HONESTY&MOTOCROSS

norcal3737
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2/7/2017 3:53pm
Keep it up for the viewer pleasure, or get black-listed on the media line because you didn't cater to a top athlete's demands...


This is what's wrong with media. Filtered, biased, swayed news/interviews, is what we get.

OP, you should post the media clip.


I understand Vital's reason for removing it from a business perspective (this forum exists because of GuyB's content, images, and interviews), but it sucks to see interviews basically vanish because agents dont like what their rider said.
GuyB
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2/7/2017 4:02pm
I've yet to see a blacklist. What does one look like? Wink
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2/7/2017 4:16pm
aeffertz wrote:
So This interview still live somewhere?
right

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE MORE INFO

please dont delete this post
Ted722
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2/7/2017 4:36pm
What would you like to see different in the tracks?
The more I watch old stuff, like 90’s motocross, there’s some pretty rad tracks. It was technical and slowed down. It might not have been as safe, I guess, because stuff was steeper. The steeper stuff slows us down though, so I’d like to see more of that. More technique style tracks. Nowadays, our bikes are so fast I can come out of turn and just jump 70 or 80 feet, no problem. It’s crazy how fast everything is. At our test track, we have a quad there that we do every single lap and it’s huge. It’s really not a small jump, but we do it so easy and so effortlessly that it just needs to slow down. Stuff need to start tightening up and getting steeper. I think that’s going to separate more people too. You’re forced to rely on your skill set, rather than your power.

The Shop

thorns
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2/7/2017 4:39pm
aeffertz wrote:
So This interview still live somewhere?
google cole seely cry later
kkawboy14
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2/7/2017 4:41pm
GrapeApe wrote:
And I'm just sitting here waiting on someone to accept an offer, contemplating pizza or a nap, and I need a 20 pager to kill the...
And I'm just sitting here waiting on someone to accept an offer, contemplating pizza or a nap, and I need a 20 pager to kill the time!

You don't have to explain yourself to me, you do a great job. Not everyone is going to agree 100% of the time.
ML512 wrote:
Thank you, I appreciate that. I might be up for the unpopular person of the day award, but I'll take it. It was my decision and...
Thank you, I appreciate that. I might be up for the unpopular person of the day award, but I'll take it. It was my decision and I'll stand behind it.
Seems like your doin ok!
hillbilly
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2/7/2017 5:12pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
He was talking about privateers in 3rd person when he was talking. Not himself.
ML512 wrote:
Privateers don't have to pay for parking in the team pits and all riders get a small/limited allotment of tickets/passes.
Used to get 4 tickets per license,but still had to pay for them,$25 each in 03.

They get them free now? I doubt it.
twotwosix
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2/7/2017 5:42pm
aeffertz wrote:
So This interview still live somewhere?
crylater.us
twotwosix
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2/7/2017 5:50pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2017 5:57pm
emohteeoh wrote:
To be very clear, there was no misrepresentation. If Cole's agent doesn't feel comfortable with the comments made and would prefer it not be run through...
To be very clear, there was no misrepresentation. If Cole's agent doesn't feel comfortable with the comments made and would prefer it not be run through Vital, I suppose I can understand, but I also feel like his transparency was a breath a fresh air, and has the interest of the riders at heart. It bums me out that the credibility of the interview has come into play. At the end of the day, Cole's agent wasn't there; I have the sound byte, and just listened to it again...and it is word for word.
I enjoyed the heck out of reading that. It wasn't all scripted and boring.

That interview made me like Cole more than the story TWMX did with him going to Japan.
motogrady
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2/7/2017 5:51pm
norcal3737 wrote:
Keep it up for the viewer pleasure, or get black-listed on the media line because you didn't cater to a top athlete's demands... This is what's...
Keep it up for the viewer pleasure, or get black-listed on the media line because you didn't cater to a top athlete's demands...


This is what's wrong with media. Filtered, biased, swayed news/interviews, is what we get.

OP, you should post the media clip.


I understand Vital's reason for removing it from a business perspective (this forum exists because of GuyB's content, images, and interviews), but it sucks to see interviews basically vanish because agents dont like what their rider said.

Eh, fans here edit their stuff all the time with the luxury of hindsight.
And they, unlike the pro, have nothing to lose but face.

Ya, terrible practice,
neysbo
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2/7/2017 6:14pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
He was talking about privateers in 3rd person when he was talking. Not himself.
ML512 wrote:
Privateers don't have to pay for parking in the team pits and all riders get a small/limited allotment of tickets/passes.
hillbilly wrote:
Used to get 4 tickets per license,but still had to pay for them,$25 each in 03.

They get them free now? I doubt it.
Pretty sure they are $50 a piece now.
yak651
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2/7/2017 6:29pm
I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with him saying LL is a joke, the purse money is a joke and he would like something to be done but all the racers know their place and are afraid of being black listed...
speed_racer
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2/7/2017 6:54pm
Doesn't Vital Media has bigger fish than ML and GB?
own owns Vital

ML and GB are just the pit bulls doing the work, but someone else calls the shots and is very connected to FELD and every manufacturer from past employment?



Just saying...
motogrady
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2/7/2017 7:16pm
Doesn't Vital Media has bigger fish than ML and GB? [url=http://www.vitalmedianet.com/index.php/about/]own owns Vital[/url] ML and GB are just the pit bulls doing the work, but someone...
Doesn't Vital Media has bigger fish than ML and GB?
own owns Vital

ML and GB are just the pit bulls doing the work, but someone else calls the shots and is very connected to FELD and every manufacturer from past employment?



