Can the AMA sak up and ditch the easy shit tracks???

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These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how boring the tracks are. When the only challenge for Bubba is raw speed, he dominates, when it gets technically challenging he wads up.

We get your point about the need for an American Hero dominating, but this is seriously rediculous now, everyone can see it.


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Motodude wrote:
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how...
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how boring the tracks are. When the only challenge for Bubba is raw speed, he dominates, when it gets technically challenging he wads up.

We get your point about the need for an American Hero dominating, but this is seriously rediculous now, everyone can see it.


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James is the most technical rider on the track, didn't you know that???


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Huh
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Motodude wrote:
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how...
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how boring the tracks are. When the only challenge for Bubba is raw speed, he dominates, when it gets technically challenging he wads up.

We get your point about the need for an American Hero dominating, but this is seriously rediculous now, everyone can see it.


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Cant Reed just go faster and beat Stewart?
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James is the most technical rider on the track, didn't you know that???


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Right on bro!

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Motodude wrote:
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how...
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how boring the tracks are. When the only challenge for Bubba is raw speed, he dominates, when it gets technically challenging he wads up.

We get your point about the need for an American Hero dominating, but this is seriously rediculous now, everyone can see it.


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Foster576 wrote:
Cant Reed just go faster and beat Stewart?
No one can beat Bubble on such simple tracks.
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Motodude wrote:
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how...
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how boring the tracks are. When the only challenge for Bubba is raw speed, he dominates, when it gets technically challenging he wads up.

We get your point about the need for an American Hero dominating, but this is seriously rediculous now, everyone can see it.


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Foster576 wrote:
Cant Reed just go faster and beat Stewart?
Motodude wrote:
No one can beat Bubble on such simple tracks.
Why not? If the tracks are simple then everyone should be going fast right? I like both Stewart and Reed. Both are amazing riders but Stewart has the upper hand right now. Easy track or not. Also didnt the AMA let other racers design tracks? So its not all on the AMA track designs. Is it David Baileys fault for designing an easy track to give Stewart the win.
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Lets see what RC does for his track design. After all, RC is in Reeds corner now.

I cant believe you are blaming the tracks now..... whats next?
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I agree with Scott bring on more whoops.
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Foster576 wrote:
Cant Reed just go faster and beat Stewart?
Motodude wrote:
No one can beat Bubble on such simple tracks.
Foster576 wrote:
Why not? If the tracks are simple then everyone should be going fast right? I like both Stewart and Reed. Both are amazing riders but Stewart...
Why not? If the tracks are simple then everyone should be going fast right? I like both Stewart and Reed. Both are amazing riders but Stewart has the upper hand right now. Easy track or not. Also didnt the AMA let other racers design tracks? So its not all on the AMA track designs. Is it David Baileys fault for designing an easy track to give Stewart the win.
Easy tracks = Stewart dominance. The final track layout is determind by the AMA despte who 'designed' it. The tracks dished up recently are piss poor for such elite competition.
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2/2/2009 2:12pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:17pm
There's nothing EASY about the SX tracks.

If that was the case , all of us that post on here would be out there racing every weekend. Smile

2/2/2009 2:14pm
Doesn't matter what they do to the track, Stewart will spank Reed. I agree though that the tracks need work.
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FastEddy wrote:
There's nothing EASY about the SX tracks. If that was the case , all of us that post on here would be out there racing every...
There's nothing EASY about the SX tracks.

If that was the case , all of us that post on here would be out there racing every weekend. Smile

So why arent you out there racing against Stoner and Rossi. Road race tracks are easy as. dik
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Motodude wrote:
Easy tracks = Stewart dominance. The final track layout is determind by the AMA despte who 'designed' it. The tracks dished up recently are piss poor...
Easy tracks = Stewart dominance. The final track layout is determind by the AMA despte who 'designed' it. The tracks dished up recently are piss poor for such elite competition.
Its alot easier to blame the track than saying one rider is riding better than another on that given day. Stewarts corner speed and whoop speed is faster than anyone out there right now. Reed is a fraction of a second behind. If the track was all straight aways and turns the outcome would be the same I think. Same if the track was nothing but whoops and turns or jumps and turns. Add them all together and he will still be that fraction faster. Like I said I like both riders so I dont want to make it seem like Im taking Stewarts side and just bagging on Reed but they all have to race the same track. The Layouts are made before the season. Each rider knows what track is coming up. Why not practice for that type of track? Reed just need to find a little bit more speed and hell be battling with Stewart the whole race and I cant wait for that to happen! I want to see both of them WFO from start to finish battling the whole way.
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Paul

you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it if it's dangerous for the riders but not the layout of the track.

