwakey 2/14/2017 3:32am
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In the other thread about the spray a whole heap of people got given it for free and said that they would write un biased reviews. I guess none of them got around to it, probably because it didn't work but they dont want to offend their "sponsor" lol.
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philG 2/14/2017 3:34am
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Aldon is in a pretty narrow field , he has 4 eggs in his basket.. next year Dungey retires.. You have Roczen and AC who have already spilt, Canard does his own thing,

How long is the KTM/Husky tie up for. ?

If they bail who else is going to pay the kind of money that costs to keep him going. The list is very short.

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smoothwakey 2/14/2017 3:44am
2/14/2017 3:44am
kkawboy14 wrote:
When will some of you guys realize that this is all a business, who's model is for everyone to make money?
hey are you ready to give your review of the 4 Arm strong spray yet?
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hasko158 2/14/2017 6:38am
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I agree, I think he promotes a lot of garbage, but when his riders go 1, 3, 4...that's all the credibility he needs
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kkawboy14 2/14/2017 7:06am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
When will some of you guys realize that this is all a business, who's model is for everyone to make money?
smoothwakey wrote:
hey are you ready to give your review of the 4 Arm strong spray yet?
I already did, my friends seemed to think it worked, they have more of a problem with it than me. I couldn't really tell if it helped but it for sure didn't hurt.
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Funyun 2/14/2017 7:32am
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RbR wrote:
I am not familiar with the ingredients of MINDFX, but someone mentioned it contains caffeine. Caffeine is universally understood to facilitate improved synaptic functioning by thinning...
I am not familiar with the ingredients of MINDFX, but someone mentioned it contains caffeine. Caffeine is universally understood to facilitate improved synaptic functioning by thinning synaptic fluids. Additionally, Caffeine is widely used (usually a single cup) by endurance athletes for performance improvement, because Caffeine tricks the body into using fat stores for energy first while saving glycogen stores for later use.
jeffro503 wrote:
On the MindFX thing.....I have used it I think 4 different times. I'm not sure how it works , but dang it , it did help...
On the MindFX thing.....I have used it I think 4 different times. I'm not sure how it works , but dang it , it did help me through some riding days. It didn't give me a lot of energy or anything....just stayed at an even level most of the day. I'm actually ordering some of it up to try again.

Side note : Doesn't caffeine restrict blood vessels? Coffee never seemed to help or hurt , just never saw a difference.
Its basically just an expensive low dose pre-workout supplement. People who work out use stuff like MindFX all the time and it helps them. It probably has the same effectiveness as a can of monster minus the part where you are drinking shit loads of sugar.
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newmann 2/14/2017 7:53am
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Dang, who cleaned up this thread and poured out the Mona Vie? I was just about to ask how much Mind FX you mixed to a shot. Top of the world!

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IWreckALot 2/14/2017 7:58am
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I mean, he's probably making dozes of dollars selling these things.
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tprice07 wrote:
Tbt - 4Arm Strong founder, @mx_therapist (Lee Ramage) working on @kenroczen94 left wrist 5 years ago. Wishing Ken well as he continues to endure surgeries and...

Thats some click bait marketing.
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Skidaddle 2/14/2017 9:01am
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I think it was Paul Perebijnos on Pulp said he tried it and got the worst Arm pump he ever had!
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HenryA 2/14/2017 9:06am
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Money over everything. But it sure makes him look silly when he's trying to promote uselesss crap for top dollar.
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kkawboy14 2/14/2017 9:48am
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Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto related.....won't go thru the skin? Thanks for the heads up!
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Skidaddle 2/14/2017 10:01am
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I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds.
However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If it works, it's illegal.
If it's legal, you need a prescription.

If it's legal without a script, and works, you can only buy it for your tyrannosaurus monkey mouse or your saber toothed fish frog.
It will also be labeled not for human use, research purposes only. Meaning your test animal is fair game.

All this homeopathic, spray ons, roll ons, all that shit = doesn't do shit.

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kzizok 2/14/2017 10:03am
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Skidaddle wrote:
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds. However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this. Here is a...
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds.
However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If it works, it's illegal.
If it's legal, you need a prescription.