Just saying...
If anyone here doesn't know this place is but one of 3, owned by a guy that employs people to run them,
must have been living under a rock for the past decade.

Just sayin
kkawboy14
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2/7/2017 7:19pm
yak651 wrote:
I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with him saying LL is a joke, the purse money is a joke and he would like something...
I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with him saying LL is a joke, the purse money is a joke and he would like something to be done but all the racers know their place and are afraid of being black listed...
Those were all the things he didn't say. What he really said was "I love feld, Honda, and everything about sx"
GuyB
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2/7/2017 7:31pm
Doesn't Vital Media has bigger fish than ML and GB? [url=http://www.vitalmedianet.com/index.php/about/]own owns Vital[/url] ML and GB are just the pit bulls doing the work, but someone...
Doesn't Vital Media has bigger fish than ML and GB?
own owns Vital

ML and GB are just the pit bulls doing the work, but someone else calls the shots and is very connected to FELD and every manufacturer from past employment?



Just saying...
Shows what you know. Brad has very free reins on what we do.
jeffro503
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2/7/2017 7:53pm
hvaughn88 wrote:
It's also funny when this happens (for the record, haven't heard Cole do this) "All those people in vital are idiots. Nobody pays attention to that...
It's also funny when this happens (for the record, haven't heard Cole do this)

"All those people in vital are idiots. Nobody pays attention to that shit"

(Something about them gets posted on vital)

"Shit, get that taken down off vital."
Skidaddle wrote:
HAHA
Yeah , pretty strange how that works huh?

What if the OP / interviewer posted the entire sound clip? We could listen to it and make our own judgement.

Would that get deleted as well?
ML512
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2/7/2017 7:58pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2017 8:00pm
Doesn't Vital Media has bigger fish than ML and GB? [url=http://www.vitalmedianet.com/index.php/about/]own owns Vital[/url] ML and GB are just the pit bulls doing the work, but someone...
Doesn't Vital Media has bigger fish than ML and GB?
own owns Vital

ML and GB are just the pit bulls doing the work, but someone else calls the shots and is very connected to FELD and every manufacturer from past employment?



Just saying...
In content meetings, we typically explain to the boss man who we're talking about, what they do, and where they came from...when it comes to people for the OEMs and Feld.

So to put it bluntly, you couldn't be any farther from the truth with your little accusation here. Smile
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Moto520
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Moto520 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/07/174613/s1200_IMG_1834.jpg[/img]


Just kidding. I'm a guest here
TeamGreen
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2/7/2017 8:39pm
I'm thinking we hand out the tin-foil by page 5
jeffro503
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2/7/2017 8:44pm
So I guess I'll ask again.

If the sound clip was uploaded , would that get deleted?
bturner26x
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2/7/2017 9:08pm
reded wrote:
I think we should have one thread that never gets moderated, never deleted, just an all out, airing of grievances. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/07/174575/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
I think we should have one thread that never gets moderated, never deleted, just an all out, airing of grievances.



Laughing Laughing Laughing
kzizok
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2/7/2017 9:14pm
reded wrote:
I think we should have one thread that never gets moderated, never deleted, just an all out, airing of grievances. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/07/174575/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
I think we should have one thread that never gets moderated, never deleted, just an all out, airing of grievances.



We could call it "The Purge".
bturner26x
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2/7/2017 9:15pm
jeffro503 wrote:
So I guess I'll ask again.

If the sound clip was uploaded , would that get deleted?
I would like to hear it to. Maybe the op can post it on ThumperTalk? Anything goes there lol, that's why I deleted the app!
jeffro503
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2/7/2017 9:31pm
reded wrote:
I think we should have one thread that never gets moderated, never deleted, just an all out, airing of grievances. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/07/174575/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
I think we should have one thread that never gets moderated, never deleted, just an all out, airing of grievances.



kzizok wrote:
We could call it "The Purge".
That would be awesome actually. Get that thing to 1000 pages and just let dudes vent. I'm sure I'd be good for a full page or two. Smile
NMRed
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2/7/2017 10:09pm
emohteeoh wrote:
Apparently, a decent interview can't stay live on here. Which one of y'all is worried about your payoff?
GuyB wrote:
Not sure what you're talking about, but payoffs? When does that happen, exactly? I must have missed the memo.
With all that hush money you get one would think you'd at least be getting a new truck every year.
emohteeoh
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2/8/2017 12:33am
emohteeoh wrote:
To be very clear, there was no misrepresentation. If Cole's agent doesn't feel comfortable with the comments made and would prefer it not be run through...
To be very clear, there was no misrepresentation. If Cole's agent doesn't feel comfortable with the comments made and would prefer it not be run through Vital, I suppose I can understand, but I also feel like his transparency was a breath a fresh air, and has the interest of the riders at heart. It bums me out that the credibility of the interview has come into play. At the end of the day, Cole's agent wasn't there; I have the sound byte, and just listened to it again...and it is word for word.
twotwosix wrote:
I enjoyed the heck out of reading that. It wasn't all scripted and boring. That interview made me like Cole more than the story TWMX did...
I enjoyed the heck out of reading that. It wasn't all scripted and boring.

That interview made me like Cole more than the story TWMX did with him going to Japan.
Glad to hear that.

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