Unfortunately for Reed if the tracks get tougher Stewart's gap will be bigger and then the gap from Reed back more.
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Chad is having a difficult enough time as it is. No need to make it harder on him.
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To imply that the AMA is making the tracks a certain way to give Stewart an advantage is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
Maybe last year they did the same thing to give Reed an advantage over Windham.
I've heard some good ones but this is priceless.
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Motodude wrote:
So why arent you out there racing against Stoner and Rossi. Road race tracks are easy as. dik
I think you lost your mind,Moto gp is far from easy just like sx.I think the tracks need some more whoops and some different jumps to mix it up some.All sx tracks have the same stuff week in week out and it would be nice to see some different sections.No Arenacross track is easy let alone a full blown sx track maybe you need to give it a go sometime motodude since it's easy.
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500guy wrote:
Paul you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it...
Paul

you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it if it's dangerous for the riders but not the layout of the track.

Unfortunately for Reed if the tracks get tougher Stewart's gap will be bigger and then the gap from Reed back more.
I dont think so Jay.
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Easy tracks? Have you ever ridden on a pro-level SX track? Even putting around in first gear? We used to have one at our local track, I didn't even ride around it.

People who talk about SX tracks being easy to ride never rode one. Now, SX isn't the same as MX in terms of conditioning and toughness, but it ain't easy to do.
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I love a good conspiracy theory...or not.
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I actually think some of the new sections they've included so far this year have been kind of cool, but then Im a Euro so...
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Reed is not on his "A" game, huh?
Could you please tell me what "issues" Reed is having.
Maybe their both on their "A" game, and Stewart is faster.
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bottom line is the tracks blow. easy or not isn't really the issue. it's all about layout.

A1 has been the only track built with passing in mind.

regardless of the outcome of the race, whether stewart wins or not, the tracks are not built for passing. they look like they are being built to keep everyone together. that translates to no passing spots, which translates to get a holeshot or dick around behind mike alessi for 4 laps.

houston and san francisco have been rediculous layouts with the same shitty obstacles just mismatched. both tracks have been built so the only fast way is to rail the corner and take the same rythem through every section. gay.

and for whoever said Bailey designed San-Fran, Anaheim 3 is going to be the first track to offer a custom design, and it's MC's. Bailey just did the track walk on RacerX.
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bottom line is the tracks blow. easy or not isn't really the issue. it's all about layout. A1 has been the only track built with passing...
bottom line is the tracks blow. easy or not isn't really the issue. it's all about layout.

A1 has been the only track built with passing in mind.

regardless of the outcome of the race, whether stewart wins or not, the tracks are not built for passing. they look like they are being built to keep everyone together. that translates to no passing spots, which translates to get a holeshot or dick around behind mike alessi for 4 laps.

houston and san francisco have been rediculous layouts with the same shitty obstacles just mismatched. both tracks have been built so the only fast way is to rail the corner and take the same rythem through every section. gay.

and for whoever said Bailey designed San-Fran, Anaheim 3 is going to be the first track to offer a custom design, and it's MC's. Bailey just did the track walk on RacerX.
Ah. My mistake about saying Bailey designed it. Maybe next weekend they both will get a good start and well ba able to see some good racing!
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Paul you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it...
Paul

you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it if it's dangerous for the riders but not the layout of the track.

Unfortunately for Reed if the tracks get tougher Stewart's gap will be bigger and then the gap from Reed back more.
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I dont think so Jay.
Please don't leave us in the dark here!

Who exactly at the AMA is making the decision to build Stewart friendly SX tracks? When they come up with the track layout that works to Stewarts advantage, who are they then passing this mandate on to to ensure it's built to Stewarts liking?

Oh, and what's the AMA's motivation to build tracks to Stewart's liking? Seems odd that anyone would want to give Stewart an advantage with the track design and turn the races into bigger snooze fests...wouldn't that eventually effect attendance?

Have any other conspiracy theories you've been working on?



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I think the idea that anyone is trying to build tracks that favor one rider over another is fairly misinformed.
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maybe they should build them like they did in the early 80s.. with metal scaffolding as jumps..that were pretty tall.. i think they called it "Rodan" or something like that.. im sure some of you guys know what im talking about
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GuyB wrote:
I think the idea that anyone is trying to build tracks that favor one rider over another is fairly misinformed.
HAHAHAHA...you havent been around moto for long have you Gibbo.
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dude your from Australia get off are internet and tell your theory's to a kangaroo or something......this has to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. If anything the tracks obstacles are alike because they need to be built quickly, they don't have time to go out there and mess around all day trying to get new jumps to work right

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