If it's legal without a script, and works, you can only buy it for your tyrannosaurus monkey mouse or your saber toothed fish frog.
It will also be labeled not for human use, research purposes only. Meaning your test animal is fair game.

All this homeopathic, spray ons, roll ons, all that shit = doesn't do shit.

Nailed it.

This is amusing:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailydot.relaymedia.com/amp/irl/fish-antib…
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kkawboy14 2/14/2017 10:42am
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Skidaddle wrote:
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds. However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this. Here is a...
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds.
However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If it works, it's illegal.
If it's legal, you need a prescription.

If it's legal without a script, and works, you can only buy it for your tyrannosaurus monkey mouse or your saber toothed fish frog.
It will also be labeled not for human use, research purposes only. Meaning your test animal is fair game.

All this homeopathic, spray ons, roll ons, all that shit = doesn't do shit.

Your just wrong!

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roundtheoutside 2/14/2017 10:50am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto...
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto related.....won't go thru the skin? Thanks for the heads up!
Absorption thru the skin always works systemically, which is reasonable when it comes to hormones or drugs. But you cannot absorb something solely into your forearm because of anatomy and physiology. It is not rocket science actually.
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kkawboy14 2/14/2017 10:52am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto...
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto related.....won't go thru the skin? Thanks for the heads up!
roundtheoutside wrote:
Absorption thru the skin always works systemically, which is reasonable when it comes to hormones or drugs. But you cannot absorb something solely into your forearm...
Absorption thru the skin always works systemically, which is reasonable when it comes to hormones or drugs. But you cannot absorb something solely into your forearm because of anatomy and physiology. It is not rocket science actually.
Your just wrong!
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Funyun 2/14/2017 10:52am
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Skidaddle wrote:
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds. However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this. Here is a...
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds.
However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If it works, it's illegal.
If it's legal, you need a prescription.

If it's legal without a script, and works, you can only buy it for your tyrannosaurus monkey mouse or your saber toothed fish frog.
It will also be labeled not for human use, research purposes only. Meaning your test animal is fair game.

All this homeopathic, spray ons, roll ons, all that shit = doesn't do shit.

Its probably the same or similar to something already widely used by people and they are just putting a "gimmicky" sales pitch on it to sell to the moto crowd. Theres tons of stuff out there you can put on your skin for sore muscles and such that actually work.

Im not saying it works to the extent they advertise it but its definitely possible it could do something and that is enough to please most people pissing away money on it.
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Moto_Geek 2/14/2017 10:54am
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Simple - American Dream.. using his notoriety to market. And yeah don't buy it if it doesn't work. That's a big claim for you to make calling his stuff crap when you haven't tried it or done a fair assessment. Just saying.. I'm not a big fan of Aldon, but I am a fan of free enterprise.
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Bultaco 2/14/2017 10:58am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Your just wrong!
You're just wrong! (both times)
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kkawboy14 2/14/2017 11:01am
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Skidaddle wrote:
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds. However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this. Here is a...
I know how to make home brew transdermal compounds.
However unless you really want to stink its not possible with something like this.

Here is a good rule of thumb. If it works, it's illegal.
If it's legal, you need a prescription.

If it's legal without a script, and works, you can only buy it for your tyrannosaurus monkey mouse or your saber toothed fish frog.
It will also be labeled not for human use, research purposes only. Meaning your test animal is fair game.

All this homeopathic, spray ons, roll ons, all that shit = doesn't do shit.

Funyun wrote:
Its probably the same or similar to something already widely used by people and they are just putting a "gimmicky" sales pitch on it to sell...
Its probably the same or similar to something already widely used by people and they are just putting a "gimmicky" sales pitch on it to sell to the moto crowd. Theres tons of stuff out there you can put on your skin for sore muscles and such that actually work.

Im not saying it works to the extent they advertise it but its definitely possible it could do something and that is enough to please most people pissing away money on it.
Nailed it!
roundtheoutside 2/14/2017 11:02am
2/14/2017 11:02am
kkawboy14 wrote:
Your just wrong!
No matter how much you paid for that stuff, it's the same principle of operation like it is when you wear the golden amulet of mama shabooboo against pregnancy.Wink
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kkawboy14 2/14/2017 11:02am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Your just wrong!
Bultaco wrote:
You're just wrong! (both times)
CDC.gov all kinds of stuff goes thru the skin and can affect other areas.



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Funyun 2/14/2017 11:02am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto...
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto related.....won't go thru the skin? Thanks for the heads up!
roundtheoutside wrote:
Absorption thru the skin always works systemically, which is reasonable when it comes to hormones or drugs. But you cannot absorb something solely into your forearm...
Absorption thru the skin always works systemically, which is reasonable when it comes to hormones or drugs. But you cannot absorb something solely into your forearm because of anatomy and physiology. It is not rocket science actually.
Have you ever heard of stuff like equi-block or icy hot? There are countless things you can absorb into your skin that affect joints/muscles that arent hormones.......

Literally none of this stuff is "junk" but stuff people have already been using for awhile now with a moto sales pitch. Even that brace thing may look stupid but it probably has the same idea behind it as using a lacrosse ball which active people have been doing for years on their forearms and various other muscles.

Would I pay $160 for a glorified lacrosse ball that can only be used on your wrist? hell no but you cant really deny that these products do work to some degree as they have been used in other forms for a long time now with atleast some benefit.
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kkawboy14 2/14/2017 11:07am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto...
Testosterone works thru the skin, you can stop smoking from patchs, you can take many drugs and treatments thru the skin but I guess anything moto related.....won't go thru the skin? Thanks for the heads up!
roundtheoutside wrote:
Absorption thru the skin always works systemically, which is reasonable when it comes to hormones or drugs. But you cannot absorb something solely into your forearm...
Absorption thru the skin always works systemically, which is reasonable when it comes to hormones or drugs. But you cannot absorb something solely into your forearm because of anatomy and physiology. It is not rocket science actually.
Funyun wrote:
Have you ever heard of stuff like equi-block or icy hot? There are countless things you can absorb into your skin that affect joints/muscles that arent...
Have you ever heard of stuff like equi-block or icy hot? There are countless things you can absorb into your skin that affect joints/muscles that arent hormones.......

Literally none of this stuff is "junk" but stuff people have already been using for awhile now with a moto sales pitch. Even that brace thing may look stupid but it probably has the same idea behind it as using a lacrosse ball which active people have been doing for years on their forearms and various other muscles.

Would I pay $160 for a glorified lacrosse ball that can only be used on your wrist? hell no but you cant really deny that these products do work to some degree as they have been used in other forms for a long time now with atleast some benefit.
....they said those don't work, it's in your mind Smile
MotoTribology 2/14/2017 11:24am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
....they said those don't work, it's in your mind Smile
You mean like this?
How does Icy Hot Work?

Doesn't seem all that trans-dermal to me.

Some things can be absorbed slightly into some layers of the skin such as lotions and whatnot and some hormones because they are biologic in nature. The human body does not want things inside it that do not belong.

Isn't this spray a magnesium salt? I'm pretty sure salts cannot penetrate the skin and enter the blood or muscle layers. If it could, wouldn't anyone who entered the ocean be dead from sodium overdoses.
roundtheoutside 2/14/2017 11:26am
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Funyun wrote:
Have you ever heard of stuff like equi-block or icy hot? There are countless things you can absorb into your skin that affect joints/muscles that arent...
Have you ever heard of stuff like equi-block or icy hot? There are countless things you can absorb into your skin that affect joints/muscles that arent hormones.......

Literally none of this stuff is "junk" but stuff people have already been using for awhile now with a moto sales pitch. Even that brace thing may look stupid but it probably has the same idea behind it as using a lacrosse ball which active people have been doing for years on their forearms and various other muscles.

Would I pay $160 for a glorified lacrosse ball that can only be used on your wrist? hell no but you cant really deny that these products do work to some degree as they have been used in other forms for a long time now with atleast some benefit.
I'm only talking about that spray not the tool. Sure I heard about cremes an fluids. It used to be a part of my job actually and I did some research on it when I was in university. Some of that stuff has a thermal effect but most of that quack remedy has no verifiable effect. Just because there are countless products you can spent your money on doesn't mean they're all effective. But hey, if it works for you, even better. You just can't back it up with science. Maybe there are any alternative facts about that yet?

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